Besides the fact that you have totally missed the true essence of repentance, and in fact changed it to something it is not, you also twisted what I said in my previous post.
I said that the New Testament was written by good Jewish boys. Who knew their history, their Old Testament and their Hebrew. (Luke brings a slightly different perspective to the Bible.)
So if a Jewish man knew what nacham and Shuub meant, and where and how it was used in the Old Testament, and also knew the translation to metanoia in the LXX and then how repentance was used in the NT, do you really think it became a new word, with a totally different meaning? Or was it still based on the revelation of true repentance from sin in the OT?
The Bible starts with sin in Genesis 3. It is there that the Saviour who will bruise the serpent's head is first prophesied. The Old Testament records the failure of Israel to stop sinning. Their failure to repent from their evil and wicked ways. Their failure to turn back to God. And when people did repent, it was with fasting and prayer and weeping and sack cloth and ashes.
Why? Because God, being loving, is also holy! And his holiness demands perfection and turning away from sin. That is the whole point of Jesus Christ - that he came to save us from our sins. And we have to repent of those sins. And saying that repentance is "changing your mind" is not in any way, shape or form acknowledging that what we are saved from is sin. That repentance is so much more than "changing your mind." And "changing your mind" does not acknowledge that repentance is turning TO God!
Stop telling me I do not understand hypergrace repentance, when you keep typing it over and over! I do understand hypergrace - it is a bloodless gospel and it is a gospel that exalts humans rather than God.
I see no mention of turning from sin and evil to God in your shallow and wrong interpretation of the meaning of repentance. As I said before, Bauer and other Lexicons are quite clear that repentance is turning from sin and to God. Regardless of the apparent meaning of the two words in the Greek, which do not amount to the richness and depth that the word repentance or metanoia really mean.
I gave you countless verses in the NT and then in the OT trying to get you to lose these New Age hypergrace blinders and see the truth of what the Bible teaches. I have read your posts over and over - they are the same copy and pastes, and the same links to the same nonsense you wrote earlier.
Actually in the old days, people in the revivals in the US and Britain (18th and 19th centuries) used to come before the altar or the "mercy seat" and pray and cry and weep under the conviction of the Holy Spirit. And they stayed saved! Because they really dug deep and came to grips with their sins, and found forgiveness for those sins. Those were called the First and Second Great Awakenings. This was no casual changing their minds, only to change them later on! It was repentance thrashed out on the altar before God, convicted by the Holy Spirit. Your definition of repentance is an insult to God and it shows a total lack of understanding of the entire Christian faith!
Grace is what calls us to repent! And grace saves "a wretch like me!" What do you think that means? That John Newton, the former slave trader changed his mind about selling slaves? Or that God had him on his hands and knees for the rest of his life, leading him to understand the full biblical doctrine of repentance? And that Newton could write a song like Amazing Grace, who knew the bottom of sin and despair, and yet could rejoice in the grace of God.
And by the way, Amazing Grace is my theme song. It was a song I sang in bars before I was saved, because I got rave reviews with it. Except for those people who cried and wept when I sang it, and sometimes ran out the door. Because God can use a donkey and he used me. And then he showed me the truth of that song, and I repented of my sin! And repentance was intense! It was not a shallow "changing my mind!" And God saved me in spite of my wickedness and sin!
John Wesley, an Arminian, and George Whitfield, a Calvinist, preached to those revivals and Jonathan Edwards sermon -"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" became a classic inspiring thousands to repent and turn to Christ. It is said that Edwards read his sermon in a monotone, but so powerful was the conviction of God, that people interrupted the sermon many times moaning and crying out,"What must we do to be saved?" That is true conviction and repentance!!
He sure did not preach that people needed to change their minds! He preached repentance from sin and hell.
Here is a link to this amazing sermon.
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1053&context=etas
The Second Great Awakening happened at the beginning of the 19th centurion the US. These were not mere revivals, inspiring church people to serve God better. They were convicting awakenings that spread throughout the frontiers in the US. And while there was some emotionalism, certainly the amount of people saved in these awakenings show that true repentance from sin is never just merely "changing the mind." It is about deep, searching of the heart, confession of sin, and turning to God.
The Welsh revival was another amazing example of what turning from sin truly means. It happened at the beginning of the 20th century from 1904- 1905 and the churches were filled with people. The revival spread to the rest of Britain, Scandinavia, parts of Europe, North American and the mission fields of India and the Orient.
So deep was the revival in Wales, and so amazing the repentance from sin, that judges wore white gloves, because there was no one to try for crimes (Hint: the people repented of their sin!) Horse in the coal mines refused to work. They had been driven by curses, and the coal miners refused to curse and the horses didn't understand the new commands. Over 100,000 people were saved in Wales alone.
So please do not give me any more of this limited and wrong use of repentance. I'm very tired of your false definitions, and your lack of understanding of the Bible, and the history of the church with regards to what true repentance means.
Do NOT tell me you know more than me about Greek, and quote some sources out of context. And my suggestion is that instead of watching and reading Joseph Princes' ear tickling preaching, you need to sit down and read your Bible, and find out what the bible is actually about.
Jesus Christ, the perfect sacrifice for sin, who came to save his people from their sins. Not some tawdry repeated nonsense about what repentance means in the Greek, when you don't have a clue what the Greek really says!
Amazing grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see!
No more saying I do not understand you, Grace777! And that I do not understand hyper grace and your new phrase "hyper repentance." I am appalled with these false doctrines which you are preaching. I just hope and pray my words from the Bible and church history will make others investigate the true meaning of repentance and apply it to their lives.
