Matthew 25:42 and how you vote

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Jackson123

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Money that is being used here in America to take the burden off of students. It's not being given to corporations, the rich or other countries. Students can now get on with their lives instead of being crushed by debts. This country would be better off if we did have a year of Jubilee.
Money system is the real problem
jesuit behind federal reserve print money from thin air loan it to government and tax payer pay the interest

listen the video from ex world bank senior legal council, Karen Hudes

she follow the money, found 60% us federal tax go to Vatican
Google who own federal reserve by Eric Jon Phelps, he tell you how Jesuit own and robed American
 

Jackson123

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Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Taylor condemns the system of banking as “a blot” on the constitution, as corrupt, and that long-term government debt was “swindling” future generations (1816)

jesuit was night temples a banker and corrupt undercover theift
thomas Jefferson was president, he not say without fact
 

Jackson123

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Thomas Jefferson warned american

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
 

Cameron143

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Money that is being used here in America to take the burden off of students. It's not being given to corporations, the rich or other countries. Students can now get on with their lives instead of being crushed by debts. This country would be better off if we did have a year of Jubilee.
The principle of Jubilee is awesome. The principle of giving money to one group and adding to the national debt so that taxpayers who are as yet unborn are burdened by their debt is immoral. Especially since these people are college graduates, who typically aren't in poverty. They are simply irresponsible.
I'm not sure you realize how an economy works. By printing large amounts of money you hurt everyone in the economy---particularly the poor who are least able to bear the burden of inflation. The party you promote has brought us record prices in many areas and decreased Americans net worth down by trillions. Do you really believe they are helping anyone but themselves?
One last question: is it more humane to care for people from cradle to grave ensuring a lifetime of poverty and an attitude of helplessness or teaching people to grow into the potential God has given them and giving them a hope and a future? Which choice is actually the moral one?
 
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Sodom and Gomorrah were not in ancient Israel and GOD punished them.
oy vey :rolleyes:

Israel did not even exist at the time of Sodom and Gomorrah

you are hilarious in a sad kind of way
 

JohnB

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The principle of Jubilee is awesome. The principle of giving money to one group and adding to the national debt so that taxpayers who are as yet unborn are burdened by their debt is immoral. Especially since these people are college graduates, who typically aren't in poverty. They are simply irresponsible.
I'm not sure you realize how an economy works. By printing large amounts of money you hurt everyone in the economy---particularly the poor who are least able to bear the burden of inflation. The party you promote has brought us record prices in many areas and decreased Americans net worth down by trillions. Do you really believe they are helping anyone but themselves?
One last question: is it more humane to care for people from cradle to grave ensuring a lifetime of poverty and an attitude of helplessness or teaching people to grow into the potential God has given them and giving them a hope and a future? Which choice is actually the moral one?
The National debt is meaningless, it will never get paid off. It's all just accounting and every country is doing it.
 

Cameron143

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The National debt is meaningless, it will never get paid off. It's all just accounting and every country is doing it.
Your answer actually confirms the argument that I put forward. You do not understand economics. If it doesn't matter why not give everyone a home and a car or two. Throw in a boat and anything else one might desire.
If it doesn't matter you are sinfully asking too little for the poor.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Yet we give away BILLIONS to other countries, the rich and corporations and never ask them to pay it back. But now some politicians want to take away benefits for the poor to pay back those billions.
do you watch alot of cnn ? MSNBC?
 

Pilgrimshope

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The National debt is meaningless, it will never get paid off. It's all just accounting and every country is doing it.
that’s what leads to economic depression. We should have programs for those that can’t work to help with food and housing but We have to promote work first to anyone who can work

there’s a difference In a person that refuses to work and has some real reason they can’t work. We should embrace the ones who aren’t able to work and support themselves and those who are able but won’t they shouldn’t get any benefits at all
 

Pilgrimshope

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No! Really. I thought they might be robots or something.
yeah I was wondering if you did , it seemed like your point was the government aren’t the people. I was just saying yeah we actually vote and elect them from among the people

the issue is money we only get a couple terrible options because you have to raise millions to get elected so rich people mainly have a grip on politics and whoever they basically decide , is who gets promoted as great people who are “ for you yes you just Give em your vote “ then next election they come back explaining in for you I’ll get it done now gimme your vote “

we seriously need political reforms in USA
 
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and yet GOD still punished them. What don't you get?
you do not 'get' the gospel and seem to think we are all under the wrath of God

how do you sleep at night?

you talk about two cities and Israel that did not exist in time together and jumble up explicit and straightforward biblical passages and then try to say God punishes everyone because they do not give to the poor

God hates sin period. He destroyed the world once by flood because of it. Over your head I guess

there is nothing in scripture to substantiate your campaign for why everyone but you has what they want

there seems to be no end to your misapplication of the Bible...you do not have reasons...just excuses
 

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So I take it my earlier post is being ignored by the OP... I guess we can't have a real discussion about whether or not the Bible would actually promote what we are speaking about right now in real life.
 

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you do not 'get' the gospel and seem to think we are all under the wrath of God

how do you sleep at night?

you talk about two cities and Israel that did not exist in time together and jumble up explicit and straightforward biblical passages and then try to say God punishes everyone because they do not give to the poor

God hates sin period. He destroyed the world once by flood because of it. Over your head I guess

there is nothing in scripture to substantiate your campaign for why everyone but you has what they want

there seems to be no end to your misapplication of the Bible...you do not have reasons...just excuses
Who said anything about everyone being under GOD's wrath? Sodom and Gomorrah were for a reason, You don't seem to understand that.
 

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So I take it my earlier post is being ignored by the OP... I guess we can't have a real discussion about whether or not the Bible would actually promote what we are speaking about right now in real life.
I had the same issue with the OP... just ignored my thoughts for his own reasons. So I quit engaging.

I am entertained though with everyone else's attempts to have discourse... vain as it may be. :giggle:
 

JohnB

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Who said anything about everyone being under GOD's wrath? Sodom and Gomorrah were for a reason, You don't seem to understand that.
Have you read the story of the rich man and Lazareth? why is the rich man in hell?
 

Pilgrimshope

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So I take it my earlier post is being ignored by the OP... I guess we can't have a real discussion about whether or not the Bible would actually promote what we are speaking about right now in real life.
yes if everyone knew and obeyed the Bible and it’s principle lessons , we’d have a perfect world without sin or death ,war and famine but the world is in opposition to Gods rule , man is trying to be the ruler because of this

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:26‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's:

But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and then we can’t accept this is now true when God became “the son of man “ in Christ Jesus

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭

the worlds government doesnt want that to give the rule to Christ , they want to rule the earth mans Will wants the dominion rather than submitting to Christ

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:36‬ ‭

it’s why the governments make laws contradicting the Bible( gay marriage , transgender , racial politics going against the New Testament rule of all men created equal in gods image ) whether male or female Jew or gentile by flesh. But by faith in Christ ealone we become his children

Mans Inherant need to rebel and decide for themselves what is good and evil is where governments have evolved from since the Tower of Babel man has been trying to be their own god invent and control thier own gods, to reach their place in the heavens by thier own design rether than Gods design in Christ Jesus
Through him king ourselves before him and being subject by our own Will to his name and word the world doesn’t want any such thing it’s why it will fall

If God ruled the governments there would be one ruler and all would become subject to him, this infact will come when Jesus returns it’s the promise of David’s seed , but until then there’s a lot of corruption ruling the world that is opposed to the gospel and those who believe it and share it

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭