Neat discovery about 12,000

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If you divide 12000 by 666, you get 18, the number of years that the Israelites were enslaved to the pagans in Judges 3;14 & 10;8 as a consequence of their disobedience.

If you divide 144000 by 666, you get roughly 250, the number of men consumed by fire for disobedience in Korah's rebellion against Moses.

Which proves precisely nothing.
 
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Unfortunately you guys who are not seeing the significance of the OP's post are missing the whole intent of worshiping God. I see what the OP saw, and so did a few others.

Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
 
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Gjolll said:
If you divide 12000 by 666, you get 18, the number of years that the Israelites were enslaved to the pagans in Judges 3;14 & 10;8 as a consequence of their disobedience.

If you divide 144000 by 666, you get roughly 250, the number of men consumed by fire for disobedience in Korah's rebellion against Moses.

Which proves precisely nothing.
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Sorry but I must correct your math. Take your calculator and punch in 144,000 and then divide it by 666. you will get precisely 216.216216216216216216.....

Now what interesting about 216 is that it is 6x6x6 or simply put 6 cubed. The song of the 144,000 also sing about the destruction of the beast. Its as if 666 is divided and multiplied against itself and destroyed forever as 216 repeats itself forever.
 
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Miktre when you start putting out truth, you can be 100% assured persecution will follow lol.
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Poor man. Now insults are considered persecution? I guess the believers in other countries that are jailed and killed should stop their whining?
 
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Poor man. Now insults are considered persecution? I guess the believers in other countries that are jailed and killed should stop their whining?
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He said "persecution will follow", he was just saying that what I was saying was truth and it could very well someday lead to people to do more than just speaking evil of me.
Mat_5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
 
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This cult junk you keep talking about is way out there in left field. Lol

You are the correct the meanings of the numbers aren't for everyone as you can see with this verse here and it's probably why you find them troubling:
Rev_13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
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AND all that 666 amounts to is a number that identifies a specific individual. In fact Henry Kissinger invented such a numbering system several years ago, to be used in an emergency to replace money world wide, in the event that there is a world wide collapse of the World Banks. It was on the news and was tested in Australia. In it's final form, it will most likely be assigning numbers that are made up of "6 digits - 6 digits - 6 digits" similar to our Social Security Numbers. For example: 123456-123456-123456 and then all bank accounts for the entire population of the World could theoretically be controlled by ONE super computer. The first set of 6 numbers identifies the City that is connected to the mailing address, the second 6 would be similar to a GPS location of the residence, and the last 6 is the specific individual in that residence. THAT IS AT THIS POINT ONLY a contingency Plan for a potential World Wide Economic Collapse.

Has such a plan already been implemented? Not that I know of. Was Henry Kissinger's test wide spread? NO, from the article I read back in the late 90s, it was a limited number of volunteers who tested it, when they were expecting the Y2K CRASH. It validated that it could be done without errors, but those now outdated computers, did not have enough memory space or speed to do it world wide. Are the super computers of today large enough to handle the Task of replacing money world wide? You be the judge: | WBUR & NPR Has one been officially nicknamed the Beast? Not that I know of, that appears to be only the rumors of conspiracy theorists. However, I am sure a lot of Computer Techs JOKINGLY referred to their personal brain child as the Beast, but NOTHING OFFICIAL has shown up in the news that I know of. Where does that leave us in conclusion? The Super Computer "6 digits - 6 digits - 6 digits" solution to a World Wide Economic Collapse is not only NOW Probable, it is NOW also technically Possible.

NO WAY does the number of the Beast, justify searching for hidden secrets in numbers. THAT IS WHAT THE CULTS DO.
 
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NO WAY does the number of the Beast, justify searching for hidden secrets in numbers. THAT IS WHAT THE CULTS DO.
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Maybe its only hidden from those without God's wisdom and understanding.
Rev_13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Pray for it
 
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Gjolll said:
If you divide 12000 by 666, you get 18, the number of years that the Israelites were enslaved to the pagans in Judges 3;14 & 10;8 as a consequence of their disobedience.

If you divide 144000 by 666, you get roughly 250, the number of men consumed by fire for disobedience in Korah's rebellion against Moses.

Which proves precisely nothing.
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Good Point!

And if you take 512,626 times the 12 months, you get 6,151,512; and then if you drop the commas and hyphenate every two numbers after the first one, you get: 6-15-15-12. THEN amazingly, if you replace those four numbers with the corresponding numerical sequence letter of the alphabet, YOU WILL DISCOVER what GOD thinks of Numerology.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
 
KJV1611

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Poor man. Now insults are considered persecution? I guess the believers in other countries that are jailed and killed should stop their whining?
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per·se·cute - subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, esp. because of their race or political or religious beliefs.
 
KJV1611

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The thing that was is the thing that shall be... the flesh has always hated the spirit, especially when the spirit speaks.

Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
 
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Maybe its only hidden from those without God's wisdom and understanding.
Rev_13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Pray for it
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LOOK at what it says, and get your eyes off numbers, if you truly want to be wise.

Psalm 19:7 (ESV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;

Proverbs 14:16 (HCSB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] A wise man is cautious and turns from evil, but a fool is easily angered and is careless.

Proverbs 12:15 (ESV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.

Proverbs 21:11 (ESV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] When a scoffer is punished, the simple becomes wise; when a wise man is instructed, he gains knowledge.

Job 28:28 (ASV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; And to depart from evil is understanding.

Proverbs 2:1-6 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;
[SUP]2 [/SUP] So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
[SUP]4 [/SUP] If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

Acts 17:11 (NIV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

The Quest of hidden knowledge in numbers is a FALSE DOCTRINE, that is NOT how you gain Wisdom.
 
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Sorry, you cannot simply discount Biblical numbers and it is not false teaching. The Hebrew language is built on numerology and pictographs and most time those pictographs also stand for a number.

The number 40 in the Bible is synonymous with testing or trial. 7 is the number of perfection. 6 is the number of man. These are not secret hidden meanings, they are part of the deep mysteries of God, and anyway who understands the Hebrew language would embrace such knowledge.

Another thing people never do is look at the meanings of the names of people and places and things in the Old Testament. The meanings of the names of people and places and things in the Old Testament give us untold revelation and show us the concealed Christ.
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Well said! :)
 
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LOOK at what it says, and get your eyes off numbers, if you truly want to be wise.

Psalm 19:7 (ESV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;

Proverbs 14:16 (HCSB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] A wise man is cautious and turns from evil, but a fool is easily angered and is careless.

Proverbs 12:15 (ESV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.

Proverbs 21:11 (ESV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] When a scoffer is punished, the simple becomes wise; when a wise man is instructed, he gains knowledge.

Job 28:28 (ASV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; And to depart from evil is understanding.

Proverbs 2:1-6 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;
[SUP]2 [/SUP] So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
[SUP]4 [/SUP] If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

Acts 17:11 (NIV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

The Quest of hidden knowledge in numbers is a FALSE DOCTRINE, that is NOT how you gain Wisdom.
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Rev_21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits(144), according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
Gods numbers are so wonderful though!

man=6th day creation 6 X 24hours= 144!


Day is as a thousand years and vice versa =144,000 = Man redeemed!

2Pe_3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
 
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You've got to be joking, yuk Certainly not the song of the 144,000
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Do you realize that the 144,000 are EXACTLY who GOD said they were? All will be JEWS, and Equal number from each LITERAL tribe of Israel? They will be Sealed in their mortal bodies during the Great Tribulation, so that they can repopulate HIS KINGDOM as HE rules from David's Throne. What happened to the REST? All of those who are not part of the 144,000 who turn to Receive Yeshua as Messiah and LORD, will become part of the martyred (beheaded) Tribulation Saints, and all the REST who do receive the mark of the Beast (probably an implanted mini-microchip the size of a grain of salt), will be killed by His WORD at HIS Second Coming:

Revelation 19:21 (HCSB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] The rest were killed with the sword that came from the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.
 
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Do you realize that the 144,000 are EXACTLY who GOD said they were? All will be JEWS, and Equal number from each LITERAL tribe of Israel? They will be Sealed in their mortal bodies during the Great Tribulation, so that they can repopulate HIS KINGDOM as HE rules from David's Throne. What happened to the REST? All of those who are not part of the 144,000 who turn to Receive Yeshua as Messiah and LORD, will become part of the martyred (beheaded) Tribulation Saints, and all the REST who do receive the mark of the Beast (probably an implanted mini-microchip the size of a grain of salt), will be killed by His WORD at HIS Second Coming:
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Tell me something I haven't heard a million times, still not the song.
 
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miktre said:
Rev_21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits(144), according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
Gods numbers are so wonderful though!

man=6th day creation 6 X 24hours= 144!


Day is as a thousand years and vice versa =144,000 = Man redeemed!

2Pe_3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
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GOOD GRIEF, don't you even know what a cubit is?
Have you NEVER done any carpentry work and forgotten you tape measure?

"The cubit is an archaic unit of length based on the length of the forearm from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger."
Cubit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

HENCE it truly is "the measure of a man", because it is how they measured things back then when they did not have a measuring rod, and most of us still use it today occasionally, when we have forgotten our tape ruler. All that tells us is that the angel was of the same size as an average size man.

QUOTE miktre: "God's numbers are so wonderful though!"

Don't you see how you have already been deceived by that numerology lie?
ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS SHOULD BE SAYING:
GOD's WORD is so Wonderful though!

Oh how I wish you could get that excited about HIS WORD and DOING IT.

John 14:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Think about it, who wants you to get excited about the numbers in the Bible instead of His Commandments?

 
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GOOD GRIEF, don't you even know what a cubit is?
Have you NEVER done any carpentry work and forgotten you tape measure?

"The cubit is an archaic unit of length based on the length of the forearm from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger."
Cubit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

HENCE it truly is "the measure of a man", because it is how they measured things back then when they did not have a measuring rod, and most of us still use it today occasionally, when we have forgotten our tape ruler. All that tells us is that the angel was of the same size as an average size man.

QUOTE miktre: "God's numbers are so wonderful though!"

Don't you see how you have already been deceived by that numerology lie?
ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS SHOULD BE SAYING:
GOD's WORD is so Wonderful though!

Oh how I wish you could get that excited about HIS WORD and DOING IT.

John 14:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Think about it, who wants you to get excited about the numbers in the Bible instead of His Commandments?
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Do they measure cubits with numbers? LoL you are funny.
I got the numbers from God's word silly. I love Gods word its exciting to read.
Heres a little tip on where you can find the 10 commandments. They are in exodus, the 2nd book of the Bible 2X10 =20 Exodus ch 20! ftw!!!
 
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The_highwayman said:
Sorry, you cannot simply discount Biblical numbers and it is not false teaching. The Hebrew language is built on numerology and pictographs and most time those pictographs also stand for a number.

The number 40 in the Bible is synonymous with testing or trial. 7 is the number of perfection. 6 is the number of man. These are not secret hidden meanings, they are part of the deep mysteries of God, and anyway who understands the Hebrew language would embrace such knowledge.

Another thing people never do is look at the meanings of the names of people and places and things in the Old Testament. The meanings of the names of people and places and things in the Old Testament give us untold revelation and show us the concealed Christ.
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Numerology is NOT how my Bible says we gain knowledge of the Deep Mysteries of GOD.

1 Corinthians 2:10 (NKJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
 
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