My "Magic Shop" dilemma

[Elijah19]

I'm really thankful that you have a genuine concern for my soul, Brainfreeze. I'm not saying this in sarcasm... I'm really not. I'm thankful that you love me in Christ, and that you wish to share a way to escape what seems like a threat to my soul. I love Jesus too, man. And as a Christian, putting aside the magician for now, I am truly thankful for your loving prayers for me. This message really isn’t trickery. I really love Jesus and am thankful that you, and like-minded others, love and worry about me one here in the same way.
It seems to me that arguing about magic like this is more fruitless than good. Both of us being mature, we can agree that even if we don't see eye to eye on this issue, we do see eye to eye on one. We both belong to Jesus according to Romans 10:9. It says that “If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Well, here we are to say that we both declare that Jesus is Lord, and that God did raise him from the dead. The Bible cannot lie. Based on our acceptance of that statement, we must logically assume that BOTH of us are saved and set.
As such, you are my brother, and I state my position only in respect. My magic performances are much the same thing as Acting.
Would you tell a Christian Dramatist (actor) to stop acting because actors pretend to be someone they are not? This is also a form of illusion.
What about Christian Storytellers? Not all stories they tell will be true, but that’s just part of storytelling. It creates an illusion in the imagination of the listener.
What about Christian Soldiers? Soldiers must sometimes trick an enemy with tactics. In fact, no good soldier who truly serves his country should be without sly tactics. This, also, is not wrong. It’s just part of the job.
How about a Biblical example? What about Rahab the prostitute, who hid the spies in her home during Joshua’s siege of Jericho? She lied to the guards who came looking for the spies. Without her illusion of not having the spies in her home, Israel would have lost good Soldiers (as mentioned above) because of a lack of illusion. Yet Rahab is actually commended for this deception (commended for it!) in the book of Hebrews where she is listed as a member of the heroes of faith.
Also, the Spies Rahab hid were trying to create the illusion of being just visitors to Rahab to the sinful residents of Jericho. Were they also sinning by being spies for God’s army? No. It’s part of the job. Espionage requires illusion.
The point is, sometimes illusion is not a sin when used appropriately. There is nothing wrong with being a good Christian actor, a good Christian storyteller, a good Christian Solder, or even a good Christian spy. Consequentially, my magic is nothing more than acting and storytelling, so it doesn’t really fit into the realm of sin per se.

 

[Brainfreeze]

I'm really thankful that you have a genuine concern for my soul, Brainfreeze. I'm not saying this in sarcasm... I'm really not. I'm thankful that you love me in Christ, and that you wish to share a way to escape what seems like a threat to my soul. I love Jesus too, man. And as a Christian, putting aside the magician for now, I am truly thankful for your loving prayers for me. This message really isn’t trickery. I really love Jesus and am thankful that you, and like-minded others, love and worry about me one here in the same way.
It seems to me that arguing about magic like this is more fruitless than good. Both of us being mature, we can agree that even if we don't see eye to eye on this issue, we do see eye to eye on one. We both belong to Jesus according to Romans 10:9. It says that “If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Well, here we are to say that we both declare that Jesus is Lord, and that God did raise him from the dead. The Bible cannot lie. Based on our acceptance of that statement, we must logically assume that BOTH of us are saved and set.
As such, you are my brother, and I state my position only in respect. My magic performances are much the same thing as Acting.
Would you tell a Christian Dramatist (actor) to stop acting because actors pretend to be someone they are not? This is also a form of illusion.
What about Christian Storytellers? Not all stories they tell will be true, but that’s just part of storytelling. It creates an illusion in the imagination of the listener.
What about Christian Soldiers? Soldiers must sometimes trick an enemy with tactics. In fact, no good soldier who truly serves his country should be without sly tactics. This, also, is not wrong. It’s just part of the job.
How about a Biblical example? What about Rahab the prostitute, who hid the spies in her home during Joshua’s siege of Jericho? She lied to the guards who came looking for the spies. Without her illusion of not having the spies in her home, Israel would have lost good Soldiers (as mentioned above) because of a lack of illusion. Yet Rahab is actually commended for this deception (commended for it!) in the book of Hebrews where she is listed as a member of the heroes of faith.
Also, the Spies Rahab hid were trying to create the illusion of being just visitors to Rahab to the sinful residents of Jericho. Were they also sinning by being spies for God’s army? No. It’s part of the job. Espionage requires illusion.
The point is, sometimes illusion is not a sin when used appropriately. There is nothing wrong with being a good Christian actor, a good Christian storyteller, a good Christian Solder, or even a good Christian spy. Consequentially, my magic is nothing more than acting and storytelling, so it doesn’t really fit into the realm of sin per se.

, I'm glad your deciding to leave it be, good for you brother !! , that means the rest of your questions are irrelevant. You realize it's wrong and I praise Jesus for letting you realize this.. Yes, I care about everyone and everyone's spiritual well being with Christ Yahshua. I'm glad others here chimed in to give through the Spirit to help you realize that lies are sins.. Praise God ! Much love, peace, and blessings to you Elijah19

 

[Nautilus]

Instead of attacking the people, try proving your case with Scripture and or with real world examples.

ok for all the drinking threads...jesus turned water into wine...but yet people will sit and twist every little word to say it was grape juice...grow up

nowhere does it say we cant play jokes on people. illusions are basically practical jokes, tthere isnt even ill intent behind them. its literally oh wis this card boom.

you people twist scriptures to support whatever crooked worldview you want to force on people. the only thing i can say is that im glad your branch/interpreation of christianity is dying out. You're the reason people stay away because you make christianity seem like the number one way to never enjoy life again.

 

[gb9]

right. Scripture says not to love the world or anything in it. it does not say not to have any enjoyment. that is what those folks say. them. not the Bible.

 

[oldthennew]

I fish all the time... And I use " plugs " not shrimp but rather plastic " deceptive bait.. It's a form of hunting game. I trick fish to biting on a hooked line, this is my intention .." To catch fish and eat them " it's fun also and peaceful in the wild... I do not take this talent and apply it to " tricking " my fellow man .. Big difference..

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many years ago I went to a major football game in our city.
it was the first and the last, as the experience left me traumatized.
back in those days, alcohol was sold in the arena outright, even now
at baseball games on local tv you can see people drinking beer in the stands.

it was basically a drunken revelry with all the trimmings of hatred and war among
the crowds.
it was basically 'mob violence' with physical battles going on along with cursing one another
and threats of injury to fellow spectators, there were many engaged in fist-fighting and shoving.
the atmosphere was dripping with frantic screams and aggression towards each other,
even the man that I went with participated.

the whole arena had a dark pall hanging overhead and I really did feel trapped inside.
a totally horrible experience to say the least, darkness prevailed and all seemed to be
possessed or at least influenced.

as we've seen on tv, many, many times the crowds turn against one another at these mock-gladiator games
and spin out of control, revealing some kind of helter-skelter-circus hidden inside of themselves,
infecting each other.

so, where have the sports and entertainment industry been elevated to in ones life?
I say that it is in the 'upper-tier' of the 'spiritual tower of babel', with all of the other 'false worship'-
worshipping the players/stars as if they are some kind of super/god/being who is to be adored.

if only our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ were given such dedicated zeal, the world would truly be
a better place to live.


LUKE 16:15.
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

 

[Jason0047]

I'm really thankful that you have a genuine concern for my soul, Brainfreeze. I'm not saying this in sarcasm... I'm really not. I'm thankful that you love me in Christ, and that you wish to share a way to escape what seems like a threat to my soul. I love Jesus too, man. And as a Christian, putting aside the magician for now, I am truly thankful for your loving prayers for me. This message really isn’t trickery. I really love Jesus and am thankful that you, and like-minded others, love and worry about me one here in the same way.
It seems to me that arguing about magic like this is more fruitless than good. Both of us being mature, we can agree that even if we don't see eye to eye on this issue, we do see eye to eye on one. We both belong to Jesus according to Romans 10:9. It says that “If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Well, here we are to say that we both declare that Jesus is Lord, and that God did raise him from the dead. The Bible cannot lie. Based on our acceptance of that statement, we must logically assume that BOTH of us are saved and set.
As such, you are my brother, and I state my position only in respect. My magic performances are much the same thing as Acting.
Would you tell a Christian Dramatist (actor) to stop acting because actors pretend to be someone they are not? This is also a form of illusion.
What about Christian Storytellers? Not all stories they tell will be true, but that’s just part of storytelling. It creates an illusion in the imagination of the listener.
What about Christian Soldiers? Soldiers must sometimes trick an enemy with tactics. In fact, no good soldier who truly serves his country should be without sly tactics. This, also, is not wrong. It’s just part of the job.
How about a Biblical example? What about Rahab the prostitute, who hid the spies in her home during Joshua’s siege of Jericho? She lied to the guards who came looking for the spies. Without her illusion of not having the spies in her home, Israel would have lost good Soldiers (as mentioned above) because of a lack of illusion. Yet Rahab is actually commended for this deception (commended for it!) in the book of Hebrews where she is listed as a member of the heroes of faith.
Also, the Spies Rahab hid were trying to create the illusion of being just visitors to Rahab to the sinful residents of Jericho. Were they also sinning by being spies for God’s army? No. It’s part of the job. Espionage requires illusion.
The point is, sometimes illusion is not a sin when used appropriately. There is nothing wrong with being a good Christian actor, a good Christian storyteller, a good Christian Solder, or even a good Christian spy. Consequentially, my magic is nothing more than acting and storytelling, so it doesn’t really fit into the realm of sin per se.

First, the difference between magicians and actors is that in acting one is not closely associated with the occult and the art of deception (Whereby one has to ask a question as to whether giving their money to those who are in the occult is okay - When we both know it is not okay). Also, if a person is in a play as a part of telling the story of Jesus at their church, they are not getting any of the glory unlike the gospel magician. For Simon the sorcerer (within the Bible) used his power of magic to appear to be someone great (I will mention more about in him in my next post). But David Copperfield, David Blaine, Criss Angel and others all attract attention because of their illusions or magic so as to be great. They all attract attention to THEMSELVES and the power that they hold over their audience with their magic. For they appear to have a POWER that others do not have. The actors are not appearing to have a power. Nor are the actors in a gospel play seeking to point any glory to themselves unlike the gospel magician who is going to receive praise and or claps of applaud for their tricks (Instead of just preaching the gospel simply and not with enticing words of wisdom or with the art of dazzling folks with magic tricks). Preaching the gospel is not a magic show that is closely associated with the occult. David Blaine and Criss Angell had both had tried to re-enact Jesus' miracles. They are mocking Christ by doing these things with their illusions. To learn more about Criss Angel, go here:

Criss Angel EXPOSED!

If you continue to be a magician and you turn out to be great, you will one day have the hope and reward of being listed amongst them.

List of magicians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But Jesus says, pick up your cross and deny yourself. Being a magician is of your old life and or it is the ways of the world. Jesus says, deny yourself and pick up your cross. We are also told in the Scriptures that we are to remain unspotted from the world. In addition, we are told in Scripture... "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord," (2 Corinthians 6:17).

 

[Jason0047]

Criss Angel EXPOSED!

Side Note:

Oh, and as for the Christian resource link above. All views or beliefs expressed by the author of that site may not express all of my views or beliefs. I am merely agreeing with the truth in the article that he had written on this point. Thank you. And may God bless you.

 

[Jason0047]

Acts 8:4-11
"Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word. Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. And there was great joy in that city. But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one: To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries."


Yes, I know Simon was not an illusionist or magician who just did tricks up on stage today. But Simon was using his magic or illusions so as to appear in being someone great. For the passage above here is saying that he is like unto being some... GREAT ONE. But the key importance here to understand is that he used his magic to be a great person. To gain attention for himself. The people thought he had some great power of God. But he was bewitching them with his sorceries or tricks.

Again, as I pointed out before, David Copperfield, Criss angel, and David Blaine all create tricks of magic or illusions so as to appear great in people's eyes. They want people to think they have some kind of power.

Anyways, let's keep reading...

Acts 8:12-23
"But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity."


Okay, at this point we see Simon working his art of magic so as to trick or to deceive whereby he is claiming to be .... GREAT. Then he and others come to believe in the gospel that was given to him by the apostles. Simon and the others not only believed but they were also baptized, too. But they did not receive the Holy Spirit, though. Why? Well, the Samarian land was evil (See verses 4-7 in the first passage above). That is why Peter and John came. They were there for the people to receive the Holy Spirit. See, just believing in the gospel and or getting water baptized is not enough if you are not whole hearted or committed in in your behavior towards God.

Jeremiah 29:13 says, "And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart."

Deuteronomy 4:29 says, "But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul."

In the New Testament, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." (Matthew 22:37).​

In other words, receiving the gospel and or getting baptized doesn't mean anything if you are not whole heartedly dedicated in receiving and or in seeking God for your life. For a person who is whole hearted is ready to receive the Holy Spirit.

But we see that Simon did not have a heart that was fully seeking God and or in willing to be entirely dedicated to the Lord. For Simon desired to purchase that power no doubt to impress people with more power as a part of his "show" to be GREAT. But Peter had then seen thru Simon's false facade and recognized him as a charlatan or as a deceiver who was striving to use the power of God for his own personal gain. For Peter tells Simon, that he had no part in this matter and his heart was not right with God. Peter told Simon to repent that he might be forgiven. Simon never truly believed and gave himself to the Lord with a whole and pure heart. He was not willing to give up his magic and or tricks and give Himself to God.

For you see, my friend. Magic is a deception and a lie. It gives glory to the magician and it does not give glory unto the Lord our God. Magic tricks or illusions sets up the illusionist as having great power while in the same moment they are glorifying themselves in the eyes of others. Nobody should receive the glory but God (i.e. Jesus Christ) who is our Savior. For no man can lay any foundation but Jesus Christ. So choose this day whom you will serve. Magic or Jesus Christ. It cannot be both.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Where should I buy my supplies? Online? Should I make them? Is it wrong to buy the non-occult tricks from this shop knowing I will fund the occult-ish ones?

I haven't read through the whole thread, so someone may have already said this, but maybe it bears repeating ....

I don't believe what you do with your illusory tricks is sin, and I think they could even be used to preach the Gospel through a lot of imaginative ways.

Buy your supplies online. I imagine you could even find a Christian-based site that provides them. I even found one for you, if you want to PM me. God bless.

 

[Jason0047]

See, just believing in the gospel and or getting water baptized is not enough if you are not whole hearted or committed in in your behavior towards God.

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Edit Correction:
(From previouis post):

Meant to say, believing in the gospel and repenting of your sins is not enough if you are not whole hearted in being dedicated towards God. A believer is not saved by water baptism. Baptism is just an outward symbol. Tried to correct it, but I went outside my 5 minute window.

 

[Elijah19]

I'd love to have the address of that Christian-based site, Vigilant_Warrior. Could you get it to me? I'm really thankful for your help.

 

[Jason0047]

ok for all the drinking threads...jesus turned water into wine...but yet people will sit and twist every little word to say it was grape juice...grow up

nowhere does it say we cant play jokes on people. illusions are basically practical jokes, tthere isnt even ill intent behind them. its literally oh wis this card boom.

you people twist scriptures to support whatever crooked worldview you want to force on people. the only thing i can say is that im glad your branch/interpreation of christianity is dying out. You're the reason people stay away because you make christianity seem like the number one way to never enjoy life again.

Love, peace, and blessings be unto you from the Lord Jesus Christ.

As for your misunderstanding on the type of miracle Jesus did at Cana: Well, if you were to examine the Scriptures with an objective eye and not from a biased position in liking alcohol, you will see that Scripture and History is in favor that Jesus did not make an intoxicating substance. Check out the Scripture again (prayerfully) in these threads here:

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...into-unfermented-wine-not-fermented-wine.html

ECT Did Jesus make fermented grape juice or unfermented grape juice? - Theology Online | Christian Forums & More

As for magic tricks and magicians: These things are of the world. If one becomes a magician, one is listed alongside other magicians who are involved in the occult in some way. Also, magic brings glory to the magician and not God. It gives the magician the appearance of having a power that puts an audience in awe of his tricks. This takes away from the power and message of the gospel. The actual trick is also based on a deliberate lie or deception that God has never approved of in us doing.

 

[Jason0047]

I'd love to have the address of that Christian-based site, Vigilant_Warrior. Could you get it to me? I'm really thankful for your help.

Just because Catholics call themselves Christian does not really mean that they are Christian. Christian book stores today carry many Catholic items. It is a compromise based on their love for money. Just as Christian store websites are compromising on providing magic items because they want to make more money.

 

[Jason0047]

Now, yes. It is true. Both Rahab and or even Joshua both used deception. But these were tactics during war time so as to save people's lives. No such command was given to us in the New Testament to deceive people to win them to the gospel. Nobody needs to use the art of deception or tricks in preaching the gospel. Pray to God about it one more time, my friend. Do not go off what your heart feels. For the heart is deceptive. Talk to the Lord about it (Jeremiah 33:3). Ask Him with being open that it could be wrong.

 

[Jason0047]

Also consider reading Acts 19. When Paul was in Ephesus, the people heard the gospel preached to them plainly and the false Jewish excorcists who were claiming to have the same power as Paul were made fools by an evil spirit they were trying to cast out. So the people believed and they burned their pagan scrolls of magic that was had much value.

Acts 19 NIV

You see. The Jewish excorcists that they could use Jesus as a part of their magics. But it doesn't work like that, though. One needs to burn their old magics and idols in their life when they come to the Lord.

 

[Hizikyah]

Romans 6:16, "Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey--whether of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

 

[Brainfreeze]

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many years ago I went to a major football game in our city.
it was the first and the last, as the experience left me traumatized.
back in those days, alcohol was sold in the arena outright, even now
at baseball games on local tv you can see people drinking beer in the stands.

it was basically a drunken revelry with all the trimmings of hatred and war among
the crowds.
it was basically 'mob violence' with physical battles going on along with cursing one another
and threats of injury to fellow spectators, there were many engaged in fist-fighting and shoving.
the atmosphere was dripping with frantic screams and aggression towards each other,
even the man that I went with participated.

the whole arena had a dark pall hanging overhead and I really did feel trapped inside.
a totally horrible experience to say the least, darkness prevailed and all seemed to be
possessed or at least influenced.

as we've seen on tv, many, many times the crowds turn against one another at these mock-gladiator games
and spin out of control, revealing some kind of helter-skelter-circus hidden inside of themselves,
infecting each other.

so, where have the sports and entertainment industry been elevated to in ones life?
I say that it is in the 'upper-tier' of the 'spiritual tower of babel', with all of the other 'false worship'-
worshipping the players/stars as if they are some kind of super/god/being who is to be adored.

if only our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ were given such dedicated zeal, the world would truly be
a better place to live.


LUKE 16:15.
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

I don't really care to much for " professional sports " but I won't mind watching my son play a little league game. As I said it creates good things like overcoming, dedication, team work, skill, healthy, all rolled in one.. I don't mind it, but I can tell you probably twenty names from professional sports because I've watched them play growing up like Michael Jordan or Larry Bird. This doesn't mean I'm wearing Jordan shoes or supporting his jersey at the moment. I just know who they are from my old self, and I still might watch a ball game here and there, I idol none of them, I care not if any of them lose " even home team ". I'm always in complete control if or when I watch, it doesn't dictate what I do or how I am. I don't care who wins I watch a game, " college pretty fun to watch " but I'd much rather be playing it or watching a family member playing. Sports are nothing like magic on a " minor " level though, it's a fun game. If some don't like it, it's ok no one has to play.

 

[Brainfreeze]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y26AO_G4yg

Wrong Jason, there is a problem with acting, take a few minutes to listen to this young man, how it's wrong...

First, the difference between magicians and actors is that in acting one is not closely associated with the occult and the art of deception (Whereby one has to ask a question as to whether giving their money to those who are in the occult is okay - When we both know it is not okay). Also, if a person is in a play as a part of telling the story of Jesus at their church, they are not getting any of the glory unlike the gospel magician. For Simon the sorcerer (within the Bible) used his power of magic to appear to be someone great (I will mention more about in him in my next post). But David Copperfield, David Blaine, Criss Angel and others all attract attention because of their illusions or magic so as to be great. They all attract attention to THEMSELVES and the power that they hold over their audience with their magic. For they appear to have a POWER that others do not have. The actors are not appearing to have a power. Nor are the actors in a gospel play seeking to point any glory to themselves unlike the gospel magician who is going to receive praise and or claps of applaud for their tricks (Instead of just preaching the gospel simply and not with enticing words of wisdom or with the art of dazzling folks with magic tricks). Preaching the gospel is not a magic show that is closely associated with the occult. David Blaine and Criss Angell had both had tried to re-enact Jesus' miracles. They are mocking Christ by doing these things with their illusions. To learn more about Criss Angel, go here:

But Jesus says, pick up your cross and deny yourself. Being a magician is of your old life and or it is the ways of the world. Jesus says, deny yourself and pick up your cross. We are also told in the Scriptures that we are to remain unspotted from the world. In addition, we are told in Scripture... "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord," (2 Corinthians 6:17).

 

[oldthennew]

BF,
thanks for the reply.

your KEY words are (fun/game).

upright games are a great way to learn physical skills, respect for others, how to be a good loser
and a good winner, patience, and cooperation with the team, all wonderful character builders,
if put into play and taught from the very beginning to be carried into adulthood.

unfortunately the competitiveness and rivalries among the coaches and parents often supersedes
what is really important, so many children end up learning the adults flaws.

many of the worldwide games and here, are all about $$$$, and this is truly a travesty,
the players seem to be all about the big-bucks while so many of their countrymen are
homeless and hungry, and poor.

I saw recently heard it stated that many of the players and coaches at the big games are so busy
looking at themselves on the 'big-cameras' that it is interfering with their game.

vanity, all is vanity.

 

[Jason0047]

It is all vanity indeed.
I also want to add this in relation to the topic of using magic in preaching the gospel, too.

I suppose what I am trying to say is it is the safer path and or way to not use magic tricks as a part of one's preaching of the gospel. I mean, can you preach without the magic? If you feel you cannot, then that is a sure sign that it is something wrong. Paul preached simply and in a common way. Nowhere do we see any apostle preaching in such a clever and dazzling way. There is no no need to if the Spirit of God is with you.

I mean, ask your audience if they were more impressed with God's message or with your tricks.