My take on water baptism...
- Thread starter Peterlag
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
And you are willfully completely skipping over the whole MEANING of the word "baptized". To the first century folks, there was NO misunderstanding what it meant. It meant immersion in WATER. ONLY THAT. Baptism in the name of Jesus is to be immersed (baptized) under the authority of Jesus... not under John's authority.... but God's. It's STILL BAPTISM.... immersion in water. No matter how badly you wish it was not so. This is what the church practiced for almost 2000 years without question. THEY understood it... but they were not as "educated" as you are, I suppose.
-
1
- Show all
Can't be because water baptism is not taught in any of the Epistles written by Paul or any other Apostle. All that can be known for the Church of God concerning the gospel of Jesus Christ is in those Epistles. And water is not in there.
If it were your Bible would fall apart because there's nothing in water that makes any sense with what is considered our walk in the spirit. Pryor to the Church Epistles is where there was no spirit of Christ available because Acts chapter two had not yet come. So before spirit you had water. If you still have water today than spirit means nothing to you.
If it were your Bible would fall apart because there's nothing in water that makes any sense with what is considered our walk in the spirit. Pryor to the Church Epistles is where there was no spirit of Christ available because Acts chapter two had not yet come. So before spirit you had water. If you still have water today than spirit means nothing to you.
Water baptism is not taught in any of the Epistles written by Paul or any other Apostle. All that can be known for the Church of God concerning the gospel of Jesus Christ is in those Epistles. And water is not in there.
If it were your Bible would fall apart because there's nothing in water that makes any sense with what is considered our walk in the spirit. Pryor to the Church Epistles is where there was no spirit of Christ available because Acts chapter two had not yet come. So before spirit you had water. If you still have water today than spirit means nothing to you.
If it were your Bible would fall apart because there's nothing in water that makes any sense with what is considered our walk in the spirit. Pryor to the Church Epistles is where there was no spirit of Christ available because Acts chapter two had not yet come. So before spirit you had water. If you still have water today than spirit means nothing to you.
Water baptism is not taught in any of the Epistles written by Paul or any other Apostle. All that can be known for the Church of God concerning the gospel of Jesus Christ is in those Epistles. And water is not in there.
If it were your Bible would fall apart because there's nothing in water that makes any sense with what is considered our walk in the spirit. Pryor to the Church Epistles is where there was no spirit of Christ available because Acts chapter two had not yet come. So before spirit you had water. If you still have water today than spirit means nothing to you.
If it were your Bible would fall apart because there's nothing in water that makes any sense with what is considered our walk in the spirit. Pryor to the Church Epistles is where there was no spirit of Christ available because Acts chapter two had not yet come. So before spirit you had water. If you still have water today than spirit means nothing to you.
no forbidding of water.
If it were your Bible would fall apart because there's nothing in water that makes any sense with what is considered our walk in the spirit. Pryor to the Church Epistles is where there was no spirit of Christ available because Acts chapter two had not yet come. So before spirit you had water. If you still have water today than spirit means nothing to you.
Hi Peldom10, and welcome to CC...
As you're new, allow me to offer a word of caution: it's generally frowned upon to approach a stranger and tell them what they mean. They are likely at least as smart and thoughtful as you, and likely considered their words. Here too, it's better to ask or to offer your own thoughts than to tell them theirs were "wrong".
As you're new, allow me to offer a word of caution: it's generally frowned upon to approach a stranger and tell them what they mean. They are likely at least as smart and thoughtful as you, and likely considered their words. Here too, it's better to ask or to offer your own thoughts than to tell them theirs were "wrong".
-
1
- Show all
Despite the fact that it literally says WATER in Acts. Look here is water, if you believe in Christ you can be BAPTIZED in this said water.
You are IGNORING words in the Bible, you are ignoring Church history and appealing to common sense. You are leaning on your own understanding, thats where the error is, when you say stuff like:
It does make sense, and teh sense is, you are baptized in WATER and SPIRIT. No problem and no confusion. You do know that baptism is part of the great commission? Go into all the nations and baptize them, AND teach them.
You are IGNORING words in the Bible, you are ignoring Church history and appealing to common sense. You are leaning on your own understanding, thats where the error is, when you say stuff like:
It does make sense, and teh sense is, you are baptized in WATER and SPIRIT. No problem and no confusion. You do know that baptism is part of the great commission? Go into all the nations and baptize them, AND teach them.
-
1
- Show all
no forbidding of water baptism and no teaching against water baptism is found anywhere in scripture. So all we know from scripture is what actually is written about it, which is in 100% of cases positive and in fact commanded to be done. There are no scriptural grounds for your argument, Peter, there are only scriptural basis against it.
I disagree with this statement. I think he's neither using nor appealing to common sense. He's using transparently flawed argumentation.
I disagree with this statement. I think he's neither using nor appealing to common sense. He's using transparently flawed argumentation.
-
1
- Show all
no forbidding of water baptism and no teaching against water baptism is found anywhere in scripture. So all we know from scripture is what actually is written about it, which is in 100% of cases positive and in fact commanded to be done. There are no scriptural grounds for your argument, Peter, there are only scriptural basis against it.
I disagree with this statement. I think he's neither using nor appealing to common sense. He's using transparently flawed argumentation.
I disagree with this statement. I think he's neither using nor appealing to common sense. He's using transparently flawed argumentation.
The whole New Testament teaches against water which was an Old Testament concept. Today we have the spirit of God that they did not have before it was given in Acts chapter two. To still think water means something is to not understand the spirit of God that the Epistles written by Paul teach. To think water is necessary can only be believed by those who walk in their own flesh and do not understand that which is spiritual. The New Testament teaches how to walk in the spirit of Christ which is to put on the new man and be in fellowship with God. Water has nothing to do with the new man. It's carnal thinking. Many of you people have called me a fool because I tell you the truth. This is okay with me. It puts me in good company because men did the same thing to Jesus.
-
1
- Show all
I stopped reading your babblings after that bombshell. You just dont know anything about the Scriptures, thats your problem. Maybe its the teaching people to disobey against God's commandments that has blinded you?
Water baptism is always portrayed in a positive light in the NEW TESTAMENT. Give it up, no one who is born again will fall for this. Granted you may lure some unsaved people to your false religion.
Water baptism is always portrayed in a positive light in the NEW TESTAMENT. Give it up, no one who is born again will fall for this. Granted you may lure some unsaved people to your false religion.
