Ministry Of Deliverance
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I prefer deliverance to the word exorcism. Lord Jesus declared His ministry in Luke 4:18. I've never met anyone who does not suffer from some demonic bondage. "The whole world is under the control of the evil one. I was born with demonic oppression, including the occult. I did not know about this, or the spirit of rejection, until after I was saved.
Demons are like parasites that attach to the soul. They adapt to the personality of the person and amplify it. So a naturally introverted person may become a total recluse, the pessimist become totally negative, the more outgoing narcissistic and so on. Christians may be afflicted with lying and deceptive spirits. Many false doctrines are a direct result of "doctrines of demons".
Everyone is responsible before God for their spiritual state. "The devil made me do it" is not Biblical. However, we also need to know that there is a war on, that Satan is the enemy and demons are his minions.
Lord Jesus healed and delivered everyone who came to Him. You say that they were not believers. I don't agree. Since they came to Jesus, they had faith in Him. If that is not a believer, what is?
Deliverance ministry can be fraught with problems. It's usually the result of Christians not being sure of their authority and power. Just singing "Jesus breaks every fetter" does not move a demon. It must be commanded to leave. If the person is not willing to be set free, it becomes even more of a mess.
An example of someone who ministered deliverance effectively is Derek Prince. I was blessed to be mentored by someone who knew their authority in Christ also. He was not well known, but I was blessed greatly and delivered from several demons.
It helps to know that there are degrees of bondage to evil spirits and demons. We can be oppressed, leading to obsessed, and, in rare cases, possessed.
Perhaps being bound by the occult made me more able to accept the reality of demons. I don't know. I do know the relief and freedom that deliverance brings. It's also important that people know how to keep them out.
It's a big subject. It's unfortunate that much of the church avoids it these days. People could and should be set free, but are left to struggle under an unnecessary burden.
Demons are like parasites that attach to the soul. They adapt to the personality of the person and amplify it. So a naturally introverted person may become a total recluse, the pessimist become totally negative, the more outgoing narcissistic and so on. Christians may be afflicted with lying and deceptive spirits. Many false doctrines are a direct result of "doctrines of demons".
Everyone is responsible before God for their spiritual state. "The devil made me do it" is not Biblical. However, we also need to know that there is a war on, that Satan is the enemy and demons are his minions.
Lord Jesus healed and delivered everyone who came to Him. You say that they were not believers. I don't agree. Since they came to Jesus, they had faith in Him. If that is not a believer, what is?
Deliverance ministry can be fraught with problems. It's usually the result of Christians not being sure of their authority and power. Just singing "Jesus breaks every fetter" does not move a demon. It must be commanded to leave. If the person is not willing to be set free, it becomes even more of a mess.
An example of someone who ministered deliverance effectively is Derek Prince. I was blessed to be mentored by someone who knew their authority in Christ also. He was not well known, but I was blessed greatly and delivered from several demons.
It helps to know that there are degrees of bondage to evil spirits and demons. We can be oppressed, leading to obsessed, and, in rare cases, possessed.
Perhaps being bound by the occult made me more able to accept the reality of demons. I don't know. I do know the relief and freedom that deliverance brings. It's also important that people know how to keep them out.
It's a big subject. It's unfortunate that much of the church avoids it these days. People could and should be set free, but are left to struggle under an unnecessary burden.
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This is the problem ive had with the Pentecostal church they seem to highlight the gifts more than the giver.
The gifts are much needed in the church today but i have not seen a ministry made out of the gifts in the new testament.
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paul ,peter all demostrated that while serving the lord people would be healed, and demons would flee just by a word, a piece of there garment, the shadow cast. But no way did any say thats what i do as a ministry.
There ministry was to serve the Lord. Jesus said ive come to do the will of the father.
It was never about them but about the Lord.
Over the years ive seen alot of deception and fraudulently revealed in these ministries. It has weaken the church greatly imo.
The blessings and cursing spoken on the two mountains by israel do in fact effect christians today if we do not heed and obey. Remember Christianity comes from Judaism. No person can curse a believer Jesus took that power away as the scripture says cursed is the man that hangs on the tree. (Another study).
But for a backsliding believer he might have some troubles. Remember GOD is the originator of blessings and curses.
The gifts are much needed in the church today but i have not seen a ministry made out of the gifts in the new testament.
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paul ,peter all demostrated that while serving the lord people would be healed, and demons would flee just by a word, a piece of there garment, the shadow cast. But no way did any say thats what i do as a ministry.
There ministry was to serve the Lord. Jesus said ive come to do the will of the father.
It was never about them but about the Lord.
Over the years ive seen alot of deception and fraudulently revealed in these ministries. It has weaken the church greatly imo.
The blessings and cursing spoken on the two mountains by israel do in fact effect christians today if we do not heed and obey. Remember Christianity comes from Judaism. No person can curse a believer Jesus took that power away as the scripture says cursed is the man that hangs on the tree. (Another study).
But for a backsliding believer he might have some troubles. Remember GOD is the originator of blessings and curses.
Christians are not automatically perfect when they are born again. Demons do not leave. Curses laid on people prior to salvation don't automatically life. I have had 3 physical attacks that I know were directly from people that I offended. They did not lay a finger on me and two of the people were 100 km away. Unbelievers can unwittingly or even deliberately invoke attacks by evil spirits.
I met a woman who was fed up with her husband. She quite happily told me that he was not spiritual, so she asked "God" to kill him. He duly died, in his 50's, with no obvious preexisting health problems. God is not in the business of killing people. Death is Satan's nature.
I was released from hereditary bondages. My mother's family called on a demon to take care of me (a supposed guardian angel) while my father fought in the Korean war. They had a seance to bring this about. During the first few years of my life, I was twice near death from severe illness. I was conceived out of wedlock. My maternal grandfather was deeply offended. He gave my parents a wedding present when I was 12 years old. I was the cause of his distress and that was the root of the rejection problem.
Casting out demons was common even in the early days of the church. Origen writes about it. He died AD 254.
I met a woman who was fed up with her husband. She quite happily told me that he was not spiritual, so she asked "God" to kill him. He duly died, in his 50's, with no obvious preexisting health problems. God is not in the business of killing people. Death is Satan's nature.
I was released from hereditary bondages. My mother's family called on a demon to take care of me (a supposed guardian angel) while my father fought in the Korean war. They had a seance to bring this about. During the first few years of my life, I was twice near death from severe illness. I was conceived out of wedlock. My maternal grandfather was deeply offended. He gave my parents a wedding present when I was 12 years old. I was the cause of his distress and that was the root of the rejection problem.
Casting out demons was common even in the early days of the church. Origen writes about it. He died AD 254.
And therein lies the problem. If the Holy Spirit indwells the believer, no evil spirit can enter and occupy space or take up possession. But evil spirits can oppress and attack Christians. So if this church is in full agreement (which it appears to be) just move on quietly. To each is own.
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You are wrong on some levels. Demons do not have to be invited. That's why we are commanded to resist the devil. He will attack if the conditions are met by the believer. Fundamentally, the condition is passivity.
Demons start with suggestions, hoping that they will be accepted. If the suggestion is not resisted, it will take up a place in the believer's mind. Once there, the evil spirit/demon will endeavor to influence the believer's will. If the believer complies, then he/she is in big trouble. How do I know all this? Much study and more personal experience than I care to think about.
Read "War on the Saints" by Jesse Penn-Lewis. Robert Morris and James Robison had a seminar series called "Living Free". They explain how Christians can be oppressed and also how to be delivered.
True Christians are born again. This means that their formerly dead spirit is made alive. Satan has no access to the spirit of the believer. He does have access to the soul. Demons must be cast out. There is no need for any great display. They must obey when commanded in Jesus name.
Demons start with suggestions, hoping that they will be accepted. If the suggestion is not resisted, it will take up a place in the believer's mind. Once there, the evil spirit/demon will endeavor to influence the believer's will. If the believer complies, then he/she is in big trouble. How do I know all this? Much study and more personal experience than I care to think about.
Read "War on the Saints" by Jesse Penn-Lewis. Robert Morris and James Robison had a seminar series called "Living Free". They explain how Christians can be oppressed and also how to be delivered.
True Christians are born again. This means that their formerly dead spirit is made alive. Satan has no access to the spirit of the believer. He does have access to the soul. Demons must be cast out. There is no need for any great display. They must obey when commanded in Jesus name.
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This is a good qestion.
The word of God says in Eph 6:12
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
The word of God also says :
Eph 4:27 nor give place to the devil.
The word PLACE= place, any portion or space marked off, as it were from surrounding area. opportunity, power, occasion for acting
We are to submit to GOD, resist the devil and he will flee from you. James 4:7
I am going to say something that some of my Pentacostel brother and sister and Charismatics may blow a gasket
(I am a pentacostel minister)
You do not have to announce that there is a deliverance service or ministry for God to do a deliverance
. You do not have to create an environment where those who hear the message will have to dig back into their past to deal with their present.Many do not have a balanced biblical approach to deliverance it is there is no devil, or Everything is the devil.
Some hold to the Doctrine of Rev. Leroy Aka Flip Wilson " the devil made me do it." Also, Rev. Bob Lason renounced exercise is not casting out the devil; he is encouraging people to be open to the idea they have a demon and do not know it. Then creates an environment conducive to receiving a demon that will manifest itself for a show time at the Bob casting out the devil hour.
GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL!
In the church setting, our emphasis must be on Christ and Him alone and the word of God. The only thing we are to do is worship God in such a way that the Holy Spirit-filled is Moving and confirming the word of God with 1. Salvation 2. healing 3 Deliverance 4. edification 5. comfort ALL DONE by God and HE gets all the glory.
IF you have to sell deliverance in your ministry as the sole attraction over the Lord Jesus and mention the devil and demons more than the name of Jesus by which all demons only listen, you do not have a deliverance ministry, you have a roadshow.
the only environment a church should be fostering is one that allows the Holy Spirit to move.
Deliverance ministry has hurt many people and is greatly abused. From the "generational curse doctrine of" Christians", and Christians can be demon-possessed.
Lies from the pit of hell. The Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit do not surrender to the devil so you a Christian can get possessed. Unbiblical.
If a person is going to deliverance service after deliverance service and you are not delivered by the power of God through the Lord Jesus Christ and the word of God and have and have sought to be delivered over and over again..... YOU ready? YOU DON"T WANT TO BE DELIVERED.
Whom the Son has set free is free indeed. Light cannot mix with darkness Jesus is always victorious.
Don't need to interview a lying devil, don't need to take a trip down demonic lame to conjure up an emotional response to accepting you are demon-possessed and don't know You want to know if you have the calling to cast out the devil? REV. BOB try helping a person high on spice or flakka
You don't have to advertise deliverance there is much need for it on the streets. Try praying for a person high and controlled by a real demon and you will know if you are called to do deliverance.
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For me it is nothing against anyone's personal testimony but the way this man talked, much of the Christian west doesn't practice demonic deliverance. Implying there is a lot of it but I have never seen anything that made me say to myself that person is demonically influenced and trapped in demonic power of certain disease or sin.
Biblically (this is the only guide I rely on) has no clear guidebook on how to determine who has a demon or demons and in fact in some cases it seems it was worst to exercise a demon if the person doesn't repent because then the demon(s) return in a stronger form.
Biblically (this is the only guide I rely on) has no clear guidebook on how to determine who has a demon or demons and in fact in some cases it seems it was worst to exercise a demon if the person doesn't repent because then the demon(s) return in a stronger form.
This is a good qestion.
The word of God says in Eph 6:12
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
The word of God also says :
Eph 4:27 nor give place to the devil.
The word PLACE= place, any portion or space marked off, as it were from surrounding area. opportunity, power, occasion for acting
We are to submit to GOD, resist the devil and he will flee from you. James 4:7
I am going to say something that some of my Pentacostel brother and sister and Charismatics may blow a gasket
(I am a pentacostel minister)
You do not have to announce that there is a deliverance service or ministry for God to do a deliverance. You do not have to create an environment where those who hear the message will have to dig back into their past to deal with their present.
Many do not have a balanced biblical approach to deliverance it is there is no devil, or Everything is the devil.
Some hold to the Doctrine of Rev. Leroy Aka Flip Wilson " the devil made me do it." Also, Rev. Bob Lason renounced exercise is not casting out the devil; he is encouraging people to be open to the idea they have a demon and do not know it. Then creates an environment conducive to receiving a demon that will manifest itself for a show time at the Bob casting out the devil hour.
GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL!
In the church setting, our emphasis must be on Christ and Him alone and the word of God. The only thing we are to do is worship God in such a way that the Holy Spirit-filled is Moving and confirming the word of God with 1. Salvation 2. healing 3 Deliverance 4. edification 5. comfort ALL DONE by God and HE gets all the glory.
IF you have to sell deliverance in your ministry as the sole attraction over the Lord Jesus and mention the devil and demons more than the name of Jesus by which all demons only listen, you do not have a deliverance ministry, you have a roadshow.
the only environment a church should be fostering is one that allows the Holy Spirit to move.
Deliverance ministry has hurt many people and is greatly abused. From the "generational curse doctrine of" Christians", and Christians can be demon-possessed.
Lies from the pit of hell. The Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit do not surrender to the devil so you a Christian can get possessed. Unbiblical.
If a person is going to deliverance service after deliverance service and you are not delivered by the power of God through the Lord Jesus Christ and the word of God and have and have sought to be delivered over and over again..... YOU ready? YOU DON"T WANT TO BE DELIVERED.
Whom the Son has set free is free indeed. Light cannot mix with darkness Jesus is always victorious.
Don't need to interview a lying devil, don't need to take a trip down demonic lame to conjure up an emotional response to accepting you are demon-possessed and don't know You want to know if you have the calling to cast out the devil? REV. BOB try helping a person high on spice or flakka
You don't have to advertise deliverance there is much need for it on the streets. Try praying for a person high and controlled by a real demon and you will know if you are called to do deliverance.
The word of God says in Eph 6:12
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
The word of God also says :
Eph 4:27 nor give place to the devil.
The word PLACE= place, any portion or space marked off, as it were from surrounding area. opportunity, power, occasion for acting
We are to submit to GOD, resist the devil and he will flee from you. James 4:7
I am going to say something that some of my Pentacostel brother and sister and Charismatics may blow a gasket
(I am a pentacostel minister)
You do not have to announce that there is a deliverance service or ministry for God to do a deliverance
. You do not have to create an environment where those who hear the message will have to dig back into their past to deal with their present.Many do not have a balanced biblical approach to deliverance it is there is no devil, or Everything is the devil.
Some hold to the Doctrine of Rev. Leroy Aka Flip Wilson " the devil made me do it." Also, Rev. Bob Lason renounced exercise is not casting out the devil; he is encouraging people to be open to the idea they have a demon and do not know it. Then creates an environment conducive to receiving a demon that will manifest itself for a show time at the Bob casting out the devil hour.
GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL!
In the church setting, our emphasis must be on Christ and Him alone and the word of God. The only thing we are to do is worship God in such a way that the Holy Spirit-filled is Moving and confirming the word of God with 1. Salvation 2. healing 3 Deliverance 4. edification 5. comfort ALL DONE by God and HE gets all the glory.
IF you have to sell deliverance in your ministry as the sole attraction over the Lord Jesus and mention the devil and demons more than the name of Jesus by which all demons only listen, you do not have a deliverance ministry, you have a roadshow.
the only environment a church should be fostering is one that allows the Holy Spirit to move.
Deliverance ministry has hurt many people and is greatly abused. From the "generational curse doctrine of" Christians", and Christians can be demon-possessed.
Lies from the pit of hell. The Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit do not surrender to the devil so you a Christian can get possessed. Unbiblical.
If a person is going to deliverance service after deliverance service and you are not delivered by the power of God through the Lord Jesus Christ and the word of God and have and have sought to be delivered over and over again..... YOU ready? YOU DON"T WANT TO BE DELIVERED.
Whom the Son has set free is free indeed. Light cannot mix with darkness Jesus is always victorious.
Don't need to interview a lying devil, don't need to take a trip down demonic lame to conjure up an emotional response to accepting you are demon-possessed and don't know You want to know if you have the calling to cast out the devil? REV. BOB try helping a person high on spice or flakka
You don't have to advertise deliverance there is much need for it on the streets. Try praying for a person high and controlled by a real demon and you will know if you are called to do deliverance.
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As I've said, evil spirits can only infiltrate the soul. That's where the will resides. The Holy Spirit dwells in the born again spirit. From Adam onward, Satan and God have been after the same thing. And that is the cooperation of man's will. Satan uses any and every trick in the book to lie and deceive - even quoting the scripture to Jesus. God will not violate man's will. He has His own, righteous ways of gaining our cooperation.
Yes, the spirit of the born again Christian cannot be violated. But Satan does not need to. He can render Christians impotent through lies and deceptions.
If you doubt this, consider the ministry of Jesus. Did evil spirits flee when He came near? No. Did demons go just because He was in a village or town? No. Lord Jesus commanded the evil spirits to leave. He delivered those who came to Him. Demons do not flee just because someone gets born again. They must be driven out. That is kingdom work (Matthew 12:28). Deliverance ministry has ceased to be a priority in a lot of churches. It is a tragedy. People are left burdened and bound unnecessarily. The gospel that we are supposed to preach is that of the kingdom. We see what that is in Luke 4:18. I hope that the real gospel will be restored to the church. The reformation only went so far. Not far enough, as yet.
Yes, the spirit of the born again Christian cannot be violated. But Satan does not need to. He can render Christians impotent through lies and deceptions.
If you doubt this, consider the ministry of Jesus. Did evil spirits flee when He came near? No. Did demons go just because He was in a village or town? No. Lord Jesus commanded the evil spirits to leave. He delivered those who came to Him. Demons do not flee just because someone gets born again. They must be driven out. That is kingdom work (Matthew 12:28). Deliverance ministry has ceased to be a priority in a lot of churches. It is a tragedy. People are left burdened and bound unnecessarily. The gospel that we are supposed to preach is that of the kingdom. We see what that is in Luke 4:18. I hope that the real gospel will be restored to the church. The reformation only went so far. Not far enough, as yet.
In terms of demons. The demons come from the Three Lies that the serpent, Satan, told in the Garden. The Sword of Truth, which Jesus have, is the only weapon that can harm an evil spirit. When you obey God and do the truth you loosen the Devil's hold. When you obey the lies and do them you get more possessed.
"You will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free"
"You will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free"
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I do believe that demons can influence people and that is pretty much their 24/7 employment. I believe scripture is plain on that, but it should not be our emphasis and if someone needs help in that area, I don't think a so called deliverance minister is what is needed. EVERY Christian should know how to deal with the demonic according to scripture and frankly, where is the title of 'deliverance minister' even addressed in scripture?
I cannot find a single verse in scripture that gives legitimacy to a person calling themself a deliverance minister. But it seems they do abound.
We see in scripture how to defeat the devil and his company of liars and it is not a power struggle; it is a truth win and the truth wins every time. Jesus has secured the victory for us and sadly many do not seem to know how to apply it. I don't believe that Christians can be possessed as possession denotes ownership and scripture would disagree with demons owning believers.
I checked out Mr Kail (googled) and there is plenty of info about him online including a manual for deliverance in book form $$$.
There is the gift of discerning of spirits; knowing if what is presented is actually of God or not. This can be an invaluable gift, but all this business of demon what is your name and how long have you been there and so on, does not and should not be a part of helping people. If it's a demon, why converse with it? They are all liars so don't play their game.
Stand on the truth of the word. Every time the devil tempted Jesus, He came back with IT IS WRITTEN
I cannot find a single verse in scripture that gives legitimacy to a person calling themself a deliverance minister. But it seems they do abound.
We see in scripture how to defeat the devil and his company of liars and it is not a power struggle; it is a truth win and the truth wins every time. Jesus has secured the victory for us and sadly many do not seem to know how to apply it. I don't believe that Christians can be possessed as possession denotes ownership and scripture would disagree with demons owning believers.
I checked out Mr Kail (googled) and there is plenty of info about him online including a manual for deliverance in book form $$$.
There is the gift of discerning of spirits; knowing if what is presented is actually of God or not. This can be an invaluable gift, but all this business of demon what is your name and how long have you been there and so on, does not and should not be a part of helping people. If it's a demon, why converse with it? They are all liars so don't play their game.
Stand on the truth of the word. Every time the devil tempted Jesus, He came back with IT IS WRITTEN
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I agree with this. Frankly, I think that demons target churches (well of course they do) in the form of gossip, slander, speaking against the Pastor and other leaders, jealousy and every other sin that the Bible lists. People are often not aware but simple obedience to what the Bible does call sin, that is stopping that sin and see it for what it really is, would set many free right there.
However, every Christian should know how to deal with these things as Paul said, we are not ignorant of the devil's schemes but I don't think he would say that today.
However, every Christian should know how to deal with these things as Paul said, we are not ignorant of the devil's schemes but I don't think he would say that today.
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