My KJV Debate with Jeffrey Dollar
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"Which KJV do you use? The OFFICIAL 1611 or the 1769 Blaney edition?
Furthermore, do you use the Cambridge edition or the Oxford edition?
If the Cambridge edition, which ONE?
1629: Cambridge KJB
1638: Cambridge KJB
1760: Cambridge KJB
1769: Oxford KJB (This is the Benjamin Blayney edition)
1873: Cambridge Paragraph KJB
1900: Cambridge KJB (aka, “Pure Cambridge Edition”)"
Furthermore, do you use the Cambridge edition or the Oxford edition?
If the Cambridge edition, which ONE?
1629: Cambridge KJB
1638: Cambridge KJB
1760: Cambridge KJB
1769: Oxford KJB (This is the Benjamin Blayney edition)
1873: Cambridge Paragraph KJB
1900: Cambridge KJB (aka, “Pure Cambridge Edition”)"
"The Preface to the 1611 KJV is eleven pages in length. It gives glory to God for his Word, while at the same time defending its own translation of the Scripture. However, the 1611 KJV translators state that while there are "imperfections and blemishes" in other translations of the Bible that all previous English translations could rightly be called the Word of God. The 1611 Preface states:
No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it.
Now to the latter we answer; that we do not deny, nay we affirm and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English, set forth by men of our profession, (for we have seen none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God.
And to the same effect say we, that we are so far off from condemning any of their labours that travailed before us in this kind, either in this land, or beyond sea, either in King Henry's time, or King Edward's, (if there were any translation, or correction of a translation, in his time) or Queen Elizabeth's of ever renowned memory, that we acknowledge them to have been raised up of God for the building and furnishing of his Church, and that they deserve to be had of us and of posterity in everlasting remembrance.
The 1611 translators never outrightly condemned other good-faith translations of the Bible like KJO advocates do today, but understood that any translation could be improved upon — including their own. Note that renowned the Greek scholar, Daniel Wallace, said there have been multiple revisions [according to Thomas Nelson the NKJV is the fifth major revision] and some 100,000 changes to the 1611 KJV since its original printing (Why So Many Versions?, Biblical Studies Press, 1997). This is significant, and, of course, some changes were more drastic than others. If memory serves me correctly, around 421 were word changes and the remainder printing errors, spelling standardization, etc. Needless to say, the 1611 KJV has definitely been improved upon since its original production."
No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it.
Now to the latter we answer; that we do not deny, nay we affirm and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English, set forth by men of our profession, (for we have seen none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God.
And to the same effect say we, that we are so far off from condemning any of their labours that travailed before us in this kind, either in this land, or beyond sea, either in King Henry's time, or King Edward's, (if there were any translation, or correction of a translation, in his time) or Queen Elizabeth's of ever renowned memory, that we acknowledge them to have been raised up of God for the building and furnishing of his Church, and that they deserve to be had of us and of posterity in everlasting remembrance.
The 1611 translators never outrightly condemned other good-faith translations of the Bible like KJO advocates do today, but understood that any translation could be improved upon — including their own. Note that renowned the Greek scholar, Daniel Wallace, said there have been multiple revisions [according to Thomas Nelson the NKJV is the fifth major revision] and some 100,000 changes to the 1611 KJV since its original printing (Why So Many Versions?, Biblical Studies Press, 1997). This is significant, and, of course, some changes were more drastic than others. If memory serves me correctly, around 421 were word changes and the remainder printing errors, spelling standardization, etc. Needless to say, the 1611 KJV has definitely been improved upon since its original production."
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Another for consideration:
https://bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today
https://bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today
That's not a good argument...
Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Romans 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Romans 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_James_VI_and_I
There seems to be good evidence that he was bi. So if we're going to castigate modern translations for their supposed 'influences', let's be consistent and point out the 'influences' of the people behind the KJV.
There seems to be good evidence that he was bi. So if we're going to castigate modern translations for their supposed 'influences', let's be consistent and point out the 'influences' of the people behind the KJV.
No that was what came up on Bible get away so I used it ---
I can read any bible and get what it is saying as I rely on the Holy Spirit to help me no matter what the Bible is ----How do you think I knew to research the differences in the Names of the 2 Scripture which mean the same thing -----I am not that Smart believe me ----The Holy Spirit help me to know what to research -----and I follow instructions -----
All Bibles will same the same thing ----they may use different words but if you do your research you will see they all came back to the same meaning -----
People need to stop making Scripture so difficult by their own confusion -----and allow the Holy Spirit to do what He does best ---help you decipher God's Word ----
Actually if people would put their Faith and Trust into action and actually do what the Word says --they would would see that it doesn't matter what Bible you read ----the Word does what it says it will do ---to me that makes more sense rather than trying to figure out what Greek was used ---that is just a waist of time when one could be Living a Happy ---Healthy ---prosperous --joyest ---peaceful life ---like I live by doing what God says to do in His word in all the Bibles ----
God's word is alive and active ----and so it does what it says --try that instead of all the foolishness goings on about which Bible is right ---they all carry the Same message -----pick one read it and do what the Word says ----and enjoy life ----stress free -----
Have you already looked out for the other English Bibles in Luke 3:3? No, we don't need to look for Greek counterparts just plain English if your argument of similarity is valid but I am not going to stress you, and perhaps if you only have spare time to do it and I agree, that God's word is alive and active.
Blessings
Blessings
Thanks for the link but some quotes need to be verified. Still, this sounds like no good evidence. Anyway that is not part of the scripture