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Yahweh has no mother. Mariam is the mother of Yeshua, or to you, God on earth. It is blasphemy to say Yahweh has a mother. I realize you both have files and files and references and references of man, but it seems the Bible is not one of your references.
And what is your theology doing collecting bones, like the skull of Mary Magdalene and other osteo-reliques? These practices sound more like sorcery than anything approaching the true worship of our Father, His Son, and His Holy Spirit. I do know this, come the reserrection, Yahweh needs no help from any theology in gathering all from the dust who sleep. I realize you teach each other that saints are appointed by your church and not Yahweh, and they are walking around heaven, and not sleeping. I believe saints are made by Yahweh, and they are comprised of all who come to Yeshua in spirit and truth. Does this mean non-sainted catholics will not be in Heaven? I don't think so myself, but there will be a flood of tears to wipe away, beginning with myself I am sure.
And what is your theology doing collecting bones, like the skull of Mary Magdalene and other osteo-reliques? These practices sound more like sorcery than anything approaching the true worship of our Father, His Son, and His Holy Spirit. I do know this, come the reserrection, Yahweh needs no help from any theology in gathering all from the dust who sleep. I realize you teach each other that saints are appointed by your church and not Yahweh, and they are walking around heaven, and not sleeping. I believe saints are made by Yahweh, and they are comprised of all who come to Yeshua in spirit and truth. Does this mean non-sainted catholics will not be in Heaven? I don't think so myself, but there will be a flood of tears to wipe away, beginning with myself I am sure.
I am sorry, are you looking for a confrontation in this room? It is quite clear in both of my posts on this subject that it was stated that Mary is the mother of God. God is the Father, the only begotton Son, and the Holy Spirit. What is the confusion on your part? I will say once more for you, Mary was chosen to be the mother of Yahweh's only begotton Son. Don't you think for a moment that Mary would have known all of this previously were she the mother of God, which is a blasphemy to think as true¿? Yeshua, Jesus, was foretold to be born to a Virgin, and He would be called Everlasting Father, the Prince of peace, Comforter, and the Almighty God (all Three). It is impossible for the Mother of the Body of Yeshua to be the mother of Yahweh, the Holy Spirit and Yeshua risen. She is simply the servant of Yahweh who was blessed above all women to carry the incarnate person of Elohanu. If you do not understand this, I am afraid you will never understand...
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I think it's splitting hairs. Unnecessarily.
I don't recall anyone saying that Mary is the mother of God (The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit), but rather than mother of God incarnate, Jesus Christ. You know, with God the Father being his father and the Holy Spirit being the method of impregnation.
Maybe I overlooked a few posts where people did, in fact, say that Mary gave birth to God the Father who then created the entire Universe.
I don't recall anyone saying that Mary is the mother of God (The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit), but rather than mother of God incarnate, Jesus Christ. You know, with God the Father being his father and the Holy Spirit being the method of impregnation.
Maybe I overlooked a few posts where people did, in fact, say that Mary gave birth to God the Father who then created the entire Universe.
Now what, you say? Having been told I misunderstood someone referring to Mary as the mother of God, then having demonstrated all reason in having said thus, then being told it is splitting hairs, I consider this of Satan, and in the name, Yeshua, I ask you stop this total flippancy regarding faith, Yahweh and His word.
Why is it not splitting hairs, to even entertain the thought that the Infinite in every manner God has a mother is an abomination. This conversation is closed. Now what, nothing more, got it?
Why is it not splitting hairs, to even entertain the thought that the Infinite in every manner God has a mother is an abomination. This conversation is closed. Now what, nothing more, got it?
I had it in mind not to bother with your petty remarks and totally thoughtless posts, however here is you burned strawman: When every catholic who says the "hail Mary," they pray to Mary saying "Holy Mary, mother of God," they do not make any distinction. Also, they ask her to pray for them, as if she is in the place of the One Mediator, Yeshua, or Jesus Christ to many. Now, I have seen your posts in the past, and from what you post it seems you just come to stir the tank. When you read the Word and base what you say on the Book that is the foundation of all who love Yeshua, come back and perhaps, if you are repented, you will interact in a more civil fashion. And this really is all I have for you today.
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Tradition holds that she traveled to the south of France, near Marseilles, and preached there at a pagan temple seven years after the Crucifixion, later she traveled to where her friend St. Maximen had established a church. She died there and now her skull still rests in St. Maximen (the town) at the Basilica of St Maximen in France.
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I don't think that invalidated her point at all. Yes it could have been phrased better but she made the distinction that Mother of God means Mary is the mother of Jesus, God incarnate in the flesh. No Catholic holds that Mary is the mother of the Trinity, but that she is the Mother of God because she gave birth to God incarnate in the flesh.
It is wonderful to read that some of you think in that manner, however God is always understood to be the Three in Christian churches, not all, but most. I hate to inform you this, but many believe Mary is the mother of God......this is totally contrary to reason in the light of faith, the Holy Spirit, and the Word. Living in a catholic country, I see this day to day. Nearby in a small town an ancient document was "discovered" revealing that all the people who inhabit that town had received an indulgence, and they were all to go to heaven. The town is either Monovar or Monfort del Cid, very close by. Of course each village continually discovers something to outdo other villages around. Saints arrive in boats of stone, Mary appears in trees, even images appear in fry pans. This is no exaggeration, and it is pitiful.