well, still not following... maybe we can break it into pieces... back in post 427, the first passage mentioned is acts 17, which I agree says we are children of God... is it saying we are literal children?
As long as post 427 includes a quote from my post 426 may I reply to you?
well, yes there's two creation stories, I think... I don't know that the first has to be spiritual... spirit plants, spirit ground? why do you believe the text is corrupted?
I'll answer with my beliefs anyway. I just felt as though I should quote other scriptures from God's word. Hope that you don't mind. Tongue in cheek thing going on.
“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow , he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.”
(Romans 8:28-29)
One might think that this scripture confirms the existence of “spirit children” before natural birth. This is describing the omniscient qualities of the Almighty God. Neither does this scripture indicate that God chooses who goes to heaven and who goes to hell before we are born, leaving us with no choice but to parish.
Now speaking of creation, Jesus being the first born “from the dead” not before His birth, bu rather referring to His resurrection, I quote.....
“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist . And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the
firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence . (Colossians 1:15-18)
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them ,
*I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matthew 7:21-23)
In Matthew, Jesus isn't taking about the fallen angels, He's talking about people of the flesh. If He says to those that He
*“never” knew them, it is certain that He never knew them as “spirit children” before they were born either.
“And so it is written , The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was
not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and
afterward that which is spiritual. ( Corinthians 15:46)
From what I read in scripture (not wanting to argue, I like Mormons) "spirit children" is a fallacy.