Neat Discovery About John 3:13

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No, that certainly is a prophecy about the Antichrist of the 70th Week of Daniel, which finishes the Covenant with Israel after the Church is called out of Earth to go to the Wedding of the Lamb, which takes place in the New Dwelling Place HE has built for us in Heaven.

Do you believe Jesus made an end of sacrifices when he died on the cross?
 
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To the person above:
The Bible calls the sky and couds heaven and space and stars anothe rheaven
the heaven planet where the temple is now and where the throne is is straight throug Orion nebula

That is where we go for the 1000 years then the New JErusalem comes down here with the thone and tree of life to make this planet the center of the universe, Gods home.

Back to the thread:
Nice discovery on John 3:13. I like it when new things unfold from the word. thank you.

No one goes to to heaven for the 1000 years the meek shall inherit the earth
 
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He was not Mechisedec then Jesus coming in flesh is not a mystery
RuthHannah, Jesus coming in the flesh has never been a mystery, it's all over the old testament... many prophecies of Jesus coming.
 
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Do you believe Jesus made an end of sacrifices when he died on the cross?
No. I do not believe that at all according to what is written in Romans... :p

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Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy,
to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship.
2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

We are an ongoing living sacrifice to the Lord while the renewing of our mind through Gods word and experience put into practical application through the Spirit is taking place until perfected on the Day of the Lord.

If anyone wishes to gain his life...he must lose it.
 
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RuthHannah, Jesus coming in the flesh has never been a mystery, it's all over the old testament... many prophecies of Jesus coming.
I think I will stay with the Bible than your words

1 Timothy 3:16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
 
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RuthHannah, Jesus coming in the flesh has never been a mystery, it's all over the old testament... many prophecies of Jesus coming.
Revelation 14:14

King James Version (KJV)

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.


Revelation 19:11-13

King James Version (KJV)

11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.


you will notice that the first rider has one crown and like unto the Son of man, This is an angel not Jesus

The second rider is Jesus and Jesus wears many crowns and not
like unto the Son of man, but that Jesus is the word of God


Hebrews 7

King James Version (KJV)

7 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priestcontinually.


hmmmmmmmmmmm


thus Melchischedic is not Jesus nor is he an angel
 
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If no man has ascended accept for Jesus then where did Elijah and Enoch go?
Where and when only apply to the dimension we are in. If Yeshua says no man has ascended to heaven then we who believe in Him have no reason to doubt that.
 
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Where and when only apply to the dimension we are in. If Yeshua says no man has ascended to heaven then we who believe in Him have no reason to doubt that.
I agree, time is only a factor in this 3 dimensional world. I think they went to Abraham's bosom where all the other Old Testament saints went. But that is only a guess because the bible does not tell us.
 

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It's a shame that others can't see that. There are hundreds of patterns like this all over the KJV. These new translation just trash the number patterns and the symbolic phrases used throughout the KJV. People say how do you know the KJV is the inerrant word of God and I'm like how on earth can you not see that it is. Divine inspiration is every where, these things can't be coincidental.
Yes indeed it is. There is so much majesty and beauty in the Authorized King James Holy Bible. And just as you said, there are indeed numerous patterns, and numerical stuctures all through out the King James Bible. I have read a great amount of the King James Code which is written by brother Mike Hoggard. And in that work of his, he shows what the Lord revealed to him about His holy word and the numerical patterns which He placed within the text of His holy Scriptures. It is absolutely fascinating. Brother Mike Hoggard also wrote another book titled: "By Divine Order." I have not read that book of his yet, but would like to. I am sure it is very similar to the King James Code in that it May discuss the phenomenon of the Bible Numerics.

Also the modern versions do destroy many if not all of the Number patterns that are found in the Holy Bible.

And God's Stamp and Signature is all over the Authorized King James Bible. It is the Book of books. And it is the Book which God has honoured and greatly blessed.



People that have discarded the KJV are missing all the keys to understanding God's word. The language structure used in the Old Testament and New Testament are the same... it makes it easy to understand God's word. I have learned a ton by just taking key words or phrases and chasing them down throughout the bible. If I have a question about a passage, I never consult the internet or commentary. I ask God to show me the meaning from the bible. Then some time later on down the road I'll be reading something in the bible and the Holy Spirit will bring another verse to my mind and then click... there's the answer to my question. Here a little there a little.

And yes a Christian should seek God for the understanding of His holy word. He is the Divine Author of it. So we should be motivated to learn more about Him by learning more about His word. The more time a Christian spends in the word of God (King James Bible), the more that Christian will purify his life and that Christian will get to know God more personally.




When I finally decided to believe the KJV was the inerrant word of God, the blinders fell off my eyes. The scriptures came alive and God began to show me the neatest things. I used to know who Jesus was, but now I know Jesus personally. I have so many things that God has shown me through his word and I wish I could share them but sadly when I try, I get blasted because others can't see what I see. I'm rambling, but anyways I love that bible! Praise God for you ChosenbyHim! I'm so glad to see others who haven't abandoned the word of God.

You are a great blessing and encouragement sir! It is always great to meet other Bible believers. Christians that believe the Book, although they may not understand everything that is in it, they still believe the Blessed Book :)

And indeed, when a Christian chooses to trust and believe God's word, God will then begin to show that Christian new fascinating things about His holy word. Just as He has showed you brother.

On the contrary, when someone goes to a seminary and their minds get defiled and corrupted with Alexandrian philosophy, that same person comes out of that seminary being a Bible agnostic. That graduate has had his faith destroyed in God's pure and holy word ( King James Bible), and that same person now thinks that he is smarter than God and that he can somehow make corrections to God's holy word. You talk about ego and pride!!!

That same person who has become a critic of God's holy word, cannot receive any revelation from the word of God. Why?

Brother Peter Ruckman gave a good answer to this question when he said the following some time ago: "God has closed the blinders, turned off the lights, and has shut the door" on that person, which is why that same person cannot receive any further understanding and revelation from God's holy word.

I may have paraphrased brother Ruckman's statement just a little bit :) But you get the point, and the case which he was making.

And that is God is not going to reveal the precious gems and jewels which are found in His holy word to person who does not believe and honour His word.

But God will reveal further understanding and more revelation from His precious word to those Christians who simply trust and believe His Book and who submit themselves to the Authority of His holy word.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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And placing your puny and vain intellect over the Final Authority of the inerrant word of God is a sin.

So you repent of your sin of sitting in judgment over the word of God.
lol. I am judging a person who is claiming to be Gods child causing division over a particular interpretation.. Not the word of God. the word of God (in all translations) has been used by God to save people for hundreds of years now.

Your the one idolizing a book. and not giving credit or glory to God, who can use ALL translations (and has been since the begining)
 
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I base my doctrine on the bible.

Psa 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Psa 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

It's easy tell which is the inerrant word of God. If your bible says the Son of God was in the fiery furnace then you have the inerrant word of God. If your bible bible says that a son of the gods was in the fiery furnace then you reading a faulty bible.
Thats funny

when David wrote that psalm. most of the words he got were from God himself. he did not even have all of scripture.

So why are you idolizing a book, and Holding God back?
 
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It's a shame that others can't see that. There are hundreds of patterns like this all over the KJV. These new translation just trash the number patterns and the symbolic phrases used throughout the KJV. People say how do you know the KJV is the inerrant word of God and I'm like how on earth can you not see that it is. Divine inspiration is every where, these things can't be coincidental.

People that have discarded the KJV are missing all the keys to understanding God's word. The language structure used in the Old Testament and New Testament are the same... it makes it easy to understand God's word. I have learned a ton by just taking key words or phrases and chasing them down throughout the bible. If I have a question about a passage, I never consult the internet or commentary. I ask God to show me the meaning from the bible. Then some time later on down the road I'll be reading something in the bible and the Holy Spirit will bring another verse to my mind and then click... there's the answer to my question. Here a little there a little.

When I finally decided to believe the KJV was the inerrant word of God, the blinders fell off my eyes. The scriptures came alive and God began to show me the neatest things. I used to know who Jesus was, but now I know Jesus personally. I have so many things that God has shown me through his word and I wish I could share them but sadly when I try, I get blasted because others can't see what I see. I'm rambling, but anyways I love that bible! Praise God for you ChosenbyHim! I'm so glad to see others who haven't abandoned the word of God.

This is pure idolotry!
 
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"Despite some controversial translation choices, the merits of Tyndale's work and prose style made his translation the ultimate basis for all subsequent renditions into Early Modern English."
NO, that would apply to a Paraphrase such as the New Living Bible, NOT A TRANSLATION. It is not a Translation if you just go from Old English to New English, YOU have to actually Translate it from the oldest validated original Language Manuscripts available, to call it a Translation.

What?
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The King James Bible translation, like Tyndale's translation mentioned above, is written in Early Modern English, not Old English.

Please stop bearing false witness against the KJV.


I'm one the main people on Christian Chat associated with fighting against KJV-onlyism, it makes no sense that you are treating me like a KJV-onlyist simply because you don't know how to use a dictionary.

-> Modern English - Wiktionary

Modern English (Proper noun)
The English language spoken since the great vowel shift, completed in roughly 1550.



I do not like to use ANY Paraphrase Versions, ONLY Translations.

Well then you shouldn't use the KJV, the translators admit to paraphrasing
1 Sam 10:24, 2 Sam 16:16, etc. It's right there in the side-notes what the Hebrew actually says, like so:

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ChosenbyHim

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lol. I am judging a person who is claiming to be Gods child causing division over a particular interpretation.. Not the word of God. the word of God (in all translations) has been used by God to save people for hundreds of years now.

Your the one idolizing a book. and not giving credit or glory to God, who can use ALL translations (and has been since the begining)

No, you have set yourself as a judge over the word of God.

Your the one that is telling me that there are mistakes and errors in my Bible. And you are wrong. There are absolutely no errors in the King James Holy Bible.

Sure God is able to use all translations, but God Will also lead His child to His true word.

And I already am aware that various people have gotten saved by reading a modern version. In fact, I heard about someone getting saved by reading a catholic bible.

Why? Because the Gospel can be found intact in even the most corrupt perversions out there (i.e. NIV, NLT, NAB, CEB, etc.).

What you need to do EG is stop usurping your vain intellect over the Final Authority of God's perfect and pure word, the King James Holy Bible.
 
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Your the one that is telling me that there are mistakes and errors in my Bible. And you are wrong. There are absolutely no errors in the King James Holy Bible.
According to ChosenbyHim, referring to Jesus Christ as God in Titus 2:13 is an error.

Titus 2:13 ... of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; (KJV)

Titus 2:13 ... of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, (NKJV)


According to ChosenbyHim, referring to Jesus Christ as God in 2 Peter 1:1 is an error.

2 Peter 1:1 ... of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: (KJV)

2 Peter 1:1 ... of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: (NKJV)

According to ChosenbyHim, asking Jesus Christ directly in His name in John 14:13 is an error.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, ... (KJV)

John 14:13 If you ask Me anything in My name, ... (NASB)

Of course, the KJV shows that Stephen called directly on Jesus Christ (just like the NASB says he should do in John 14:13). Clearly the first Christian martyr was a Christian, not a KJV-onlyist.

Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. ... 59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon [God], and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.