Mystery, Babylon the Great - earthly Jerusalem?
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So.......Jerusalem made the kings of the earth rich?
And Jerusalem was the envoy for all the merchandise of the world?
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C'mon folks,........you have to at least be willing to START to learn about the nature of prophecy.
- - Good grief!
- - - "And Jerusalem made all of the merchants of the earth rich"- - - HOLY SMOKES!!! - (Please buy a clue
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And Jerusalem was the envoy for all the merchandise of the world?
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C'mon folks,........you have to at least be willing to START to learn about the nature of prophecy.
- - Good grief!
- - - "And Jerusalem made all of the merchants of the earth rich"- - - HOLY SMOKES!!! - (Please buy a clue
)
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Romans 11:12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!
So.......Jerusalem made the kings of the earth rich?
And Jerusalem was the envoy for all the merchandise of the world?
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C'mon folks,........you have to at least be willing to START to learn about the nature of prophecy.
- - Good grief!
- - - "And Jerusalem made all of the merchants of the earth rich"- - - HOLY SMOKES!!! - (Please buy a clue)
And Jerusalem was the envoy for all the merchandise of the world?
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C'mon folks,........you have to at least be willing to START to learn about the nature of prophecy.
- - Good grief!
- - - "And Jerusalem made all of the merchants of the earth rich"- - - HOLY SMOKES!!! - (Please buy a clue
)
King Solomon perhaps?
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looking at Revelation 18,
what does it mean to commit "fornication" or to live "luxuriously"?
does it not mean to have sold your soul to idols and your heavenly riches in exchange for worldly rubbish?
Revelation 18
who was she married to? who died to make her a widow?
Who are the merchants of earth who sell the bodies and souls of men? (Revelation 18: 11-13)
If not the Pharisees, the scribes, the priests, ruling class, the Sanherin who cruxified Christ?
Who is responsible for the blood guilt of murdering the prophets and apostles? who does Jesus say their bloods will be required from? Revelation 18 v. 20 and 24
Luke 11:49-51
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]49 [/SUP]Therefore the wisdom of God also said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and persecute,’ [SUP]50 [/SUP]that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation, [SUP]51 [/SUP]from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation.
Matthew 23:34-36
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, [SUP]35 [/SUP]that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
you can argue about exceptions but it is pretty clear that the earthly Jerusalem owes a pretty big blood guilt.
Hagar, the bondwoman and her children are not the same as HEAVENLY Jerusalem or the children of promise.
The holy city does NOT equal Earthly Jerusalem.
what does it mean to commit "fornication" or to live "luxuriously"?
does it not mean to have sold your soul to idols and your heavenly riches in exchange for worldly rubbish?
Revelation 18
who was she married to? who died to make her a widow?
Who are the merchants of earth who sell the bodies and souls of men? (Revelation 18: 11-13)
If not the Pharisees, the scribes, the priests, ruling class, the Sanherin who cruxified Christ?
Who is responsible for the blood guilt of murdering the prophets and apostles? who does Jesus say their bloods will be required from? Revelation 18 v. 20 and 24
Luke 11:49-51
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]49 [/SUP]Therefore the wisdom of God also said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and persecute,’ [SUP]50 [/SUP]that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation, [SUP]51 [/SUP]from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation.
Matthew 23:34-36
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, [SUP]35 [/SUP]that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
you can argue about exceptions but it is pretty clear that the earthly Jerusalem owes a pretty big blood guilt.
Hagar, the bondwoman and her children are not the same as HEAVENLY Jerusalem or the children of promise.
The holy city does NOT equal Earthly Jerusalem.
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He was 900 years before the book of Revelation was written.
- - But don't let that cloud your preconceived vision.
- - - So it was only those Jewish materialists that fulfill the prophecy.
- - - - (Excuse me).................Aaaaaahhh,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!! (You ask for it)
- - But don't let that cloud your preconceived vision.
- - - So it was only those Jewish materialists that fulfill the prophecy.
- - - - (Excuse me).................Aaaaaahhh,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!! (You ask for it)
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Earthly Jerusalem refers not only to the city but also to Hagar and her children.
Those born according to the flesh are children of Hagar. they are part of the old covenant. "Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is" Earthly Jerusalem is equated to covenant made on Mount Sinai and said to be in bondage with her fleshly children.
Just as Ishmael was born first, so was that covenant but God made on Mount Sinai which the people of Israel broke again and again. However, God has made a new covenant and Jesus Christ is our mediator.
We are the children born of the Spirit whose mother is the Heavenly Jerusalem. THIS is the HOLY City.
Do not mistake Hagar with Sarai.
Those born according to the flesh are children of Hagar. they are part of the old covenant. "Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is" Earthly Jerusalem is equated to covenant made on Mount Sinai and said to be in bondage with her fleshly children.
Just as Ishmael was born first, so was that covenant but God made on Mount Sinai which the people of Israel broke again and again. However, God has made a new covenant and Jesus Christ is our mediator.
We are the children born of the Spirit whose mother is the Heavenly Jerusalem. THIS is the HOLY City.
Do not mistake Hagar with Sarai.
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I have yet to see why Babylon in Revelation would NOT refer to Earthly Jerusalem.
the argument that JEsus was cruxified OUTSIDE the city gates and Eygpt and Sodom are outside, doesn't hold water. If you see that blood guilt does not mean WHERE a person was killed but WHO caused their death.
We of course have some proponents who say its in these modern day times or in the future, but that doesn't explain why Jesus says "in this generation"
Some would make that symbolic and then make symbolic things literal.
IF you say that "all blood" in one verse does not apply to "all" you have to use that same logic in another verse that says "all blood". otherwise you aren't really being discerning.
the argument that JEsus was cruxified OUTSIDE the city gates and Eygpt and Sodom are outside, doesn't hold water. If you see that blood guilt does not mean WHERE a person was killed but WHO caused their death.
We of course have some proponents who say its in these modern day times or in the future, but that doesn't explain why Jesus says "in this generation"
Some would make that symbolic and then make symbolic things literal.
IF you say that "all blood" in one verse does not apply to "all" you have to use that same logic in another verse that says "all blood". otherwise you aren't really being discerning.
Was earthly Jerusalem earthly Sodom and Egypt? (Or spiritually Sodom and Egypt - Rev.11:8)
So you say the earthly Jerusalem, (which is spiritually Sodom and Egypt), is Mystery Babylon.
That is your right.
"This generation" means that generation which the Son of God came to and they killed Him.
What next generations did not?
C'mon Ariel.
It's spiritual, cannot you see that?
So you say the earthly Jerusalem, (which is spiritually Sodom and Egypt), is Mystery Babylon.
That is your right.
"This generation" means that generation which the Son of God came to and they killed Him.
What next generations did not?
C'mon Ariel.
It's spiritual, cannot you see that?
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It is your choice to believe that it doesn't.
Those who believe that they were saved by the law are described as the follow:
Those who believe that they were saved by the law are described as the follow:
- 2 Peter 2:18 [ Deceptions of False Teachers ] For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.
- Jude 1:16 [ Apostates Predicted ] These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage.
These are you merchants of a false gospel. these are your false priests and prophets who commit fornication with the Whore of Babylon.
Yes its spiritual and I do not understand why you can't see it.
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