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eternally-gratefull

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When was Adam created, approximately?

I was not there, would not know

What are the oldest fossils, and how far back do they go?
Most fossils are about the same age (if we do not look at it from a faulty science view) and would be dated to the flood

When was the global flood, approximately?
Again, I was not there, so can't give a date.

Why are you worried about dates? there are far more important criteria to look at then just dates. If thats all you have, your in trouble trying to prove things.
 
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From text books, and books written by scientists of every belief system (compare and contrast)

How do you know they were that age? Where you there? Whats your proof?
What text books? Can you give names and authors?

What scientists? What are their names?

How do you know there was a global flood?

Were you there?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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What text books? Can you give names and authors?

What scientists? What are their names?

How do you know there was a global flood?

Were you there?
it seems you would rather argue about little things, is there a reason? Why do you not want to discuss scientific things? It seems you do not have much background yourself. or you would ask more pertinant questions.

why a flood?because all the earths geology as a whole can be explained by a flood. Fossil record. mountains, tectonic movement, sedementaty layers, frozen mammoths, Canyon formation, plateaus around mountain regions, etc etc. which can not be readily seen from a OEC perspective without to many unanswered questions, to many "expected occurances" which can not be found, and to many loopholes.

I thought you understood science?
 

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Professor G.G. Simpson
Prof. Ernst Mayr
Sir Julian Huxley
Dr. George Wald
jackH, would you say these guys are able to have correct scientific views? They are evolutionists, and I am going to share some of their quotes if you agree that they can hold scientific opinions.....
 
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it seems you would rather argue about little things, is there a reason? Why do you not want to discuss scientific things? It seems you do not have much background yourself. or you would ask more pertinant questions.

why a flood?because all the earths geology as a whole can be explained by a flood. Fossil record. mountains, tectonic movement, sedementaty layers, frozen mammoths, Canyon formation, plateaus around mountain regions, etc etc. which can not be readily seen from a OEC perspective without to many unanswered questions, to many "expected occurances" which can not be found, and to many loopholes.

I thought you understood science?
You being a scientist (cough), no doubt you are familiar with the Hell Creek Formation.

How do you explain all the dinosaur fossils there? In terms of how old they are and how they got there?

To be more specific, fossils of many different dinosaur genus/species have been discovered there. All have been dated at more than 65 million years and many are dated at millions of years apart.

Are you saying that they all arrived there in Montana, Dakotas, and Wyoming at the same time? Due to a global flood?

What date do you think all those dinosaur fossils landed there?

A date, give or take a few million years, is good enough.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You being a scientist (cough), no doubt you are familiar with the Hell Creek Formation.

How do you explain all the dinosaur fossils there? In terms of how old they are and how they got there?

To be more specific, fossils of many different dinosaur genus/species have been discovered there. All have been dated at more than 65 million years and many are dated at millions of years apart.

Are you saying that they all arrived there in Montana, Dakotas, and Wyoming at the same time? Due to a global flood?

What date do you think all those dinosaur fossils landed there?

A date, give or take a few million years, is good enough.
see, you do not want to discuss anything, you want to bring assumptions into the discussion.

How do you know how old they are? (by what process) and can you explain why in one animal (a frozen mammoth) the legs appear to be older than the head by the order of thousands of years? How can you explain that.

Also. can you tell me how many fossils would form? Do you even know HOW a fossil forms? it was not because these animals died and thousands of years of sediment landed on them. for by that time, the flesh would have been eaten, decomposed, or (if we look at bones) disintegrated by erosion, wear and tear.

sorry bud, but a fossil can only be formed if an animal dies, and sediment immediately covers its body, before it has time to decompose, be eaten or erode. Which can ONLY be explained by water moving at high speed over the animal dragging sediment over it, and sediment encircling and enclosing it, this sediment Harding in the shape of what is inside it.

If a dead horse is laid out in some field you will not find a fossil of it a million years from now.

ps. I never claimed to be a scientist, however, we can see from your type of responses, you are no more a scientist than I am.

 
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see, you do not want to discuss anything, you want to bring assumptions into the discussion.

How do you know how old they are? (by what process) and can you explain why in one animal (a frozen mammoth) the legs appear to be older than the head by the order of thousands of years? How can you explain that.

Also. can you tell me how many fossils would form? Do you even know HOW a fossil forms? it was not because these animals died and thousands of years of sediment landed on them. for by that time, the flesh would have been eaten, decomposed, or (if we look at bones) disintegrated by erosion, wear and tear.

sorry bud, but a fossil can only be formed if an animal dies, and sediment immediately covers its body, before it has time to decompose, be eaten or erode. Which can ONLY be explained by water moving at high speed over the animal dragging sediment over it, and sediment encircling and enclosing it, this sediment Harding in the shape of what is inside it.

If a dead horse is laid out in some field you will not find a fossil of it a million years from now.

ps. I never claimed to be a scientist, however, we can see from your type of responses, you are no more a scientist than I am.

Well I think that the God who created everything from nothing, could also have created everything to appear any way he wanted it to. Is a fossil a million years old, or was it recently created from nothing to appear to be that way?
Personally I still think it's Day 6. I mean, if the work in man is finished, why did Jesus say he came to finish God's work? To say God is through working on humanity denies the message of the Cross. Man is not holy, God is. We have to be transformed into that likeness, so the work in man is not complete. If it were none of us would have to be MADE HOLY through his sacrifice and put on the new self, created to be like Christ, who is the true image of God.
 

kodiak

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Professor G.G. Simpson
Prof. Ernst Mayr
Sir Julian Huxley
Dr. George Wald
jackH, would you say these guys are able to have correct scientific views? They are evolutionists, and I am going to share some of their quotes if you agree that they can hold scientific opinions.....

Dr. George Wald what I have quoted below..... In other words, he said that he believes something that is proven impossible has happened even though he cannot prove it....
One has only to contemplate the magnitude of this task to concede that the spontaneous generation of a living organism is impossible. Yet here we are- as a result, I believe, of spontaneous generation.
Are you saying everyone should believe that something evolutionists say is impossible actually caused all of this?
Sounds like it takes more faith to believe in evolution, than it does to believe God and the Bible.....
 
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Dr. George Wald what I have quoted below..... In other words, he said that he believes something that is proven impossible has happened even though he cannot prove it....


Are you saying everyone should believe that something evolutionists say is impossible actually caused all of this?
Sounds like it takes more faith to believe in evolution, than it does to believe God and the Bible.....
It does because they are saying that everything just happened. IOW,all the discipline of the solarsytem just happened. Discipline came from random explosions.

We know this is true from Iraq where every single explosion produced more buildings and humvees.

Insanity,Godless insanity
 
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Dr. George Wald what I have quoted below..... In other words, he said that he believes something that is proven impossible has happened even though he cannot prove it....


Are you saying everyone should believe that something evolutionists say is impossible actually caused all of this?
Sounds like it takes more faith to believe in evolution, than it does to believe God and the Bible.....
Your Wald quote was:

"One has only to contemplate the magnitude of this task to concede that the spontaneous generation of a living organism is impossible. Yet here we are- as a result, I believe, of spontaneous generation."

I hope you didn't get that from BrainyQuote or some such place.

Where is that quote from, specifically?

I'm looking for a link to the quotation in an article he wrote or some such thing.
 

kodiak

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Your Wald quote was:

"One has only to contemplate the magnitude of this task to concede that the spontaneous generation of a living organism is impossible. Yet here we are- as a result, I believe, of spontaneous generation."

I hope you didn't get that from BrainyQuote or some such place.

Where is that quote from, specifically?

I'm looking for a link to the quotation in an article he wrote or some such thing.
It was in The Scientific American...A science magazine.
 
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What issue?

Do you have a link to the article you got it from?
"There are only two possibilities as to how life arose. One is spontaneous generation arising to evolution; the other is a supernatural creative act of God. There is no third possibility. Spontaneous generation, that life arose from non-living matter was scientifically disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That leaves us with the only possible conclusion that life arose as a supernatural creative act of God. I will not accept that philosophically because I do not want to believe in God. Therefore, I choose to believe in that which I know is scientifically impossible; spontaneous generation arising to evolution."
Wald, George, "Innovation and Biology," Scientific American, Vol. 199, Sept. 1958, p. 100
 
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no million of years - in an expanding/stretched out Universe million of years ago the sun would have been bigger, hotter and nearer the earth = scalding steam and dust and ashes = no life or evolution possible - any comments - wincam

the humans exist maximum 10 thousand years and the universe maximum 50 thousand years!

im preaching for months that the sun and the planet earth must have been placed by God.

because if the sun would be only one mile closer to planet earth then the earth would burn out!

and about charles darwin: this satanic guy is screaming ouch ouch ouch every second in hell
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Wrong.

Have you ever seen a dinosaur footprint fossil?
lol. You want to make your case even harder. How did that fossil occur and not be washed away? Again, We need water to immediately fill the footprint with sediment, and that sediment to harden.
and funny how you cut off the rest of my post. why did you not answer it?
 
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lol. You want to make your case even harder. How did that fossil occur and not be washed away? Again, We need water to immediately fill the footprint with sediment, and that sediment to harden.
and funny how you cut off the rest of my post. why did you not answer it?
I like to focus on one specific issue at a time. I'll get to the rest of it.

Are you saying we don't have fossil footprints of dinosaurs?