In post 213 you stated, “Since God clearly said that sons of God, which HE said are angels”.
Since I know that Scripture doesn’t contain such a statement, I asked in post 215, “Where does God state clearly that the sons of God are angels?”
In post 217 you responded with, “The Holy Spirit stated it clearly and our LORD Jesus Christ, the Creator, also stated it clearly.”
In post 218 I responded, “You dodged that almost completely. WHERE in Scripture did the Holy Spirit state clearly that the sons of God are angels??" I gave more info in 219 and rephrased my question.
In post 221 you said, “I see your dilemma” and pointed me to post 118.
I responded in post 225 with “There is no dilemma. Job 1:6 and 2:1 both use the same Hebrew phrase bene ha'elohim. This means "sons of God", not "angels". The Hebrew word for angels is ha'malakim. It's a different root with a different meaning. In other words, you have still provided no evidence for your claim.”
Read on from there. I have provided evidence contradicting your claim. You have not provided clear evidence supporting it. Instead, you have advised me to just believe every word of Scripture… implying clearly that I don’t... while you blather on about "Christian love". I don't consider insults and arrogance to be consistent with Christian love at all.
Again, your claim, which I reject as erroneous:
“God clearly said that sons of God, which HE said are angels” or, more succinctly, “God clearly said that the sons of God are angels”.
At no time have I asserted that the sons of God are not angels, nor that they are humans, nor anything else. I am simply and directly challenging your assertion as you worded it.
God has not “clearly” said that the sons of God are angels. For your assertion to be true, there would have to be a text in Scripture where God says something very much like, “The sons of God are angels”. That would be a clear statement. There is no such statement.
You pointed to several passages where “sons of God” are mentioned, and made some logical leaps to support your assertion. Let me be “clear”: If an assertion requires logical leaps, it isn’t clearly stated!
So, perhaps next time, instead of going off on an irrelevant rant implying that others are inferior to you, read carefully what they are saying, don’t make assumptions, and definitely don't imply that they don't believe or adding to Scripture! Further, don't be a hypocrite, doing exactly what you criticize others for doing.
Since I know that Scripture doesn’t contain such a statement, I asked in post 215, “Where does God state clearly that the sons of God are angels?”
In post 217 you responded with, “The Holy Spirit stated it clearly and our LORD Jesus Christ, the Creator, also stated it clearly.”
In post 218 I responded, “You dodged that almost completely. WHERE in Scripture did the Holy Spirit state clearly that the sons of God are angels??" I gave more info in 219 and rephrased my question.
In post 221 you said, “I see your dilemma” and pointed me to post 118.
I responded in post 225 with “There is no dilemma. Job 1:6 and 2:1 both use the same Hebrew phrase bene ha'elohim. This means "sons of God", not "angels". The Hebrew word for angels is ha'malakim. It's a different root with a different meaning. In other words, you have still provided no evidence for your claim.”
Read on from there. I have provided evidence contradicting your claim. You have not provided clear evidence supporting it. Instead, you have advised me to just believe every word of Scripture… implying clearly that I don’t... while you blather on about "Christian love". I don't consider insults and arrogance to be consistent with Christian love at all.
Again, your claim, which I reject as erroneous:
“God clearly said that sons of God, which HE said are angels” or, more succinctly, “God clearly said that the sons of God are angels”.
At no time have I asserted that the sons of God are not angels, nor that they are humans, nor anything else. I am simply and directly challenging your assertion as you worded it.
God has not “clearly” said that the sons of God are angels. For your assertion to be true, there would have to be a text in Scripture where God says something very much like, “The sons of God are angels”. That would be a clear statement. There is no such statement.
You pointed to several passages where “sons of God” are mentioned, and made some logical leaps to support your assertion. Let me be “clear”: If an assertion requires logical leaps, it isn’t clearly stated!
So, perhaps next time, instead of going off on an irrelevant rant implying that others are inferior to you, read carefully what they are saying, don’t make assumptions, and definitely don't imply that they don't believe or adding to Scripture! Further, don't be a hypocrite, doing exactly what you criticize others for doing.
Can you SEE what Hebrews ch1 says?
To which of the angels did God, the FATHER, say You are My Son = singular and Today I have begotten You = singular.
Hebrews ch1 ONLY pertains to the virgin birth of Jesus = God becoming a man = "the WORD became flesh and dwelt among us"
Hebrews = ONLY Begotten Son of the Father
Now let's look at what the LORD Jesus said in Luke ch20 = here is your NT scripture denoting angels are sons of God
Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore,
for they are equal/like the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Here is the OT Scripture denoting "sons of God" are angels = Gen ch6, Job ch1 ch2 and ch38
ch 1 -Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.
ch 2 - Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
chapter 38
God gave eight distinct names to signify angels = #1 Sons of God and #2 Angels #3 Cherubim #4 Seraphim #5 Archangel #6 Messenger #7 Ministers #8 Flames of Fire
There may be more names as i did not do a exhaustive search
Example: Jesus is Elohim, the WORD, God, Son of God, Son of Man, Creator, the Holy One, Prince of Peace, Wonderful Counselor, Everlasting Father, the Way, the Truth and the Life, Redeemer, Alpha and Omega, Beginning and the End, and there are more.