Most Christians presently are in spiritual bondage to Satan

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7seasrekeyed

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Luke 10:16 New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”

you are not Jesus

those are the words of our Lord Jesus Christ

you are approaching blasphemy IMO
 
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First of all you don't need to say Born Again Christian because Born Again and Christian are synonymous.

Second, A Christian can only be atoned by Christ's blood if he will truly repent and live a Godly life.

Third and Last, A man saying that he is Christian but living in carnal life cannot be called a Christian.

He must be called a child of the devil who does not do righteousness (read 1 John 3:10)
How is righteousness granted to a Believer? Post with scripture.
 

jameen

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How is righteousness granted to a Believer? Post with scripture.
How?

Here is the answer!

James 1:25 But he that hath looked into the perfect law of liberty, and hath continued therein, not becoming a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work; this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Righteousness can be found in God's laws that a Christian should live by it and in return that man will be blessed.
 
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How?

Here is the answer!

James 1:25 But he that hath looked into the perfect law of liberty, and hath continued therein, not becoming a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work; this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Righteousness can be found in God's laws that a Christian should live by it and in return that man will be blessed.
God only rewards righteousness by the Believer placing and maintaining their Faith exclusively in Christ and the Cross of Calvary where the victory was won, i.e., "The Finished Work", i.e., "The Blood of Jesus." (Romans 4:5)

The question is, "How much value do we place on the Offering of Christ?" Do we feel that the Cross is the answer to every question, the solution to every problem, the strength for every weakness, the life for every death, the salvation for every sin, and the health for every sickness? How you as a Believer look at the Cross, is how you value the Cross. This is very, very serious, so we should think about it very carefully.

For one to receive the proper benefits of the Cross, in other words that for which Jesus died, one must understand its proper value, and at the same time, properly understand its value.

At the Judgement Seat Of Christ,
Paul wrote that “fire” of Christ will reveal those areas of our life that were of Him and those areas which were of ourselves. Everything not of Him will be burned, and everything of Him will result in an eternal blessing for us individually.

JSM

 
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We must never separate Christ from His finished work or the finished work from Christ. Of course, we know that Jesus is no longer on the Cross. In fact, He is presently in heaven, seated by the right hand of the Father (Eph. 2:6; Heb. 1:3). What we are actually talking about are the results of the Cross.

JSM
 
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7seasrekeyed

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stop the false gospel preaching!!!

no one is Judaizing...not even you actually

I suppose you don't know what that means either

stop worshiping Jimmy Swaggart. you should follow Christ and not a fallen foot soldier who needs help
 
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Most Christians don't give Satan control on purpose who are being oppressed (2 Timothy 2:24-26). Sin gives Satan the legal right to hold man captive. Yet, considering that Jesus atoned for all sin at the Cross, past, present, and future, at least for those who will believe, how can Satan hold Christians in bondage? How can a born-again Christian be freed from the bondage of Satan?
God's answer to fear, anxiety, panic attacks, worry, discouragement, bipolar, oppression, bondage, depression, or any care, situation, and problem that life may bring, is to apply the Cross to the problem . 2 Tim. 1:7, 1 Peter 5:7-11, Matthew 6:33; 11:29-30

And he said to them all, If any man will come after Me (the criteria for Discipleship), let him deny himself (not asceticism as many think, but rather that one denies one's own willpower, self-will, strength, and ability, depending totally on Christ), and take up his cross (the benefits of the Cross, looking exclusively to what Jesus did there to meet our every need) daily (this is so important, our looking to the Cross; that we must renew our Faith in what Christ has done for us, even on a daily basis, for Satan will ever try to move us away from the Cross as the Object of our Faith, which always spells disaster), and follow Me (Christ can be followed only by the Believer looking to the Cross, understanding what it accomplished, and by that means alone [Rom. 6:3-5, 11, 14; 8:1-2, 11; 1 Cor. 1:17-18, 21, 23; 2:2; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 2:13-18; Col. 3:14-15]). Luke 9:23

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it (try to live one's life outside of Christ and the Cross): but whosoever will lose his life for My sake, the same shall save it (when we place our Faith entirely in Christ and the Cross, looking exclusively to Him, we have just found "more Abundant Life" [John 10:10]) Luke 9:24

As far as trying to do something as it concerns taking up the Cross daily, we are to do nothing. In fact, it was already done at Calvary some two thousand years ago. On a daily basis, we should reinforce our Faith in Christ and what He has done for us at the Cross (Rom. 6:3-5; 8:2, Gal. 2:20-21, Col. 2:10-15). This is the "Truth" which we must learn, act upon, and continue to act upon, which guarantees the help of the Holy Spirit.

We are not wrestling against flesh and blood. Satan has been defeated through the Cross. Principalities and powers have been spoiled (Col. 2:15). We are enforcing this victory through applying the Cross of Calvary to the pulling down strongholds by placing and maintain our Faith exclusively in Christ and the Finished Work at Calvary Cross where the victory was won, i.e., "The Blood of Jesus." Our source of Power is the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.

The LORD shall fight for you, and you shall hold your peace (Exodus 14:14). "In Justification, the Lord fights 'for' us, and in Sanctification, He fights 'in' us."

Two kinds of peace
1. Justifying Peace - This is Peace with God, a legal standing. Rom. 8:7; Eph. 2:14-15
2. Sanctifying Peace - This is the Peace of God in the heart. Rom. 8:6; 14:19; 15:13; Gal. 1:3

The first is the result of a legal standing. The second is the result of the Work of the Holy Spirit. The first is static, never fluctuates, the second changes almost from hour to hour. The first, every Christian has, the second, every Christian may have.

Sanctifying peace allows the Holy Spirit to deliver the Believer into the death of Christ so Christ life is manifested through the Believer (2 Cor. 4:11, Gal. 2:20-21, Romans 8:2; 13, John 14:21).

We have been given the keys of the Kingdom (Matthew 16:19). This gives us the authority to "bind" and "loose." "Binding" ties Satan's hands and stops his power to "steal, kill, and destroy," likewise, the "loosing" releases all that Jesus did at Calvary and the Resurrection. "Binding" has to do with the spirit world of darkness while "loosing" has to do with the Spirit world of Light. To "bind" means to restrict, stop, hinder, fetter, check, hold back, arrest, or put a stop to. To "loose" means to untie, unbind, unlock, liberate, release, forgive, or free.

The only way to God is through Jesus Christ (John 14:6)...the only way to Jesus Christ is by the Means of the Cross (Luke 14:27). The only way to the Cross is a denial of self (Luke 9:23). If any person tries to come any other way, Jesus says, "they are a thief and a robber" (John 10:1).

1. Jesus Christ is the source of all blessings.
2. The Cross is the means by which all blessings are given.
3. The object of our faith must be Christ and the Cross.
4. That being done, the Holy Spirit will greatly help us.

JSM and Brother John Eckhardt

 
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7seasrekeyed

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well, you are simply preaching Jimmy Swaggart here

you are most certainly NOT preaching Jesus Christ risen and seated at the right hand of the Father

there are so many things wrong with Swaggart's supposed revelations that one hardly knows where to begin

how about telling how his views on his opinion of Paul's...the Apostle Paul....limited understanding and how he, Jimmy Swaggart, understands scripture so much better

right

let's try to remember the Bible Swaggart likes to thump, was written by men God called and inspired through His Spirit

and it would really be good to remember that Paul, the guy Swaggart seems to want to overwrite, actually wrote more than half of the NT

any logical person would therefore be convinced that the person who wrote all that, is the one to whom the better understanding belongs

we need to follow Jesus not a person who is so badly mixed up and refused to be corrected and instead came up with a false gospel
 
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How?

Here is the answer!

James 1:25 But he that hath looked into the perfect law of liberty, and hath continued therein, not becoming a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work; this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Righteousness can be found in God's laws that a Christian should live by it and in return that man will be blessed.
Nope, that's not the answer. #fail
 
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Luke 10:16 New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”
Reality check: You are NOT Jesus!
 
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Wow... this thread has some serious confusion going on. I'm making popcorn.
I think this is more appropriate:

[video=youtube;GJZB8SCkGkE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJZB8SCkGkE[/video]
 

Dino246

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Clearly you don't understand what "Judaizing" is.

In the New Testament, Paul and the other apostles battled the "Judaizers" who would follow them and tell new Christians that they had to follow the Jewish laws to make their faith complete. They added law to faith. Paul wrote to the Galatians specifically to counter this heresy.

Ironically, given the material you are promoting in the "tithing" thread, it is you who are behaving like a Judaizer. Please follow your own directive.
 

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How?

Here is the answer!

James 1:25 But he that hath looked into the perfect law of liberty, and hath continued therein, not becoming a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work; this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Righteousness can be found in God's laws that a Christian should live by it and in return that man will be blessed.
100% incorrect. We are made righteous by being in Christ, no other way. If you are counting on your own works to be righteous then it is you being deceived.
 
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How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation...(Heb. 2:3). Why have you neglected the Cross? When we reject this precious blood, this price that was paid who spared not His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, you are now hell bound!

Satan has taken many here captive. They have left the faith and are now enemies of the cross. When you say cross, they say Swaggart gospel. Most here do not attend church. Most have fallen from grace.

(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Phil 3:18).
 

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How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation...(Heb. 2:3). Why have you neglected the Cross? When we reject this precious blood, this price that was paid who spared not His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, you are now hell bound!
First, if you're going to condemn people, at least ensure your pronouns are consistent.

Second, Jesus says in Luke 6:37 "“Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned."

Most here do not attend church. Most have fallen from grace.

You don't know "most here". You have no business making such pronouncements.