Myths and Realities about Easter

  • Thread starter RachelBibleStudent
  • Start date
  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
May 18, 2010
931
15
18
#61
loveme1

"REALITY: Easter and Ishtar only sound alike.">>>> Is this enough to convince you???




easter is not Biblical and this lady could not prove it with the Bible.

So she wrote you an essay instead.....
Look at you, sit down and take a look at your rep power, everyone knows you're wrong, oh, well,
that is everyone except yourself. Since a wise man will hear and increase in learning, you can almost
already know that a fool would hate reproof and also despise wisdom.Yet you say Rachel is deceiving
as though the realities were in place of the myths. More over, wisdom comes easily to those of
understanding. If every Christian wants to celebrate Easter for no reason other than the
Resurrection of Christ Jesus, all while making it fun for the kids and to enjoy a gathering,
let it be, I am not God, but highly doubt He would see any wrong in that.
 

Elizabeth619

Senior Member
Jul 19, 2011
6,397
109
48
#62
Look at you, sit down and take a look at your rep power, everyone knows you're wrong, oh, well,
that is everyone except yourself. Since a wise man will hear and increase in learning, you can almost
already know that a fool would hate reproof and also despise wisdom.Yet you say Rachel is deceiving
as though the realities were in place of the myths. More over, wisdom comes easily to those of
understanding. If every Christian wants to celebrate Easter for no reason other than the
Resurrection of Christ Jesus, all while making it fun for the kids and to enjoy a gathering,
let it be, I am not God, but highly doubt He would see any wrong in that.

Can I hug you?
 

loveme1

Senior Member
Oct 30, 2011
8,083
190
63
#63
Look at you, sit down and take a look at your rep power, everyone knows you're wrong, oh, well,
that is everyone except yourself. Since a wise man will hear and increase in learning, you can almost
already know that a fool would hate reproof and also despise wisdom.Yet you say Rachel is deceiving
as though the realities were in place of the myths. More over, wisdom comes easily to those of
understanding. If every Christian wants to celebrate Easter for no reason other than the
Resurrection of Christ Jesus, all while making it fun for the kids and to enjoy a gathering,
let it be, I am not God, but highly doubt He would see any wrong in that.
No you are not Yahvah God, and why not find out if he see's it right or wrong by reading the Bible.

Let the Bible be right............

Rep power? I am not here to exalt myself, that is why it is turned off...............

"a fool would hate reproof" yes that is true, but the question is : who is the fool?

Speaking the truth means going against the lie, and in this world that is always going to come against ego..

If you come along and speak what people want you to hear, then you may get hugged a lot.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
#64
Wow, I just did a major Easter teaching. would have been good for this. This is what happens when man gets ahold of things and tries to do things on his own.

1. Easter in many of its practices does represent, or resemble pagan practices concerning the spring season. all I can say is, who cares.
2. It is said, and become popularly well known, that it it continuation of the "passover" as worshiped by the Jewish nation, Many called it "pashca" the greek form of the hebrew word which means passover.
3. The dates vary, it began by using Hebrew calendars to determine when passover would be, however jews in differing parts of the world had different calendars which do not coincide, so no agreement could be come to. Even today, the east and west celebrate different days using different calendars, as they can not even agree on this (one is too proud to give up her date)
4. It is said to be scriptural sound, as the last supper of Jesus was on passover week. and we should continue this tradition to celebrate the Lords death, the real passover, as because of Christ's death, God will "pass over" us on judgment day. (I have heard this at least)
5. It is preceded by many churches, including the one who started by lent. A season in the religeous calendar where people are urged to clean themselves up and become spirituall pure for the "most holy day" and ends with a mass and the Easter Eucharist (I can not prove this would need verification, but I have read that in early days, The father woud have an egg painted red, which signified somethign to do with Christ. and this is where the eggs come from.

Now lets look at scripture.

1. When did Jesus tell us to celebrate this season? to remember his sacrifice?

"do OFTEN in REMEMBRANCE OF ME"

If there is ANY scripture which does not support Easter. this is ALL you need. We should celebrate Easter "OFTEN" as we remember the true passover bought and paid for by Gods son. Not once a year.

Now. does this mean we should not use easter for God? Is God unable to use this to his glory (even though it is not from him?)

I know many who either came to Christ, or who rededicated their lives to Christ during the Easter and Christmas (another major fight) seasons. God has used this in a most powerful way, As he said, ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD to those who LOVE HIM. God has used these holidays, and those who love him , to turn things into good and bring many lives to him.

so why are we even fighting about this? This is where Satan causes bickering, and people to look in and say, look at these Christians, all they do is fight, and they want us to join them??
 

WomanLovesTX

Senior Member
Jan 1, 2010
1,390
38
0
#65
NEW - Jim Staley -Truth or Tradition - "Should Christians Celebrate Christmas and Easter?" - YouTube

Doing Bible things Bible ways. Do you understand why you do the things you do? Does it matter how sincere we are when we act in disobedience?

We can be sincerely wrong. If we are not doing God's way, then we are not being obedient.

So if you say I don't care what God says...He knows my sincere heart and why I celebrate things that are not of Him...

If you are maturing in your faith, you will know what to do with those events that are not God's.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
#66
NEW - Jim Staley -Truth or Tradition - "Should Christians Celebrate Christmas and Easter?" - YouTube

Doing Bible things Bible ways. Do you understand why you do the things you do? Does it matter how sincere we are when we act in disobedience?

We can be sincerely wrong. If we are not doing God's way, then we are not being obedient.

So if you say I don't care what God says...He knows my sincere heart and why I celebrate things that are not of Him...

If you are maturing in your faith, you will know what to do with those events that are not God's.
So if I take a day, and celebrate the ressurection of my savior. Even though God did not command me to do it. and even though it came from pagan ritual and belief. and not truely what it is said to represent. And use this day to bring others to Christ (which I have done) and help others understand what Christ did. Just because Christ did not tell me too. I am in sin?

In other words. God can not take what was done outside of his will, and use it for his own good?

WOW!
 

WomanLovesTX

Senior Member
Jan 1, 2010
1,390
38
0
#67
So if I take a day, and celebrate the ressurection of my savior. Even though God did not command me to do it. and even though it came from pagan ritual and belief. and not truely what it is said to represent. And use this day to bring others to Christ (which I have done) and help others understand what Christ did. Just because Christ did not tell me too. I am in sin?

In other words. God can not take what was done outside of his will, and use it for his own good?

WOW!
The Sons of God married the daughters of Adam and this was an UNHOLY matrimony. The mixing of seeds. To teach others about who Christ is and to mix it with a pagan religion and holiday is the mixing of Holy with unholy. What happens when you mix a little dog poop in with the bread? You obviously eat it up and enjoy every morsel of it. Go for it!! And yes, God's Will will prevail, with your unholy mixing or without it. But how much better it is to drop the unholy and present Christ as our Passover Lamb and not the easter resurrection fable.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
#68
The Sons of God married the daughters of Adam and this was an UNHOLY matrimony. The mixing of seeds. To teach others about who Christ is and to mix it with a pagan religion and holiday is the mixing of Holy with unholy. What happens when you mix a little dog poop in with the bread? You obviously eat it up and enjoy every morsel of it. Go for it!! And yes, God's Will will prevail, with your unholy mixing or without it. But how much better it is to drop the unholy and present Christ as our Passover Lamb and not the easter resurrection fable.
You assume I worship the Easter pagan fable. You would be wrong in your assumptions and judgments. And your saying Christ did not resurrect? That that is all a fable? Wow. maybe that is the problem. If Christ was not resurrected. We are all doing this for nothing!

This is why people hate Christians. we fight over stupid stuff. Instead of looking for the love of God. we have to pervert everything and judge everything we do not agree with.
 

WomanLovesTX

Senior Member
Jan 1, 2010
1,390
38
0
#69
You assume I worship the Easter pagan fable. You would be wrong in your assumptions and judgments. And your saying Christ did not resurrect? That that is all a fable? Wow. maybe that is the problem. If Christ was not resurrected. We are all doing this for nothing!

This is why people hate Christians. we fight over stupid stuff. Instead of looking for the love of God. we have to pervert everything and judge everything we do not agree with.
Now you are getting weird! and You are not making any sense. If your heart is not pricked with the truth, and you want to say things like Christ never resurrected or accuse me of saying such, which is not so, then go for your unholy poop.

Y'shua is our Passover Lamb. Y'shua was cruxified on Nisan 14th, a Wednesday and was taken down from the cross before the High Sabbath at sundown. The High Sabbath at sundown was the beginning of Nisan 15th - The Feast of Unleavened Bread - a Feast that has no work on the first day, that being Nisan 15th, and goes for 7 days and ending on the 21st as another High Sabbath of no work.

Y'shua was in the grave for 3 nights and 3 days. He was already resurrected on the first day of the week when the women came to the tomb. On Sunday, which is the first day of the week, and the day of First Fruits, Y'shua spoke with Mary....

Joh 20:9 For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
Joh 20:10 Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
Joh 20:11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,
Joh 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
Joh 20:13 And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
Joh 20:14 And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.
Joh 20:15 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
Joh 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Y'shua was resurrected after 3 nights and 3 days in the grave. Our Saviour is RISEN! And He presented Himself to God as our First Fruits.

This is the beautiful and Holy story of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Easter resurrection sunrise service is rooted in pagan traditiions to celebrate their sun god and female goddess. It is the very fact that Easter is embedded in paganism and that Satan loves to use his days to impersonate God's Holy days.

Keep them separate. That is the pagan rooted festivals which are disguised in saying "Oh, they are for Jesus" and keep the true and living Word of God, the story of Y'shua as our Passover Lamb, and our First Fruits presented on that first Sunday after Passover.

Then, to make satan win his victory even further, most Christians don't know the story of Christ as presented in the whole of God's Word, and they do not even know when Pentecost is each year or how it is derived. To know God's Word is to know God Himself. To allow Satan to enter into the church, indoctrinate the fellowship with pagan rooted festivals, shade it over and say you now have taken satan's holidays and colored in the Messiah to it and think that satisfies God is foolishness.

Eternally grateful...please don't be foolish any longer. I am praying that your eyes will see the truth and you will repent of mixing the unholy with the holy.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
#70
Now you are getting weird! and You are not making any sense. If your heart is not pricked with the truth, and you want to say things like Christ never resurrected or accuse me of saying such, which is not so, then go for your unholy poop.

Y'shua is our Passover Lamb. Y'shua was cruxified on Nisan 14th, a Wednesday and was taken down from the cross before the High Sabbath at sundown. The High Sabbath at sundown was the beginning of Nisan 15th - The Feast of Unleavened Bread - a Feast that has no work on the first day, that being Nisan 15th, and goes for 7 days and ending on the 21st as another High Sabbath of no work.

Y'shua was in the grave for 3 nights and 3 days. He was already resurrected on the first day of the week when the women came to the tomb. On Sunday, which is the first day of the week, and the day of First Fruits, Y'shua spoke with Mary....

Joh 20:9 For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
Joh 20:10 Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
Joh 20:11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,
Joh 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
Joh 20:13 And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
Joh 20:14 And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.
Joh 20:15 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
Joh 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Y'shua was resurrected after 3 nights and 3 days in the grave. Our Saviour is RISEN! And He presented Himself to God as our First Fruits.

This is the beautiful and Holy story of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Easter resurrection sunrise service is rooted in pagan traditiions to celebrate their sun god and female goddess. It is the very fact that Easter is embedded in paganism and that Satan loves to use his days to impersonate God's Holy days.

Keep them separate. That is the pagan rooted festivals which are disguised in saying "Oh, they are for Jesus" and keep the true and living Word of God, the story of Y'shua as our Passover Lamb, and our First Fruits presented on that first Sunday after Passover.

Then, to make satan win his victory even further, most Christians don't know the story of Christ as presented in the whole of God's Word, and they do not even know when Pentecost is each year or how it is derived. To know God's Word is to know God Himself. To allow Satan to enter into the church, indoctrinate the fellowship with pagan rooted festivals, shade it over and say you now have taken satan's holidays and colored in the Messiah to it and think that satisfies God is foolishness.

Eternally grateful...please don't be foolish any longer. I am praying that your eyes will see the truth and you will repent of mixing the unholy with the holy.
You evidently did not read a thing I posted concerning Easter. If your not going to read it and understand what I said. then don't bother replying, or at least ask questions instead of coming back with a judgmental attitude. I agreed with you about what Easter really is.

I have seen truth. I do as God commanded me, and I take communion OFTEN in remembrance of him. (this was given to Gods people, not meant for the world) Not once a year, as Easter says.

But I am not foolish enough to think God can use what was made by men to his own glory, he has done it since time began, and he will do it long after I am gone from this earth.

But if God can use an Easter Sunday to bring those outside the world not exposed to communion. They who am I to argue and fight against it?
 

WomanLovesTX

Senior Member
Jan 1, 2010
1,390
38
0
#71
You evidently did not read a thing I posted concerning Easter. If your not going to read it and understand what I said. then don't bother replying, or at least ask questions instead of coming back with a judgmental attitude. I agreed with you about what Easter really is.

I have seen truth. I do as God commanded me, and I take communion OFTEN in remembrance of him. (this was given to Gods people, not meant for the world) Not once a year, as Easter says.

But I am not foolish enough to think God can use what was made by men to his own glory, he has done it since time began, and he will do it long after I am gone from this earth.

But if God can use an Easter Sunday to bring those outside the world not exposed to communion. They who am I to argue and fight against it?
Point taken. You don't care as you said in your posting regarding Easter. I cared enough to point out that it is unholy and you cannot mix poison with good food and expect not to get sick.
 

Elizabeth619

Senior Member
Jul 19, 2011
6,397
109
48
#72
Yes, yes. Easter is unholy. Because of pagan rituals.... just as unholy as the traditional wedding cerimoeny that has strong pagan backgrounds, the wedding ring to symoblize a woman enslaved to her husband....the cross, and the jesus fish is also pagan.....all unholiness as i have said before...yet i wonder how many anti-easter bunny peeps are ok with these symbols............................................


MORNING EG!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
 
Oct 12, 2011
1,123
3
0
#73
Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.


Rom 14:20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
Rom 14:22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.


Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Blessings
 

loveme1

Senior Member
Oct 30, 2011
8,083
190
63
#74
Why is it so difficult for people to stop following man, and return to Almighty Yahvah God?



This lady could not support "easter" with the Bible so she wrote an essay... don't rely on man's knowledge of history, the Bible is our truth.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
#75
Point taken. You don't care as you said in your posting regarding Easter. I cared enough to point out that it is unholy and you cannot mix poison with good food and expect not to get sick.
No, not even that is what I said. I said it is not biblical. But if God can use it, which he does, why should we fight against it?

I am not saying we should celebrate it like the roman catholics and others like them do. That is in grave error.

I am saying I know many churches who take the opportunity to spread the gospel to people who would not normally attend. And refresh others as to what Christ did. I did that in my easter teaching. And was thanked by many for answering tough questions, and playing it hard. These people were still questioning God and salvation. Now they have a far greater chance of recieving him. A chance I would not have had if I stuck to our teaching rotation and finished out corinthians.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
#76
Yes, yes. Easter is unholy. Because of pagan rituals.... just as unholy as the traditional wedding cerimoeny that has strong pagan backgrounds, the wedding ring to symoblize a woman enslaved to her husband....the cross, and the jesus fish is also pagan.....all unholiness as i have said before...yet i wonder how many anti-easter bunny peeps are ok with these symbols............................................


MORNING EG!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
lol nice points you made there!! Glad you took the tape of for a second to chime in :)

Sorry I missed your morning, But good afternoon!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
 

Elizabeth619

Senior Member
Jul 19, 2011
6,397
109
48
#77
lol nice points you made there!! Glad you took the tape of for a second to chime in :)

Sorry I missed your morning, But good afternoon!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Hi darlin.

Some people need to educate themselves before typing things....thats all im sayin ;)
 

WomanLovesTX

Senior Member
Jan 1, 2010
1,390
38
0
#78
No, not even that is what I said. I said it is not biblical. But if God can use it, which he does, why should we fight against it?

I am not saying we should celebrate it like the roman catholics and others like them do. That is in grave error.

I am saying I know many churches who take the opportunity to spread the gospel to people who would not normally attend. And refresh others as to what Christ did. I did that in my easter teaching. And was thanked by many for answering tough questions, and playing it hard. These people were still questioning God and salvation. Now they have a far greater chance of recieving him. A chance I would not have had if I stuck to our teaching rotation and finished out corinthians.
My apology. I believe I understand what you are saying now. Yes, God will do whatever it takes to draw in the unbeliever to His truth. Sorry to say they have to go down the half-truth or a lie to get them there. I was raised in Christian Southern Baptist and after several years of being out of the regular drumming of that brand of teaching, the truth shown brightly that all that is taught in that mainstream traditional church is not Full Testament and full covenant with Christ "renewing" the covenant. If it hadn't been for going to 5 years of Ladies Bible Study, a non-denominational event for women of all denominations where we studied one year a book from the Old Testament and then the next year followed with a study of a New Testament book, then back and forth and so forth. The things I learned in the Old Testament tie in perfectly with the New Testament and so I encourage all to see Y'shua Messiah in the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. Knowing what I know now, I cannot lead others to Christ through a teaching of Easter or Christmas or New Testament only theology. God's Words are magnificent...ALL of it!
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
#79
Hi darlin.

Some people need to educate themselves before typing things....thats all im sayin ;)
how right you are. It is amazing how they pick and choose what to argue about, when other stuff is just the same..lol
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
#80
My apology. I believe I understand what you are saying now. Yes, God will do whatever it takes to draw in the unbeliever to His truth. Sorry to say they have to go down the half-truth or a lie to get them there. I was raised in Christian Southern Baptist and after several years of being out of the regular drumming of that brand of teaching, the truth shown brightly that all that is taught in that mainstream traditional church is not Full Testament and full covenant with Christ "renewing" the covenant. If it hadn't been for going to 5 years of Ladies Bible Study, a non-denominational event for women of all denominations where we studied one year a book from the Old Testament and then the next year followed with a study of a New Testament book, then back and forth and so forth. The things I learned in the Old Testament tie in perfectly with the New Testament and so I encourage all to see Y'shua Messiah in the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. Knowing what I know now, I cannot lead others to Christ through a teaching of Easter or Christmas or New Testament only theology. God's Words are magnificent...ALL of it!

I grew up Baptist also. Am also now in a non denominational.

However. I did not see the easter misused in any way by any baptist church I went to. I did see many come to Christ at that time.

Many people only go to church on Christmas and easter. If we can use it to Gods advantage, I say we should, is all I am saying.