here's one of israel's prophets (all the Apostles were clearly also prophets):
Acts 3
Peter Speaks in Solomon’s Portico
11While he clung to Peter and John, all the people, utterly astounded, ran together to them in the portico called Solomon’s. 12And when Peter saw it he addressed the people: “Men of Israel, why do you wonder at this, or why do you stare at us, as though by our own power or piety we have made him walk? 13The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified his servantb Jesus, whom you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release him. 14But you denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, 15and you killed the Author of life, whom God raised from the dead. To this we are witnesses. 16And his name—by faith in his name—has made this man strong whom you see and know, and the faith that is through Jesusc has given the man this perfect health in the presence of you all.
17“And now, brothers, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18But what God foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that his Christ would suffer, he thus fulfilled. 19Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, 20that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, 21whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago. 22Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. 23And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’ 24And all the prophets who have spoken, from Samuel and those who came after him, also proclaimed these days. 25You are the sons of the prophets and of the covenant that God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your offspring shall all the families of the earth be blessed.’ 26God, having raised up his servant, sent him to you first, to bless you by turning every one of you from your wickedness.”
okay..that's really clear.
Peter said all the prophets proclaimed those days - the very days Peter was living in.
look how many times he talks to Israel about their prophets.
"Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’ And all the prophets who have spoken, from Samuel and those who came after him, also proclaimed these days."
did this actually happen?
well, yes, it did.
the ones who did not listen and repent, were destroyed.
peter said all the prophets from Samuel all the way to Jesus the Last Prophet proclaimed THOSE days.
the days peter was in...warning them about what would happen if they didn't REPENT and be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
and it did. didn't it?
how is it we skip over what God caused to pass?
this makes me scratch my head.
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still just looking to see who Jesus said was responsible for the blood of
the prophets.
unless we agree (and i don't) there's been a continuation of the office of prophet (Old and/or New) and prophets have been being killed in a particular modern city or mystical world city, who killed the prophets?
did any of the reformers persecuted by the Papacy claim to be prophets?
anyways.....
according to Jesus - whose prophets were they? to whom were they sent?
Matthew 21
The Parable of the Tenants
33“Hear another parable. There was a master of a house who planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a winepress in it and built a tower and leased it to tenants, and went into another country. 34When the season for fruit drew near, he sent his servantsc to the tenants to get his fruit. 35And the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. 36Again he sent other servants, more than the first. And they did the same to them. 37
Finally he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ 39 And they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. 40When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” 41They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”
is the above passage referring to anyone but the wicked chief priests; scribes and Pharisees; rulers and unbelievers of Israel?
no, of course not.
Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of israel.
He sheep knew Him, heard His voice and followed Him.
He said some did not hear Him, because the were not His sheep.
He also said he had other sheep (gentiles) that were not of that fold - Israel.
and He would bring them also.
and He did, and is
He did not travel anywhere but that region. He didn't go to the United nations or anywhere else.
no prophets have been killed by the UN; or NY cops; or as far as i know, the Papacy killed tons of people, but none of israel's prophets
(NOTE: disclaimer - the Papacy
is antichrist...horrible awful antichrist....k? really bad horrible antichrist.....but there are many antichrists, and many instead-of christs (false christs))
Jesus clearly said above, the Father had sent
many servants (prophets) to them, and they mistreated or killed them all. WHO DID?
(we already know Jesus referred to Himself as Prophet)
He was sent to Israel, that's where He walked and taught; and that's where He was killed.
some believed and some did not.
and they continued to persecute the faithful:
Acts 12
1Now about that time
Herod the king laid hands on some who belonged to the church in order to mistreat them. 2And he had James the brother of John put to death with a sword
The Herods had made themselves kings of the Jews, and had supporters.
Acts 4
1And as they were speaking to the people, the priests and the captain of the temple and the Sadducees came upon them, 2greatly annoyed because they were teaching the people and proclaiming in Jesus the resurrection from the dead. 3And they arrested them and put them in custody until the next day, for it was already evening. 4But many of those who had heard the word believed, and the number of the men came to about five thousand.
5On the next day their rulers and elders and scribes gathered together in Jerusalem, 6with Annas the high priest and Caiaphas and John and Alexander, and all who were of the high-priestly family. 7And when they had set them in the midst, they inquired, “By what power or by what name did you do this?”
8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders, 9if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, 10let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11This Jesusa is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.b 12And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
13Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus. 14But seeing the man who was healed standing beside them, they had nothing to say in opposition.
15But when they had commanded them to leave the council, they conferred with one another, 16saying, “What shall we do with these men? For that a notable sign has been performed through them is evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it.
17But in order that it may spread no further among the people, let us warn them to speak no more to anyone in this name.” 18So they called them and charged them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, 20for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.” 21And when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding no way to punish them, because of the people, for all were praising God for what had happened. 22For the man on whom this sign of healing was performed was more than forty years old.
23When they were released, they went to their friends and reported what the chief priests and the elders had said to them. 24And when they heard it, they lifted their voices together to God and said, “Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them, 25 who through the mouth of our father David, your servant, said by the Holy Spirit,
“‘Why did the Gentiles rage,
and the peoples plot in vain?
26 The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers were gathered together,
against the Lord and against his Anointed’—
27 for truly in this city there were gathered together
against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed,
both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, 28 to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place.
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for truly in this city (Jerusalem)
there were gathered together (and the rulers were gathered together)
against
your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, (the Lord and against his Anointed)
both Herod and Pontius Pilate along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel (The kings of the earth.....and the rulers were gathered together)
[Rome & Herods; and their respective sympathizers and comrades]
to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place.
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“‘Why did the Gentiles rage,
and the peoples plot in vain?
so, is it at least reasonable to say that the unfaithful Israelites, in Jerusalem, at that time, who
conspired with the Romans......
were committing adultery with the nations (gentiles/romans)?
