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CS1

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You said: "Then I remind you that Allerogizing the word of God and taking it out of context is not how to understand Biblical
scriptures."

This is the exact mistake you have been making.

First you changed scripture from bene ha elohim to "bene-men"

Second mistake you made is saying:
"If angels slept with women, God would owe the man an apology for the flood when it was clearly an angel's fault, not man's sin, as God said in Chapter 6 it was."

Did you forget that the entire world was condemned in sin BEFORE Genesis ch6 occurred.

Does God owe you an apology for permitting a fallen angel, Satan, in the Garden to tempt and take captive all of mankind???

Third mistake you are making is rejecting "every word spoken out of the mouth of God."
Genesis ch6 , Job ch1 ch2 ch38 , Jude 1:4-7 , 2 Peter 2:4-6 , John 1:11-12 , Luke 3:38 , Luke 20:34-36 , Corinthians ch15

Right now you owe God a major apology and if you humble yourself before HIM, HE promises to lift you up.
yea the entire world was fallen because of what Adam and Eve did. Not angels having sex with women :)
 

CS1

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You said: "Then I remind you that Allerogizing the word of God and taking it out of context is not how to understand Biblical
scriptures."

This is the exact mistake you have been making.

First you changed scripture from bene ha elohim to "bene-men"

Second mistake you made is saying:
"If angels slept with women, God would owe the man an apology for the flood when it was clearly an angel's fault, not man's sin, as God said in Chapter 6 it was."

Did you forget that the entire world was condemned in sin BEFORE Genesis ch6 occurred.

Does God owe you an apology for permitting a fallen angel, Satan, in the Garden to tempt and take captive all of mankind???

Third mistake you are making is rejecting "every word spoken out of the mouth of God."
Genesis ch6 , Job ch1 ch2 ch38 , Jude 1:4-7 , 2 Peter 2:4-6 , John 1:11-12 , Luke 3:38 , Luke 20:34-36 , Corinthians ch15

Right now, you owe God a major apology, and if you humble yourself before HIM, HE promises to lift you up.

No, I don't owe God anything. I'm Debt Free Because of my lord and Savior; sorry to disappoint you :).

You are grossly unbiblical, and you invoke false judgment and demand to repent when you are called on your error.

You call people liars here, and you most likely are suffering from some serious cognitive dilemma. I am praying for you. I really am.
 
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Tis an awful heap of 'suming to assert oneself as speaking for God. If you insist on pursuing this office, you should proceed much more cautiously.
i do not assume for i know the LORD Jesus Christ who has called me out of darkness and into His Light.
and i know what the Holy Spirit of Truth speaks and teaches in His Word.

Perhaps you can bring forth a scripture that states our earthly bodies/flesh have been Born-Again by the Spirit of God.
 
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Perhaps you can bring forth a scripture that states our earthly bodies/flesh have been Born-Again by the Spirit of God.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

1 Pet 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
 
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No, I don't owe God anything. I'm Debt Free Because of my lord and Savior; sorry to disappoint you :).

You are grossly unbiblical, and you invoke false judgment and demand to repent when you are called on your error.

You call people liars here, and you most likely are suffering from some serious cognitive dilemma. I am praying for you. I really am.
You have not provided a shred of evidence to this supposed error of mine.

Whereas you feel that Scripture takes a knee to your carnal logic = changing bene ha elohim to "bene-men."

You owe the LORD many apologies.

You proudly violate the words of the LORD Jesus Christ.

Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
 
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Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

1 Pet 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Beautiful scriptures - thank you

Please point out where it says our physical bodies of flesh have been Born-Again.
 

CS1

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The only way fallen man can become a son of God is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and what he accomplished in his d,b,r.

Who are the sons of God in Job 38?

Genesis 5 is there for the purpose to show us that God kept himself a perfect generation in the midst of the perversion of the sons of God led by Satan. Satan was out to eliminate Genesis 3:15 from happening.
You have a point, but Jesus had not yet paid that price at Calvary. So how were they justified pre-Crucifixion? The context of JOB 38 is within the context of JOB, not Genesis chapter 6. Apples to apples, not angels with women.


How was one saved or in right standing with God Before the Cross Death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus? One lived uprightly before God or was elected by GOD through the Sovereignty of God.


after the fall


Gen 4 And Abel, he also brought the firstlings of his flock and the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:


Gen 4:26 then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.


Gen 5 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Gen 6:8-9 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
 
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The only way fallen man can become a son of God is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and what he accomplished in his d,b,r.

Who are the sons of God in Job 38?

Genesis 5 is there for the purpose to show us that God kept himself a perfect generation in the midst of the perversion of the sons of God led by Satan. Satan was out to eliminate Genesis 3:15 from happening.
BINGO

Satan knew that if he corrupted the bloodline of man by mixing in fallen angelic DNA then God's Prophecy to satan in the Garden would fail and satan would have authority to ursup God's throne.

How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
 
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yea the entire world was fallen because of what Adam and Eve did. Not angels having sex with women :)
So then why make a foolish boast to God that HE owes you an apology, since it is God who judges both men and angels.
The angels HE locked up for coming to earth and having sexual relations with "the daughters of men".
 

CS1

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You have not provided a shred of evidence to this supposed error of mine.

Whereas you feel that Scripture takes a knee to your carnal logic = changing bene ha elohim to "bene-men."

You owe the LORD many apologies.

You proudly violate the words of the LORD Jesus Christ.

Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

No, I am not violating anything other than your ego :).

It's ok. I don't need you to agree with me; I could be wrong, so everyone should study and pray and come to an understanding that way. As long as everyone who has come on here sees what was said, I'm perfectly fine with the conclusion they have come up with, even if I disagree. They are not liars needing to repent as you have suggested or done some gross sin. What I have exposed is you are very judgemental and Prideful. You are no prophet, you re no teacher, and you are very mistaken :)
 

CS1

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So then why make a foolish boast to God that HE owes you an apology, since it is God who judges both men and angels.
The angels HE locked up for coming to earth and having sexual relations with "the daughters of men".

I never said God owes me an apology. You can't read. Post 411 read it and weep.
 

Mem

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i do not assume for i know the LORD Jesus Christ who has called me out of darkness and into His Light.
and i know what the Holy Spirit of Truth speaks and teaches in His Word.

Perhaps you can bring forth a scripture that states our earthly bodies/flesh have been Born-Again by the Spirit of God.
Ezekiel 37

:3 Then He asked me, “Son of man, can these bones come to life?”

“O Lord GOD,” I replied, “only You know.”

:5 This is what the Lord GOD says to these bones: I will cause breatha to enter you, and you will come to life. 6I will attach tendons to you and make flesh grow upon you and cover you with skin. I will put breath within you so that you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the LORD.’ ”

:9 Then He said to me, “Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and tell the breath that this is what the Lord GOD says: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe into these slain, so that they may live!”

:12 Therefore prophesy and tell them that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘O My people, I will open your graves and bring you up from them, and I will bring you back to the land of Israel.
:13 Then you, My people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them.

These will see the kingdom when God bears them up again (raises them up). and

:14
I will put My Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD.’ ”

One Nation with One King^
 
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Beautiful scriptures - thank you

Please point out where it says our physical bodies of flesh have been Born-Again.
1 Pet 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

If you're a Christian, YOU are born again right now.
 

CS1

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1 Pet 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

If you're a Christian, YOU are born again right now.
he is no longer here.
 

John146

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You could take that passage and say the spy part where dwarves and, next thing you know, pygmies are hybrids of snow white and the seven dwarves.
I'd feel like a grasshopper next to Dolph Lundgren, but it doesn't mean that he actually sees me as a grasshopper, I'm sure as I might be that he does. In fact, he might've heard of me and actually be scared of my quick and lethal little feet. The sin of the spies was that they returned an evil report. If it was the truth, what made it so evil? I just read where Joshua killed the three sons of Anak, was he some kind of ninja or have superpowers like Antman? Pretty sure you'd need some sort of superpower to be a kill a half-angel, let alone three. And if Jesus is captain of the Angel armies, how come He wasn't at least 20 feet tall?
I allow scripture to be honest. Joshua had God on his side.
 

John146

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You have a point, but Jesus had not yet paid that price at Calvary. So how were they justified pre-Crucifixion? The context of JOB 38 is within the context of JOB, not Genesis chapter 6. Apples to apples, not angels with women.
Scripture defines itself. Sons of God are creatures of God that were sinless in their creation. The only way we can become sinless sons of God is through Jesus. There were no sons of God before the cross, only Adam, because Adam was created sinless.
 

John146

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Gen 4 And Abel, he also brought the firstlings of his flock and the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:


Gen 4:26 then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.


Gen 5 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Gen 6:8-9 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
But none of these knew Jesus Christ. Is there another way?
 

John146

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BINGO

Satan knew that if he corrupted the bloodline of man by mixing in fallen angelic DNA then God's Prophecy to satan in the Garden would fail and satan would have authority to ursup God's throne.

How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
The entire OT is the battle over the prophecy of Genesis 3:15.