Neat Discovery About John 3:13
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There are no mistakes or errors in God's holy word. God cannot lie.
Every word of God is pure (Proverbs 30:5)
I see your still putting your vain intellect over the Authority of God's word.
I suggest you repent of your sin and pride before it is too late.
I don't deny this. God used the Tyndale Bible greatly, He also used the Bishop's Bible, the Great Bible, Coverdale's Bible, Geneva Bible and so forth.
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For this Covenant, YES and technically even for the Jews who will be saved, BUT THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED, YET! THOSE WHO HAVE RECEIVED JESUS CHRIST AS LORD INSTANTLY INSTANTLY BECOME PART OF THE CHURCH. BUT the THIRD TEMPLE will be Built by JEWS who do not Know Jesus as LORD after the Church, the Bride of Christ, is called out to the Wedding, and after a 7 year piece Treaty is signed with Israel most likely giving them permission to build. Then after it is built, come the TWO WITNESSES who will lead MOST of the Jews in ISRAEL to BELIEVE IN HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED. Because of the Bible states that it is given unto every man once to die (with the exception of those of us alive when HE RAISES THE DEAD IN CHRIST); I believe the Mostly Likely candidates to become those TWO WITNESSES, ARE Enoch and Elijah. AND that would explain why so many JEWS turn to believe in JESUS as Messiah so quickly.
Why do you NOT understand the THIRD TEMPLE does not have to be BUILT by those who already recognize JESUS as their Messiah. A LOT of people will be saved, Jews and Gentiles, during the Great Tribulation after the Church is called out to go to the Wedding of the Lamb; but most of them will be beheaded by the Antichrist for not bowing to him as god. IT IS NOT A SECOND COMING when His feet do not touch the Mt. of Olives. It is the APPEARING when we are called out to Go to the New Dwelling Place that is required for Every Jewish Bridegroom to built in His Father's House where the Wedding will take place for one week.
Besides all of that, the JEWS ALREADY HAVE STARTED THE WORK ON THE THIRD TEMPLE.
3rd Temple Replicate Under Construction To Teach Levite Priests In Israel - YouTube
Sneak Peak: The New Temple Institute Visitor Center in Jerusalem - YouTube
The rabbi, the lost ark and the future of Temple Mount - Telegraph
Why do you NOT understand the THIRD TEMPLE does not have to be BUILT by those who already recognize JESUS as their Messiah. A LOT of people will be saved, Jews and Gentiles, during the Great Tribulation after the Church is called out to go to the Wedding of the Lamb; but most of them will be beheaded by the Antichrist for not bowing to him as god. IT IS NOT A SECOND COMING when His feet do not touch the Mt. of Olives. It is the APPEARING when we are called out to Go to the New Dwelling Place that is required for Every Jewish Bridegroom to built in His Father's House where the Wedding will take place for one week.
Besides all of that, the JEWS ALREADY HAVE STARTED THE WORK ON THE THIRD TEMPLE.
3rd Temple Replicate Under Construction To Teach Levite Priests In Israel - YouTube
Sneak Peak: The New Temple Institute Visitor Center in Jerusalem - YouTube
The rabbi, the lost ark and the future of Temple Mount - Telegraph
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Not all of them, but some of them.
Why would that line of reasoning stop as soon as the KJV came out?
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the KJV. It's the most insanely protestant bible out there just due to the sheer number of historic figures who have used it (followed by the Geneva bible IMO).
The wording is beautiful and the translation is very faithful. It is the go to translation and the version I've chosen to use. But that doesn't stop me from eying a select few other translations where the translators don't have an axe to grind (or a lot of verses to paraphrase).
I guess I still need a bit of convincing.
What?
The King James Bible translation, like Tyndale's translation mentioned above, is written in Early Modern English, not Old English.
Please stop bearing false witness against the KJV.
I'm one the main people on Christian Chat associated with fighting against KJV-onlyism, it makes no sense that you are treating me like a KJV-onlyist simply because you don't know how to use a dictionary.
-> Modern English - Wiktionary
Modern English (Proper noun)
The English language spoken since the great vowel shift, completed in roughly 1550.
Well then you shouldn't use the KJV, the translators admit to paraphrasing 1 Sam 10:24, 2 Sam 16:16, etc. It's right there in the side-notes what the Hebrew actually says, like so:
The great vowel shift...
On an unrelated note, I do prefer the Textus Recptus (and I guess by association) the majority text route (and this is with really crappy Greek skills, I suppose I could change my mind later). That means KJV, NKJV, or Geneva. It's a shame that the NKJV kind of well, stinks.
I don't know what it is about the NKJV, I just don't like it, and I'm the target audience. Super protestant, severe distrust of Westcott and Hort but interested in new ideas. Yet the NKJV still fails to deliver the goods.
The NASB is based off an entirely different Greek text (with Vatican influences even), but it feels more like a modernized King James than the NKJV does to me.
Why would that line of reasoning stop as soon as the KJV came out?
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the KJV. It's the most insanely protestant bible out there just due to the sheer number of historic figures who have used it (followed by the Geneva bible IMO).
The wording is beautiful and the translation is very faithful. It is the go to translation and the version I've chosen to use. But that doesn't stop me from eying a select few other translations where the translators don't have an axe to grind (or a lot of verses to paraphrase).
I guess I still need a bit of convincing.
What?
The King James Bible translation, like Tyndale's translation mentioned above, is written in Early Modern English, not Old English.
Please stop bearing false witness against the KJV.
I'm one the main people on Christian Chat associated with fighting against KJV-onlyism, it makes no sense that you are treating me like a KJV-onlyist simply because you don't know how to use a dictionary.
-> Modern English - Wiktionary
Modern English (Proper noun)
The English language spoken since the great vowel shift, completed in roughly 1550.
Well then you shouldn't use the KJV, the translators admit to paraphrasing 1 Sam 10:24, 2 Sam 16:16, etc. It's right there in the side-notes what the Hebrew actually says, like so:
On an unrelated note, I do prefer the Textus Recptus (and I guess by association) the majority text route (and this is with really crappy Greek skills, I suppose I could change my mind later). That means KJV, NKJV, or Geneva. It's a shame that the NKJV kind of well, stinks.
I don't know what it is about the NKJV, I just don't like it, and I'm the target audience. Super protestant, severe distrust of Westcott and Hort but interested in new ideas. Yet the NKJV still fails to deliver the goods.
The NASB is based off an entirely different Greek text (with Vatican influences even), but it feels more like a modernized King James than the NKJV does to me.
GOD the Son, the Creator of Everything Visible and Invisible, coming in the Flesh of JESUS is the mystery the vast majority cannot understand, AND denying that HE DID COME, is the work of the Antichrist already in this World.
1 John 4:2-3 (HCSB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] This is how you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] But every spirit who does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist; you have heard that he is coming, and he is already in the world now.
I have been tracking a New Age Guru for at least 20 years now, who is very popular in Europe. Back when I first started tracking him (He ran a quarter page add in our small town newspaper in Crescent City, CA.), and in one of his published articles, he actually stated, "Christ is a position, not a person. Two thousand years ago, Jesus of Nazareth held that position, now I do. You have got to forget everything you ever learned about Jesus of Nazareth, and learn to follow me." I thought that this freak will not last but a few weeks. But I see his name pop up ever so often, and he seems to be growing in popularity, especially in Europe. He calls himself Lord Maitreya, and claims he will soon be doing miracles on international TV to prove he is the Christ. NOW if that man ever gets involved in European Union politics, BEWARE.
1 John 4:2-3 (HCSB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] This is how you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] But every spirit who does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist; you have heard that he is coming, and he is already in the world now.
I have been tracking a New Age Guru for at least 20 years now, who is very popular in Europe. Back when I first started tracking him (He ran a quarter page add in our small town newspaper in Crescent City, CA.), and in one of his published articles, he actually stated, "Christ is a position, not a person. Two thousand years ago, Jesus of Nazareth held that position, now I do. You have got to forget everything you ever learned about Jesus of Nazareth, and learn to follow me." I thought that this freak will not last but a few weeks. But I see his name pop up ever so often, and he seems to be growing in popularity, especially in Europe. He calls himself Lord Maitreya, and claims he will soon be doing miracles on international TV to prove he is the Christ. NOW if that man ever gets involved in European Union politics, BEWARE.
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Okay, I will refer to the English used in current KJV version as the Outdated English of the KJV. Happy?
NOW answer me straight, do you Believe that Jesus is part of the Triune GOD or not?
Do you believe that the KJV of the Bible was Inspired or Translated from the oldest manuscripts available at the time?
Do you believe Thomas called Jesus both Lord and GOD?
Do you believe this verse as stated or not?
Colossians 2:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Here is the Doctrinal Statements of several Churches from Mainline Christianity, about the WORD of GOD the BIBLE, do you agree with these statements or not?
Non-Denominational
"1. The Holy Scriptures
We believe the Scriptures--both the Old and New Testaments--to be the verbally inspired Word of God, written by men in God's control, inerrant and infallible in the original manuscripts and the final authority in faith and life. . ."
http://www.ihcc.org/about-us/statement-faith
Baptist
The Scriptures
We believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God and that men of God “were moved by the Holy Spirit” to write the very words of Scripture. The Bible is therefore without error (inerrant) in its original manuscripts. . .
Statement of Faith - First Baptist Church Atlanta
Methodist
A/108. The Bible is God’s written Word, uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit. It bears unerring witness to Jesus Christ, the living Word. . . . The Scriptures have come to us through human authors who wrote, as God moved them, in the languages and literary forms of their times. God continues, by the illumination of the Holy Spirit, to speak through this Word to each generation and culture.
http://fmcusa.org/uniquelyfm/doctrine/
Lutheran Brethren
The Bible, including both Old and New Testaments as originally given, is the verbally and plenarily inspired Word of God and is free from error in the whole and in the part, and is therefore the final authoritative guide for faith and conduct.
http://www.clba.org/about-us/what-we-believe/statement-faith
Presbyterian
The Bible is the written word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit and without error in the original manuscripts. The Bible is the revelation of God’s truth and is infallible and authoritative in all matters of faith and practice.
http://www.gracepres.org/about/faith.asp
Berean Church
Holy Scriptures
We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the verbally inspired word of God, the final authority for faith and life, inerrant in the original writings, infallible and God-breathed. . .
http://www.bbcknoxville.org/about-us/statement-of-faith/
Calvary Chapel
WE BELIEVE that all the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are the Word of God, fully inspired and without error in the original manuscripts, and that they are the infallible rule of faith and practice.
Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale | Our Beliefs: Statement of Faith
Okay, I will refer to the English used in current KJV version as the Outdated English of the KJV. Happy?
NOW answer me straight, do you Believe that Jesus is part of the Triune GOD or not?
Do you believe that the KJV of the Bible was Inspired or Translated from the oldest manuscripts available at the time?
Do you believe Thomas called Jesus both Lord and GOD?
Do you believe this verse as stated or not?
Colossians 2:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Here is the Doctrinal Statements of several Churches from Mainline Christianity, about the WORD of GOD the BIBLE, do you agree with these statements or not?
Non-Denominational
"1. The Holy Scriptures
We believe the Scriptures--both the Old and New Testaments--to be the verbally inspired Word of God, written by men in God's control, inerrant and infallible in the original manuscripts and the final authority in faith and life. . ."
http://www.ihcc.org/about-us/statement-faith
Baptist
The Scriptures
We believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God and that men of God “were moved by the Holy Spirit” to write the very words of Scripture. The Bible is therefore without error (inerrant) in its original manuscripts. . .
Statement of Faith - First Baptist Church Atlanta
Methodist
A/108. The Bible is God’s written Word, uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit. It bears unerring witness to Jesus Christ, the living Word. . . . The Scriptures have come to us through human authors who wrote, as God moved them, in the languages and literary forms of their times. God continues, by the illumination of the Holy Spirit, to speak through this Word to each generation and culture.
http://fmcusa.org/uniquelyfm/doctrine/
Lutheran Brethren
The Bible, including both Old and New Testaments as originally given, is the verbally and plenarily inspired Word of God and is free from error in the whole and in the part, and is therefore the final authoritative guide for faith and conduct.
http://www.clba.org/about-us/what-we-believe/statement-faith
Presbyterian
The Bible is the written word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit and without error in the original manuscripts. The Bible is the revelation of God’s truth and is infallible and authoritative in all matters of faith and practice.
http://www.gracepres.org/about/faith.asp
Berean Church
Holy Scriptures
We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the verbally inspired word of God, the final authority for faith and life, inerrant in the original writings, infallible and God-breathed. . .
http://www.bbcknoxville.org/about-us/statement-of-faith/
Calvary Chapel
WE BELIEVE that all the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are the Word of God, fully inspired and without error in the original manuscripts, and that they are the infallible rule of faith and practice.
Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale | Our Beliefs: Statement of Faith
For what it is worth, I think the Antichrist will be one who comes up with a plan to save the Revived Roman Empire from the Brink of Financial Collapse and thus He will be invited to Rule. He does not become the most blood thirsty Dictator that ever lived until 3.5 years after his reign begins. His reign begins PEACEFULLY, that is why the Rider with the Bow has no arrows, it symbolizes a Conqueror who is invited to rule. We have a couple generations now that trust their eyes, and NOT the Bible. Thus his political rise to power could happen very quickly via a few miracles; because so many have forgotten that Satan imitated GOD's miracles in the past and the Bible says he will do it again. So I still keep an eye open for Maitreya, to become involved in politics in Europe.
What?
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I'm one the main people on Christian Chat associated with fighting against KJV-onlyism, it makes no sense that you are treating me like a KJV-onlyist simply because you don't know how to use a dictionary.
And now you claim you are the main one fighting against KJV-onlyism. Do you not hear your own contradiction?
Sigh, nothing will make me happy ever.
Nevertheless, most of the indexing tools that we have, such as the Strong's Concordance are keyed to the KJV, so it's much easier to find the decode verses back to the original language if we use the KJV.
KJV with Strong's, I think this on carries a lot of information.
Gen 1:1-3 In the beginning <H7225> God <H430> created <H1254> <H853> the heaven <H8064> and <H853> the earth <H776>. And the earth <H776> was <H1961> without form <H8414>, and void <H922>; and darkness <H2822> [was] upon the face <H6440> of the deep <H8415>. And the Spirit <H7307> of God <H430> moved <H7363> upon <H5921> the face <H6440> of the waters <H4325>. And God <H430> said <H559>, Let there be <H1961> light: <H216>: and there was light <H216>.
You can read this format style here -> Genesis 1 - 1769 King James Version KJV Red Letter King James Bible KJB Authorized Version AV Strong's Concordance Online Bible Study
If there are other Bibles available with Strong's Number markup for free on the internet then I don't know about them. If you have a link to a more modern Bible please post a link, thanks.
Of course! Jesus Christ the Son (and the Word) is God, the Father is God, and the Spirit is God. My reading of Gen 1:1-3 shows all of them before the universe was created.
You're right I'm wrong, my apologies, I'm very sorry.
It's better for me personally if you quote from the original manuscripts (to the extent that we can define what those are). I don't know if this forum supports right-to-left fonts like Hebrew, I guess we'll find out soon.
Nevertheless, most of the indexing tools that we have, such as the Strong's Concordance are keyed to the KJV, so it's much easier to find the decode verses back to the original language if we use the KJV.
KJV with Strong's, I think this on carries a lot of information.
Gen 1:1-3 In the beginning <H7225> God <H430> created <H1254> <H853> the heaven <H8064> and <H853> the earth <H776>. And the earth <H776> was <H1961> without form <H8414>, and void <H922>; and darkness <H2822> [was] upon the face <H6440> of the deep <H8415>. And the Spirit <H7307> of God <H430> moved <H7363> upon <H5921> the face <H6440> of the waters <H4325>. And God <H430> said <H559>, Let there be <H1961> light: <H216>: and there was light <H216>.
You can read this format style here -> Genesis 1 - 1769 King James Version KJV Red Letter King James Bible KJB Authorized Version AV Strong's Concordance Online Bible Study
If there are other Bibles available with Strong's Number markup for free on the internet then I don't know about them. If you have a link to a more modern Bible please post a link, thanks.
Of course! Jesus Christ the Son (and the Word) is God, the Father is God, and the Spirit is God. My reading of Gen 1:1-3 shows all of them before the universe was created.
You're right I'm wrong, my apologies, I'm very sorry.
It's better for me personally if you quote from the original manuscripts (to the extent that we can define what those are). I don't know if this forum supports right-to-left fonts like Hebrew, I guess we'll find out soon.
Here is the Doctrinal Statements of several Churches from Mainline Christianity, about the WORD of GOD the BIBLE, do you agree with these statements or not?
Non-Denominational
"1. The Holy Scriptures
We believe the Scriptures--both the Old and New Testaments--to be the verbally inspired Word of God, written by men in God's control, inerrant and infallible in the original manuscripts and the final authority in faith and life. . ."
http://www.ihcc.org/about-us/statement-faith
Baptist
The Scriptures
We believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God and that men of God “were moved by the Holy Spirit” to write the very words of Scripture. The Bible is therefore without error (inerrant) in its original manuscripts. . .
Statement of Faith - First Baptist Church Atlanta
Methodist
A/108. The Bible is God’s written Word, uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit. It bears unerring witness to Jesus Christ, the living Word. . . . The Scriptures have come to us through human authors who wrote, as God moved them, in the languages and literary forms of their times. God continues, by the illumination of the Holy Spirit, to speak through this Word to each generation and culture.
http://fmcusa.org/uniquelyfm/doctrine/
Lutheran Brethren
The Bible, including both Old and New Testaments as originally given, is the verbally and plenarily inspired Word of God and is free from error in the whole and in the part, and is therefore the final authoritative guide for faith and conduct.
http://www.clba.org/about-us/what-we-believe/statement-faith
Presbyterian
The Bible is the written word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit and without error in the original manuscripts. The Bible is the revelation of God’s truth and is infallible and authoritative in all matters of faith and practice.
http://www.gracepres.org/about/faith.asp
Berean Church
Holy Scriptures
We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the verbally inspired word of God, the final authority for faith and life, inerrant in the original writings, infallible and God-breathed. . .
http://www.bbcknoxville.org/about-us/statement-of-faith/
Calvary Chapel
WE BELIEVE that all the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are the Word of God, fully inspired and without error in the original manuscripts, and that they are the infallible rule of faith and practice.
Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale | Our Beliefs: Statement of Faith
Non-Denominational
"1. The Holy Scriptures
We believe the Scriptures--both the Old and New Testaments--to be the verbally inspired Word of God, written by men in God's control, inerrant and infallible in the original manuscripts and the final authority in faith and life. . ."
http://www.ihcc.org/about-us/statement-faith
Baptist
The Scriptures
We believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God and that men of God “were moved by the Holy Spirit” to write the very words of Scripture. The Bible is therefore without error (inerrant) in its original manuscripts. . .
Statement of Faith - First Baptist Church Atlanta
Methodist
A/108. The Bible is God’s written Word, uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit. It bears unerring witness to Jesus Christ, the living Word. . . . The Scriptures have come to us through human authors who wrote, as God moved them, in the languages and literary forms of their times. God continues, by the illumination of the Holy Spirit, to speak through this Word to each generation and culture.
http://fmcusa.org/uniquelyfm/doctrine/
Lutheran Brethren
The Bible, including both Old and New Testaments as originally given, is the verbally and plenarily inspired Word of God and is free from error in the whole and in the part, and is therefore the final authoritative guide for faith and conduct.
http://www.clba.org/about-us/what-we-believe/statement-faith
Presbyterian
The Bible is the written word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit and without error in the original manuscripts. The Bible is the revelation of God’s truth and is infallible and authoritative in all matters of faith and practice.
http://www.gracepres.org/about/faith.asp
Berean Church
Holy Scriptures
We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the verbally inspired word of God, the final authority for faith and life, inerrant in the original writings, infallible and God-breathed. . .
http://www.bbcknoxville.org/about-us/statement-of-faith/
Calvary Chapel
WE BELIEVE that all the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are the Word of God, fully inspired and without error in the original manuscripts, and that they are the infallible rule of faith and practice.
Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale | Our Beliefs: Statement of Faith
Sorry but I do not read Hebrew, Aramaic, nor Greek, and the Original Manuscripts would have been written in those three languages, depending on the which books you are talking about. But Technically I do not think any of the actual original manuscripts exist anymore, because all of the translations were made from copies of original manuscripts. That is the point I was trying to make. SO, we have to trust that GOD answered the prayers of the Translators and gave the Guidance of the Holy Spirit to preserve the original meaning during the Translation to English. AND I am sure all the Translation Teams of All other languages prayed for the same Guidance from the Holy Spirit.
The BIGGEST REASONS that I think GOD certainly did answer those prayers with the Spiritual Guidance requested are:
John 14:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] "Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] "If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
The expression "in My name" means according to HIS WILL, which is "not my will", but the Father's will be done. Thus that Guarantee does not apply to any prayer that is NOT the Father's will. Like I used to teach the inmates: "Prayer is not a way to make GOD do what you want, it is a way for you to participate in doing the Father's will." And what is GOD's will pertaining to His Word that became our Bibles:
Matthew 28:19-20 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
Thus I certainly do believe that every truly born again Believer that participated in Translating the Bible into another language, received help from the Holy Spirit to do GOD's will.
The New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible utilizes the same Greek and Hebrew numbers as the Strongs, and have their own NASB Greek Hebrew Dictionary. But that is one you have to buy for the appropriate software. https://www.wordsearchbible.com/pro...roducts_query=New+American+Standard&commit=Go
But there is a Free Version of the WORDsearch 10 Bible library, that has a few less features but is EXTREMELY well made and user friendly, with video tutorials to learn how to use it. Plus there are over 200 books you can add to the program that are free. Most of them are the older, no longer copywrited books, with a fewer newer books and or bibles for free. Right now, they have a special, making Holman's Christian Standard Bible free also. That one my be a temporary special. Here is a link to where I explained more about it: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/76178-free-outstanding-bible-software.html
The main reason the NASB, the NKJV, and the HCSB are my favorites, is they capitalize all pronouns referring to any one of the Holy Trinity. I think that just shows more respect for their Deity.
The BIGGEST REASONS that I think GOD certainly did answer those prayers with the Spiritual Guidance requested are:
John 14:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] "Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] "If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
The expression "in My name" means according to HIS WILL, which is "not my will", but the Father's will be done. Thus that Guarantee does not apply to any prayer that is NOT the Father's will. Like I used to teach the inmates: "Prayer is not a way to make GOD do what you want, it is a way for you to participate in doing the Father's will." And what is GOD's will pertaining to His Word that became our Bibles:
Matthew 28:19-20 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
Thus I certainly do believe that every truly born again Believer that participated in Translating the Bible into another language, received help from the Holy Spirit to do GOD's will.
The New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible utilizes the same Greek and Hebrew numbers as the Strongs, and have their own NASB Greek Hebrew Dictionary. But that is one you have to buy for the appropriate software. https://www.wordsearchbible.com/pro...roducts_query=New+American+Standard&commit=Go
But there is a Free Version of the WORDsearch 10 Bible library, that has a few less features but is EXTREMELY well made and user friendly, with video tutorials to learn how to use it. Plus there are over 200 books you can add to the program that are free. Most of them are the older, no longer copywrited books, with a fewer newer books and or bibles for free. Right now, they have a special, making Holman's Christian Standard Bible free also. That one my be a temporary special. Here is a link to where I explained more about it: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/76178-free-outstanding-bible-software.html
The main reason the NASB, the NKJV, and the HCSB are my favorites, is they capitalize all pronouns referring to any one of the Holy Trinity. I think that just shows more respect for their Deity.
I want to try to help you VCO. Just consider the following things.
1) Jesus made an end to all animal sacrifices at the cross.
2) Ezekiels temple is not made with humans hands. It is the body of Christ.
3) The wedding feast of the Lamb is going on right now. The food at the feast is the word of God. You can not feast on the word unless you have on the proper garments... the righteousness of Christ.
4) The 2 witnesses are the Old Testament and New Testament.
Again I'm trying to help you, don't take my word for it, study it out in the bible. Have you ever seen the movie the "Matrix"? Your view of scripture and most every one's view of scripture is matrix programming. There is a way that seemeth right to a man... this is the matrix programming through literature, history, scholarship etc. Reality is found in the word of God.
1) Jesus made an end to all animal sacrifices at the cross.
2) Ezekiels temple is not made with humans hands. It is the body of Christ.
3) The wedding feast of the Lamb is going on right now. The food at the feast is the word of God. You can not feast on the word unless you have on the proper garments... the righteousness of Christ.
4) The 2 witnesses are the Old Testament and New Testament.
Again I'm trying to help you, don't take my word for it, study it out in the bible. Have you ever seen the movie the "Matrix"? Your view of scripture and most every one's view of scripture is matrix programming. There is a way that seemeth right to a man... this is the matrix programming through literature, history, scholarship etc. Reality is found in the word of God.
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WOW, are you ever confused. I am a born again Christian that Strives to give the Holy Spirit complete control of mind as I read HIS WORD, and that is NOT what the Holy Spirit it teaching me, not even close. And you want me to interpret Scripture using "matrix programing" instead of LISTENING to what the Holy Spirit is teaching. NEVER!
John 14:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
Explain in your own words what Born Again is?
(1) I Believe what GOD has said in HIS WORD, what on earth are you believing?
Revelation 4:1 (ASV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] After these things I saw, and behold, a door opened in heaven, and the first voice that I heard, a voice as of a trumpet speaking with me, one saying, Come up hither, and I will show thee the things which must come to pass hereafter.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
(2) Here is the Temple that is made with no hands:
Revelation 11:19 (ASV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And there was opened the temple of God that is in heaven; and there was seen in his temple the ark of his covenant; and there followed lightnings, and voices, and thunders, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Revelation 14:17 (NKJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
(3) You have to Study Jewish Wedding Customs and the Seven Feasts of Israel to understand the Wedding of the Lamb. With that information you will gain a deeper, fuller understanding via the Holy Spirit, concerning the Wedding of the LAMB VERSES that we have in our Bibles. So I suggest that you read "A Christian Love Story" booklet, but Dr. Zola Levitt (who is a born again JEWISH CHRISTIAN), and this video series by him also, called "The Seven Feasts of Israel". ZLM Video Series: “The Seven Feasts of Israel”
(4) HERE are the TWO WITNESSES of Revelation, SEE how confused you REALLY ARE:
Revelation 11:3-12 (NKJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
[SUP]4 [/SUP] These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. {LIVE ON CNN}
[SUP]10 [/SUP] And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. {AGAIN LIVE ON CNN}
WOW, are you ever confused. I am a born again Christian that Strives to give the Holy Spirit complete control of mind as I read HIS WORD, and that is NOT what the Holy Spirit it teaching me, not even close. And you want me to interpret Scripture using "matrix programing" instead of LISTENING to what the Holy Spirit is teaching. NEVER!
John 14:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
Explain in your own words what Born Again is?
(1) I Believe what GOD has said in HIS WORD, what on earth are you believing?
Revelation 4:1 (ASV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] After these things I saw, and behold, a door opened in heaven, and the first voice that I heard, a voice as of a trumpet speaking with me, one saying, Come up hither, and I will show thee the things which must come to pass hereafter.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
(2) Here is the Temple that is made with no hands:
Revelation 11:19 (ASV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And there was opened the temple of God that is in heaven; and there was seen in his temple the ark of his covenant; and there followed lightnings, and voices, and thunders, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Revelation 14:17 (NKJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
(3) You have to Study Jewish Wedding Customs and the Seven Feasts of Israel to understand the Wedding of the Lamb. With that information you will gain a deeper, fuller understanding via the Holy Spirit, concerning the Wedding of the LAMB VERSES that we have in our Bibles. So I suggest that you read "A Christian Love Story" booklet, but Dr. Zola Levitt (who is a born again JEWISH CHRISTIAN), and this video series by him also, called "The Seven Feasts of Israel". ZLM Video Series: “The Seven Feasts of Israel”
(4) HERE are the TWO WITNESSES of Revelation, SEE how confused you REALLY ARE:
Revelation 11:3-12 (NKJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
[SUP]4 [/SUP] These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. {LIVE ON CNN}
[SUP]10 [/SUP] And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. {AGAIN LIVE ON CNN}
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2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, {the Antichrist, a Dictator possessed by Satan himself}
[SUP]4 [/SUP]who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
NOTICE he is TALKING about a future Earthly Temple, Satan certainly is NOT going into the Temple in Heaven to pull that stunt off.
If you really want to seriously study future Prophecy, I suggest you go to gty.org, click on John's Sermons and there you can sort them by books of Bible. That is Dr. John MacArthur's site.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, {the Antichrist, a Dictator possessed by Satan himself}
[SUP]4 [/SUP]who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
NOTICE he is TALKING about a future Earthly Temple, Satan certainly is NOT going into the Temple in Heaven to pull that stunt off.
If you really want to seriously study future Prophecy, I suggest you go to gty.org, click on John's Sermons and there you can sort them by books of Bible. That is Dr. John MacArthur's site.
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No, and I certainly do not want to see it now, since you think it can be a tool to understand the Bible.
I will continue to TRUST the Holy Spirit to give me understanding of HIS WORD. You would do well to try it some time. And you are not Born Again, you will HAVE TO start there.
1 Corinthians 2:12-14 (NKJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But the natural man {not born again} does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I will continue to TRUST the Holy Spirit to give me understanding of HIS WORD. You would do well to try it some time. And you are not Born Again, you will HAVE TO start there.
1 Corinthians 2:12-14 (NKJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But the natural man {not born again} does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The Matrix was a very telling movie. It was a movie about people who were imprisoned in some sort of cocoon. They never moved from the cocoon, in fact they were unconscious inside the cocoon and that was their life day in and day out.Their captors connected wires to their bodies and piped a virtual reality into their minds and these people thought they were actually living the virtual reality, but in reality they were trapped in the cocoon.
You live in the matirx, only your programming doesn't come from wires connected to your head. You are programmed through literature, history, science, religion, the arts, scholastics, radio, and television. You believe what you believe because of the reality that has been been programmed into you.
If you read Daniel 9 without the bias of the matrix, then you would come away with a completely different view of Daniel 9. There is nothing in Daniel 9 that points to the antichrist confirming a covenant with Israel.
You live in the matirx, only your programming doesn't come from wires connected to your head. You are programmed through literature, history, science, religion, the arts, scholastics, radio, and television. You believe what you believe because of the reality that has been been programmed into you.
If you read Daniel 9 without the bias of the matrix, then you would come away with a completely different view of Daniel 9. There is nothing in Daniel 9 that points to the antichrist confirming a covenant with Israel.
I agree, but probably not for the same reason. GOD is not a being trapped traveling through time as we are. HE is Omnipresent in all time at the same time. He declares the end from the beginning because He is Omnipresent. He writes our name in the book of life before the foundation of the earth, and gives us freedom to choose whom we will Serve, and BOTH are absolute Truth because He is Omnipresent in all time.
SO because He is Omnipresent in both the beginning and the end and everything in between, HE most certainly CAN grab Enoch and Elijah, and say I NEED you two in the Great Tribulation at the end of the Age to lead my people Israel to Salvation in Jesus Christ; moving them instantly from one time frame to the time when HE Needs and Wants them.
GOD IS TOO BIG to ever fit in a box we call TIME. If you cannot fathom that, then try to stretch your finite mind to grasp HE WHO IN INFINITE in all things INCLUDING TIME.
SO because He is Omnipresent in both the beginning and the end and everything in between, HE most certainly CAN grab Enoch and Elijah, and say I NEED you two in the Great Tribulation at the end of the Age to lead my people Israel to Salvation in Jesus Christ; moving them instantly from one time frame to the time when HE Needs and Wants them.
GOD IS TOO BIG to ever fit in a box we call TIME. If you cannot fathom that, then try to stretch your finite mind to grasp HE WHO IN INFINITE in all things INCLUDING TIME.
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Having been in a prison ministry in one of the LARGEST Security Housing Units (Holes) in the State of California, talking to a lot of different kinds of inmates, including those on psyche meds; I thought I had heard all the strange theories of interpretation there is. BUT YOU JUST TOOK THE GRAND PRIZE for Strange Doctrines.
Does anyone else find this unbelievable Doctrine that KJV1611 just presented, as Extremely Strange as I do?
Please KJV11,
get your doctrinal beliefs from the BIBLE, not from some Hollywood Movie.
Having been in a prison ministry in one of the LARGEST Security Housing Units (Holes) in the State of California, talking to a lot of different kinds of inmates, including those on psyche meds; I thought I had heard all the strange theories of interpretation there is. BUT YOU JUST TOOK THE GRAND PRIZE for Strange Doctrines.
Does anyone else find this unbelievable Doctrine that KJV1611 just presented, as Extremely Strange as I do?
Please KJV11,
get your doctrinal beliefs from the BIBLE, not from some Hollywood Movie.