Mark of the Beast PRECONDITIONING National Lockdown /Chip Implant (666 Resistance Prayer)

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massorite

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The Church -- present on earth today -- will be absent at this time. So the above is totally incorrect. The Holy Spirit will be "taken out of the way".
That is a garbage doctrinal belief. According to 2 Thess 2:1-12
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

massorite

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What you said above is true for those who will be on the earth during that time. However, the church won't be here to have to make that choice and that because the mark will become the only way of buying and selling during the time of God's wrath, which believers are not appointed to suffer.
That is a garbage doctrinal belief.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us,
as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
The day spoken of in verse 3 is the day of Christ spoken of in verse 2. I's right here in front of your face and you still can't see it. That is how decieved you are about your own future.
 

massorite

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Reformer was believe pope is the antichrist.

That was believe 1200 day in Daniel mean 1200 years

So all pope was antichrist, antichrist is not one. To Prof that doctrine wrong jesuit make another doctrine, 1200 day was literal day so pope that time was not antichrist.

I my self believe pope is the antichrist all pope. But I believe the last pope Will be the antichrist that enforce mark of the beast.

http://www.velocity.net/~edju70/Pretrib4.htm
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Also during this period, acclaimed Jesuit apologist Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, wrote "Polemic Lectures Concerning the Disputed Points of the Christian Belief Against the Heretics of This Time." His purpose in doing so was to refute the Historic theory of figuring Daniel's 1260, 1290 and 2300 days as years, relegating these to actual days, e.g., 1260 days, etc. By doing so, the reign of Antichrist was pushed into a future time and negated Catholicism and its pope as the man of sin and his system during his time.

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The Pope being the antichrist is mostly a European belief but the true antichrist hasn't revealed yet earth.
 

Dave-L

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"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." -Revelation 13:16-17

You are adding to Revelation.

“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18–19 (KJV 1900)
 

garee

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The Pope being the antichrist is mostly a European belief but the true antichrist hasn't revealed yet earth.
Satan would have men seeking after sign even though the anti-christ has already been revealed from Genesis.

The anti-christ (another anointed teacher, Satan) His motive of operation is revealed in Genesis. (walk by sight) "You shall surely not die"

He is revealed in Mathew 16 using the corrupted flesh of Peter. Just as he used the flesh of the serpent before its legs were removed and then could not walk. Walk a term used to represent Satan had no understanding that came from God .
As one who would makes the faith of Christ the word of God without effect. So that mankind could trust the voice another (the father of lies) ..

Like many things.the father of lies or spirit of error claims to be not seen so that men can make the word of God without effect .Looking ahead to a unknown wonderment rather than taking a look at the whole council of God. Beginning in Genesis

It would seem that men would rather make it into a mystery not revealed . Rather than confirming Peter blasphemed the Son of man, Jesus and was forgiven.

Protecting Peter who was used to represent unbelieving mankind. Would be like protecting the Pope and his blasphemy which is not forgivable today .The Son of man is long gone here never to return in the flesh for another demonstration of the unseen Holy Spirit. . . using corrupted flesh and blood to show the work of two. .

One demonstration is all that was promised.
 

SpiritDove05

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Revelation 2:8-11

“And to the [a]angel of the church in Smyrna write,
‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 9 “I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a [b]synagogue of Satan. 10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. "Be faithful until death", and I will give you the crown of life.

11 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.” ’

"Be faithful until death" is implying that Christians will be killed just like 2day 4 the faith and most probly more which is b4 the rapture which are the times of sorrows.

Matthew 24:6-15

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him

Matthew 24:29-31

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 

Jackson123

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The Pope being the antichrist is mostly a European belief but the true antichrist hasn't revealed yet earth.

1 John 2

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Verse 18 say since apostle John there are many antichrist allready
The man If sin not Being reveal yet, but antichrist is there since apostle John.

I believe man of sin is the last antichrist that enforce mark of the beast
 

hornetguy

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The way I see it, the hand is physical and the forehead is physical so it seems the mark will be physical as well. No?
But, is John's revelation LITERAL? Hmmmmm
 

Absolutely

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When it's here we will know what it is but it hasn't come yet so it's still a mystery, however, the stage is being set.
It Is satanic.
It is NOT optional.
Well actually two options
1 take it
2 die

How is there anyone left to rapture post trib.

Rev 14 has the jews gathered DURING THE GT that became messianic.
So all are gathered either pre or during the gt.
No postrib rapture at all.
 

Jackson123

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It Is satanic.
It is NOT optional.
Well actually two options
1 take it
2 die

How is there anyone left to rapture post trib.

Rev 14 has the jews gathered DURING THE GT that became messianic.
So all are gathered either pre or during the gt.
No postrib rapture at all.

What verse say No post rapture?

The Lamb and the 144,000
14 Then I looked, and behold, [a]a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. 3 They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were [c]redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no [d]deceit, for they are without fault [e]before the throne of God.
 

hornetguy

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Ps 22 is not. It is prophecy.
But the events of it are, as are those of revelation.
actually, I was just yanking your chain a little. I agree with Angela... we have nothing to worry about as long as we stay rooted in Jesus. Do you really think that someone putting a mark on you, without your agreeing to submit to the Beast is going to negate Jesus' sacrifice for you? The only way the mark can harm you is if you willingly accept it, knowing that you are submitting to the Beast. What Christian would do that?
 

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If you were to research the word "mark" spoken of in Rev. 13:16&17 and Rev. 14:9&11 you will find that the word "mark is talking about "to engrave" or a mark that will be"stamped" or an"imprinted mark".
Today if you were to put into your computer "RFID TATTOO" you will find that there has been an ink created that can be programed with information and can be read by a reader of some sort and they are already using this programmable ink on cattle and have been tattooing cattle since 2007. This ink can also be an invisible ink.
They are pushing the micro chip thing because right now people are not mentally ready to receive mark as in a programmable tattoo.
Back when I did the research one example I found was a bar in Barcelona Spain that would for a price insert a micro chip into your hand or arm so that you would get status at the bar. You could walk up to the door and the door would open for you and you never had to take out your wallet because as soon as you walked through the door they would know how much money you had and who you banked with.
But a micro chip can be dug out and but into someone else so it has a flaw. A tattoo however would need to be carved off or covered over with another tattoo. But if the tattoo is programed can simply covering a RFID tattoo stop a reader from reading the covered tattoo?
And if a tattoo was put into the same spot on every human and it was against the law to remove that tattoo and carving a tattoo out of your skin would be impossible to do without leaving a scare of some sort. The we would be forced to keep the mark even if we were to change our mind. Bottom line is "Don't take the mark in the first place".
I would hope Christian sisters and brothers would know to refuse the mark. And prior to that being an ultimatum, if one is allowed to go free after refusal, that they'd have gleaned an education in how to survive off the grid. Because the prophecy says, unless one has the mark they will not be able to buy, or sell. Which would mean, survive in a system designed to exploit people under the mark.

Whatever you do, do not fall for those commercials that seek ways for you to volunteer your DNA! "Ancestry" type sites. Now there's one for those who want to diet. Find the right diet for you, just give us your DNA and...
And don't give blood! They take your DNA that way now. And have for years. People who are arrested, not convicted mind you, are now given a TB prick test. A little flat needle contraption pricks the skin when you're in intake. Awaiting to go to your cell, before the strip search. They tell you that is to check to see if you have been exposed to TB. TB is air born so everyone most likely will test positive; you know you have tested positive if your skin where they pricked you swells, itches, and turns red. Meanwhile, they have your DNA on the other end of that little needle that pricked you.


Something that is going to happen on a national level, global level, can't happen overnight. Not the way the beast rule is to enter in. It has to arrive in small stages that don't frighten people.
September 11th, for America, was the staging ground for the beast rule, in my view. Codoliza Rice at least for her part let the people know and maybe due to her conscience compelling her, that our government knew well before hand that the attack was coming.
And how it happened not only makes no sense, but also makes no logical sense in matters of the plane that circled the Capitol three times before flying into the Pentagon.

However, look what happened after. Our America changed forever.
Part of that was your freedom to cash a check at the bank the check is drawn on. Oh, precautions in the name of "anti-terror". When government was involved in letting the terror happen on that day, we need pay attention. You don't have an account at the bank the check is drawn on, give us your thumb print, and a form of ID.

Now, as a non-criminal, you have a fingerprint record that stands forever.
We all know that travel by air has always been under government control. But now? If you want to board a plane you have to be screened, even violated with a pat down, and you can't bring more than 4ozs on the plane. When 2 ozs of Nitro is enough to do damage?
Controls.

Then shortly after 9-11? Great date by the way. 911, the national emergency phone number. Shortly after 9-11 car manufacturers started to produce cars that track your travel and control the vehicle's operation.
We're paying for our own surveillance. Home security camera's! Even doorbells! If they can watch the bad guy on your behalf, they can be made to watch you! Just ask Samsung! And their "Smart TV".

Now people are very use to using debit cards instead of cash. And what made that happen? All that fear broadcast over the news as to how it can be dangerous to carry cash. While if a thief doesn't have your PIN number they can't use the ATM on your account. No, but in most cases, they can use your debit card as a credit card. That's why our debit card has , "SEE ID!" , on the signature line on the back.

And that debit card isn't fool proof. A man was robbed for his debit card. He was beaten until he gave the thugs his PIN number. He lied! They realized that, came back, beat him near to death, then took him into a remote area and burned him alive.

And amazingly enough, there's a market for smart houses! Lord how dumb can someone be to say to themselves, oh heck yes, I want to get a 30 year mortgage to buy one of those!

The beast in my view has always been here. It may have been in infant stages in the beginning, but now it's reaching puberty and it wants to claim what it thinks is rightfully its own.

Be prepared!
Learn to survive off the grid. If you have a well for water, learn how to draw water without the electric water pump. Grow a garden! Not just outside, but inside your home. Grow lights are great,though don't be surprised if you go overboard and Big Brother's choppers do a fly over and then DEA come knocking. Because those grow lights are scanned for by DEA , local and federal, helicopters in order to find illegal , not the licensed one's out there now, growers.
Because those state licensed growers and sellers are violating federal law. And all that they have can be seized the moment the fed decides to act.

Grow herbs, and learn how to heal yourself from God's blooming bounty.
Learn how to make your own clothes. There are remakes of antique peddle sewing machines out there now. "Honey, what would you love for Christmas this year? " One of those.
Learn how to make your own candles. Don't think oil, or kerosene is always going to be available. And when you make them use bees wax, NOT Paraffin. Paraffin is a petroleum byproduct and is highly toxic.Think home air pollution. Not at all recommended in homes with newborns, pets, or asthma patients.

Learn how to can food. And dry food. Don't just depend on a food dehydrator.
And really important? Have an underground shelter on your property. Make sure the blue print isn't registered with the state. Because when it is, authorities who come looking if it comes time, just follow the map.

Also, see to it that you get your deed out of custody of the state. (homeowners). Homebuyers, don't register your deed with the state. Your realtor will tell you they'll take care of all that filing for you. NO! Tell them you'll take care of it personally.
When your home isn't registered with the state, it is then that it is truly private property!

And make sure you have guns. Knives, sling shots, the kind sold for hunting, and bow and arrows. And learn how to use them proficiently.
Don't fall for the anti-gun propaganda! Your tax dollars fund your government that is armed to the teeth! They have weapons in their arsenal, state and federal, that can cook you where you stand from the inside out. Picture a ball park frank in your microwave.
They have sound weapons that can scramble your brain so you don't think straight. And they also have the ability to surround your home and use what you might see as an X-ray beam, so as to see where everyone in the house is due to infrared heat imaging.

And in light of just those weapons we know about, there's a propaganda bunch out there that says, oh no, guns are wrong! Don't have those in the home! Someone could get hurt!

Stand for your rights on your two feet! Or serve the beast on your knees. Learn how to fight also. Hand to hand, basic martial arts. Your body as a weapon is the best thing to have when you can't get to something else to defend yourself with. Steel toed sneakers are a beautiful thing. I have a pair for work. One snap kick between the legs of man or woman aggressor and they think twice before coming at you again.
One swift palm upward thrust under their nose, and you drive the bone that is in the nasal cavity into the brain. That stops the evil in its tracks.

If you believe God gave us free will, free choice.....one day likely in our lifetime, if we're not very old, we may just be asked to make one. Meanwhile, be prepared to survive in the event you have to do that first. Survive! Without running water, electric lights, gasoline, right of travel, or sewer.

And one last thing. Get a ham radio! Learn how to use it. And don't get a FCC license.
In this world of technology we know what we're told!

Cut off communication that is government run and what do you have, when the electricity is also cut? Fascist terrorism in the silence of the dark.

And be prepared also to either fight for your rights to the death. Or die, watching evil take them from you without a fight. In the beginning God created us to be cowards.....Not hardly!
And be aware too, because this has happened, the staunch anti-gun nuts , if it all goes south, from among their number will have those who will try to come to the house of those they know who have guns, and take them so as to fight for their own life.
 

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I should have added. How to avoid that, the sampling of your DNA, which happens in jails now too, and prisons, and having your DNA drawn from your blood? Refuse! And tell them you're a Jehovah Witness. You don't have to prove that. All you have to do is invoke as one. And it isn't actually a lie if you think about it. We are a witness of the kingdom of God, Jehovah. When you don't have to prove you're a JW by law, at least as long as the 1st amendment will be allowed to stand, that means you don't have to actually affiliate with the denomination.
 

Ahwatukee

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Your shifting from pre tribulation to post tribulation,,,
Well, I definitely don't and never have believed that the Lord is going to put His bride through His wrath. So, what made you think that I was shifting to post-trib?
 

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Oh, the Mark of the Beast haven't heard this before 😬🙄 I dont think it's a chip or tattoo both can be removed if need be (it would hurt but it would be gone) do we need more anxiety with everything going ? It ends the same way everytime "Will know it when happens so it's not here yet"
It may be an actual physical mark or implant but accepting it will have lasting spiritual implications that cannot be removed.
 

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I should have added. How to avoid that, the sampling of your DNA, which happens in jails now too, and prisons, and having your DNA drawn from your blood? Refuse! And tell them you're a Jehovah Witness. You don't have to prove that. All you have to do is invoke as one. And it isn't actually a lie if you think about it. We are a witness of the kingdom of God, Jehovah. When you don't have to prove you're a JW by law, at least as long as the 1st amendment will be allowed to stand, that means you don't have to actually affiliate with the denomination.
When it hits the fan there the Constitution of the United States will no longer be in effect.
 

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Well, I definitely don't and never have believed that the Lord is going to put His bride through His wrath. So, what made you think that I was shifting to post-trib?
A one world government, or a global police state, may not be the tribulation as we know it in scripture. Therefore, it is very likely we'll be here. We won't be here for the big T Tribulation however.

I feel sorrow for those who shall. :(
 

Ahwatukee

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First of all, believers in Christ will not be here when the mark becomes the only way of buying and selling. Regardless of the current controversies, the Lord is going to appear and gather His church prior to the first seal being opened. He is not going to leave His bride on the earth to be exposed to God's wrath which is when the mark of the beast will become manditory. Regardless of what the mark ends up being, from the scripture we can know that it will be in/on the right hand or forehead. The scripture also tells us that without the mark no one would be able to buy or sell.

When the Lord first called me, I was immediately drawn to end-time event and therefore the book of Revelation and all related scriptures. When the first ATM's came out I knew that this was related to the coming mark. Then came the Universal Product Code (UPC), followed by the Point of Sale system (POS), which allows people to swipe their credit and debit cards to make electronic purchases (buying and selling). This is in fact why we have been seeing the phasing out of cash and checks to make way for electronic crediting and debiting. Sweden and her sister countries are ahead of the rest of the world in that, they are already pretty much a cashless society.

As of 2015 we saw the first glimpse of the technology for the actual mark, which was a RFID chip implanted under the skin between the thumb and index finger. I believe that this will continue to evolve into something more applicable. What will remain consistent is that it will be some type of technology that will go on the hand or the forehead. People say that its not going to be a chip or anything on or in the skin. But the fact is that we already have that technology matching what the scripture literally says regarding the mark. From what I can tell, the mark will continue to evolve with that antichrist eventually being revealed with the mark technology already in place and will become the only way of buying and selling in the middle of the seven year period, which is the same time that he will cause Israel's sacrifices and offerings to cease and the setting up of the abomination in the future temple which is when he proclaims himself to be God.

The mark will be the only way of buying and selling because all of the other methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete, ergo, anyone who does not have the mark will not be able to have electronic access to perform crediting and debiting to their bank accounts. This is how the false prophet is going to "force" both great and small, rich and poor, free and slave" to receive the mark, which will be a form of worship to the first beast.

There was a video of a magazine editor from Buzzfeed, who had the RFID chip implanted and lived for a month making purchases with just the swipe of his hand. I was going to post it here, but it seems to have been removed.

To SpoonJuly:

It is easy to give a thumbs down without backing it up without any scripture. Everything that I posted above is the truth. I've been watching the evolution of the mark technology for many years and it has been moving right along. As time goes on, you will continue to see the continuation of the world relying on electronic crediting and debiting and more and more people receiving the chip implant or something comparable. This technology will continue to evolve, where at one point the church will be removed and that antichrist will be revealed. During that first 3 1/2 years, electronic crediting and debiting will be the norm with the mark becoming the only way for anyone to perform crediting and debiting on bank accounts, which is buying and selling.

It always amazes me when people reject this truth of what is currently happening, especially when the technology is exactly what scripture describes.