NEPHILIM: DO THEY EXIST

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livingepistle

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By: LA Marzulli File

1. Are They Real? 2. Are They Among Us Today? 3. WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?
 
Aug 25, 2012
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yes they are it is completely biblical, go to stevequayle.com for more info. it's all in genesis, that subject is very important as it has to do with the times to come.
 
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kenisyes

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Nephilim are not creatures, they are humans with a specific office. You become a nephal (the singular) by getting angry with God, and attempting to punish Him by inviting a fallen angel to possess you. At least that is what the early literature says happened back in the day. The fallen angel then gives you knowledge not yet known on earth, with the expectation you will use that knowledge to draw people from God. Not exactly a Satanic pact with the devil, but kind of related. The Bible tells us they were on the earth even after the flood, and there is no reason someone could not do this today.
 
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If you all truly would like to know who they are, you must be prepared to let go of fantasies and superstitions.
 
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Nephilim are not creatures, they are humans with a specific office. You become a nephal (the singular) by getting angry with God, and attempting to punish Him by inviting a fallen angel to possess you. At least that is what the early literature says happened back in the day. The fallen angel then gives you knowledge not yet known on earth, with the expectation you will use that knowledge to draw people from God. Not exactly a Satanic pact with the devil, but kind of related. The Bible tells us they were on the earth even after the flood, and there is no reason someone could not do this today.
This is a lie from the pit of hell, they are disgusting creatures from the pit and you will soon find out, your hearts will fail you for fear and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth Luke 21:26: ie the return of the nephilim.
 
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1still_waters

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Let's take a look.

First let's find every place in the Bible the word Nephilim is located.

First I looked for the word Nephilim in the King James Version Bible.
The word Nephilim is nowhere to be found in the KJV Bible.

Next I looked in the New King James Version.
The word Nephilim isn't in the NKJV.

So I guess if you're a KJV onlyist, you can exit this discussion, seeing Nephilim don't exist.
If you primarily use the NKJV you may consider also exiting this discussion.

Is there a Bible translation that actually uses the word Nephilim?
Well lemme look.
(Yes I'm typing this as I go along.)

Oh my goodness!!!
THE NIV USES THE WORD NEPHILIM!!!!
Genesis 6:4, Numbers 13:33

Now we're in quite the predicament.
Two translations that many heavily rely on don't even have the word Nephilim.
ONE translation that many despise actually uses the word Nephilim.

Are people believing in the existence of something that seems to exist in things like the NIV?
*Shivers*

I report.
You decide.
 
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Nephilim has nothing to do with any of these things.
 
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1still_waters

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Just because I'm curious.
How many KJV onlyists believe Nephilim exist?
 
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Let's take a look.

First let's find every place in the Bible the word Nephilim is located.

First I looked for the word Nephilim in the King James Version Bible.
The word Nephilim is nowhere to be found in the KJV Bible.

Next I looked in the New King James Version.
The word Nephilim isn't in the NKJV.

So I guess if you're a KJV onlyist, you can exit this discussion, seeing Nephilim don't exist.
If you primarily use the NKJV you may consider also exiting this discussion.

Is there a Bible translation that actually uses the word Nephilim?
Well lemme look.
(Yes I'm typing this as I go along.)

Oh my goodness!!!
THE NIV USES THE WORD NEPHILIM!!!!
Genesis 6:4, Numbers 13:33

Now we're in quite the predicament.
Two translations that many heavily rely on don't even have the word Nephilim.
ONE translation that many despise actually uses the word Nephilim.

Are people believing in the existence of something that seems to exist in things like the NIV?
*Shivers*

I report.
You decide.
who are you talking to and what is your point?
 
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livingepistle

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Interesting response. thanks
 
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kenisyes

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Let's take a look.

First let's find every place in the Bible the word Nephilim is located.

First I looked for the word Nephilim in the King James Version Bible.
The word Nephilim is nowhere to be found in the KJV Bible.

Next I looked in the New King James Version.
The word Nephilim isn't in the NKJV.

So I guess if you're a KJV onlyist, you can exit this discussion, seeing Nephilim don't exist.
If you primarily use the NKJV you may consider also exiting this discussion.

Is there a Bible translation that actually uses the word Nephilim?
Well lemme look.
(Yes I'm typing this as I go along.)

Oh my goodness!!!
THE NIV USES THE WORD NEPHILIM!!!!
Genesis 6:4, Numbers 13:33

Now we're in quite the predicament.
Two translations that many heavily rely on don't even have the word Nephilim.
ONE translation that many despise actually uses the word Nephilim.

Are people believing in the existence of something that seems to exist in things like the NIV?
*Shivers*

I report.
You decide.
It's a Hebrew word. Maybe we should look at the original texts, and count from there. And in there, you get the two places the NIV uses it.
 

Angela53510

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Rather than use a 'translation" which is merely a translator trying to make things palatable to people who don't speak Hebrew, let us look at the Masoretic Text, which is the one that has the oldest manuscripts, including Books like Isaiah being the same in the Dead Sea scrolls as the MT. (Written well before the time of Christ!)

Gen. 6;4 starts with the word הנפלים, which transliterated means "the nephilim." noun, masculine plural, from the root verb נפל, which means "to fall". Brown-Driver -Briggs translates it as "giants" and of course it is the same in Numbers 13:33. The notes say that the etymology is "very dubious."

So are they "fallen ones" or "giants"? I think it is safe to say, we will never know in this life. As for figuring in the end times, well, LOL.
 
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1still_waters

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It's a Hebrew word. Maybe we should look at the original texts, and count from there. And in there, you get the two places the NIV uses it.
Which English translation do you primarily use?
 
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Just because I'm curious.
How many KJV onlyists believe Nephilim exist?
I'm not a "kjv onlyist" person but I know "they" exist. I know "who" they are. Regardless of what a bible may call them, it is but a simple matter. But who would hear?
 
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1still_waters

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I'm not a "kjv onlyist" person but I know "they" exist. I know "who" they are. Regardless of what a bible may call them, it is but a simple matter. But who would hear?
Which Bible verses do you believe verify the existence of what you call Nephilim?
 
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1still_waters

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Just to get this rolling further.
Can people please list the Bible verses you believe verify the existence of Nephilim?
I mean the Bible is a good place to start right?
 
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kenisyes

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"Giants" follows the Septuagint, which translates Nephalim as gigantes. The statement in the Septuagint is correct historically, but is not an accurate translation. The nephalim created the giants, as the writers of the Septuagint had been taught (it was common knowledge in the ancient world). They simply translated according to what they had been taught as children. Modern translators often do the same, like Noah's "deluge" is often called a "flood", because we do not explain the fountains of the deep in Sunday School.
 
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1still_waters

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"Giants" follows the Septuagint, which translates Nephalim as gigantes. The statement in the Septuagint is correct historically, but is not an accurate translation. The nephalim created the giants, as the writers of the Septuagint had been taught (it was common knowledge in the ancient world). They simply translated according to what they had been taught as children. Modern translators often do the same, like Noah's "deluge" is often called a "flood", because we do not explain the fountains of the deep in Sunday School.
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Which verses specifically teach the existence of Nephilim?
 
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kenisyes

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Which English translation do you primarily use?
The one in the computer programs, which is KJV. I rely on it only as an index, and go from the original texts for any point that may have a question.