Nephilim On The Ark
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Numbers 13
31 But the men who had gone up with him said, “We are not able to go up against the people, for they are stronger than we.” 32 And they gave the children of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, “The land through which we have gone as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great stature. 33 There we saw the giants[d] (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”
Footnotes:
Numbers 13:33 Hebrew nephilim
I just like having in context
here is another "giant" or "nephillim" Notice how GOD defeats this fusion of Fallen angels and men, a mixture of iron and clay?
1 Samuel 17
4 And a champion went out from the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, from Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. 5 He had a bronze helmet on his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail, and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of bronze. 6 And he had bronze armor on his legs and a bronze javelin between his shoulders. 7 Now the staff of his spear was like a weaver’s beam, and his iron spearhead weighed six hundred shekels; and a shield-bearer went before him. 8 Then he stood and cried out to the armies of Israel, and said to them, “Why have you come out to line up for battle? Am I not a Philistine, and you the servants of Saul? Choose a man for yourselves, and let him come down to me. 9 If he is able to fight with me and kill me, then we will be your servants. But if I prevail against him and kill him, then you shall be our servants and serve us."
43 So the Philistine said to David, “Am I a dog, that you come to me with sticks?” And the Philistine cursed David by his gods. 44 And the Philistine said to David, “Come to me, and I will give your flesh to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field!”
45 Then David said to the Philistine, “You come to me with a sword, with a spear, and with a javelin. But I come to you in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. 46 This day the LORD will deliver you into my hand, and I will strike you and take your head from you. And this day I will give the carcasses of the camp of the Philistines to the birds of the air and the wild beasts of the earth, that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel. 47 Then all this assembly shall know that the LORD does not save with sword and spear; for the battle is the LORD’s, and He will give you into our hands.”
31 But the men who had gone up with him said, “We are not able to go up against the people, for they are stronger than we.” 32 And they gave the children of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, “The land through which we have gone as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great stature. 33 There we saw the giants[d] (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”
Footnotes:
Numbers 13:33 Hebrew nephilim
I just like having in context
here is another "giant" or "nephillim" Notice how GOD defeats this fusion of Fallen angels and men, a mixture of iron and clay?
1 Samuel 17
4 And a champion went out from the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, from Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. 5 He had a bronze helmet on his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail, and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of bronze. 6 And he had bronze armor on his legs and a bronze javelin between his shoulders. 7 Now the staff of his spear was like a weaver’s beam, and his iron spearhead weighed six hundred shekels; and a shield-bearer went before him. 8 Then he stood and cried out to the armies of Israel, and said to them, “Why have you come out to line up for battle? Am I not a Philistine, and you the servants of Saul? Choose a man for yourselves, and let him come down to me. 9 If he is able to fight with me and kill me, then we will be your servants. But if I prevail against him and kill him, then you shall be our servants and serve us."
43 So the Philistine said to David, “Am I a dog, that you come to me with sticks?” And the Philistine cursed David by his gods. 44 And the Philistine said to David, “Come to me, and I will give your flesh to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field!”
45 Then David said to the Philistine, “You come to me with a sword, with a spear, and with a javelin. But I come to you in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. 46 This day the LORD will deliver you into my hand, and I will strike you and take your head from you. And this day I will give the carcasses of the camp of the Philistines to the birds of the air and the wild beasts of the earth, that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel. 47 Then all this assembly shall know that the LORD does not save with sword and spear; for the battle is the LORD’s, and He will give you into our hands.”
K
I understand all the sciptires on this issue. Two points I'd like to make:
When answering the Pharisees, Jesus said that "in the ressurection men will BE LIKE ANGELS NEITHER MARRYING OR GIVEN IN MARRIAGE> Thus angels, fallen or otherwise, do not marry (have sex).
Secondly, the Law of God's Creation says that "each produced AFTER ITS OWN KIND. Just as a fig tree cannot produce watermelons, it would violate God's Law for a created supernatural being (Nephilim) to be able to produce contrary to this law.
I know it is a "pet" thepory of many that a race of fallen angels created a hybrid race of half humans half whatever, but it didn't happen.
Kenneth2816, you are correct in saying that scripture says no marrying and giving in marriage, but it does not say anything in scripture about no sex. I've studied about the nephilim for many yrs. and I don't claim to know everything about them, but the existence of the fallen angels laying with the daughters of men, therefore producing nephilim not only is backed up by scripture, but also historically and archealogically. God's law say that we are NOT to mix seed, but as I'm sure you're well aware of man mixes seeds of everything on earth. The fallen angels violated God's rules in Heaven therefore they were booted out, why would they listen after that? Shalom
T
Gen: 6:4 - There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
In the many many translations it refers to "The Sons of God"... It would be interesting to know who or what the "Sons of God" are. If they are angles or sons of Adam.
In the many many translations it refers to "The Sons of God"... It would be interesting to know who or what the "Sons of God" are. If they are angles or sons of Adam.
Genesis 6:4
The word translated giants is actually Nephilim.
1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them." 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. 9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. 13 And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14 "Make yourself an ark of gopherwood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and outside with pitch. 15 And this is how you shall make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. 16 You shall make a window for the ark, and you shall finish it to a cubit from above; and set the door of the ark in its side. You shall make it with lower, second, and third decks. 17 And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die. 18 But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall go into the ark--you, your sons, your wife, and your sons' wives with you. 19 And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20 Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive. 21 And you shall take for yourself of all food that is eaten, and you shall gather it to yourself; and it shall be food for you and for them." 22 Thus Noah did; according to all that God commanded him, so he did. (Genesis 6)
The word translated giants is actually Nephilim.
1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them." 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. 9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. 13 And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14 "Make yourself an ark of gopherwood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and outside with pitch. 15 And this is how you shall make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. 16 You shall make a window for the ark, and you shall finish it to a cubit from above; and set the door of the ark in its side. You shall make it with lower, second, and third decks. 17 And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die. 18 But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall go into the ark--you, your sons, your wife, and your sons' wives with you. 19 And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20 Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive. 21 And you shall take for yourself of all food that is eaten, and you shall gather it to yourself; and it shall be food for you and for them." 22 Thus Noah did; according to all that God commanded him, so he did. (Genesis 6)
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II Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgement:
Jude 6
Amd the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Both of these passages are speaking of the time of Noah. It is easier to understand from the short Book of Jude. As it states here that these angels which are spirit, kept not their first estate (which is stating that they probably took fleshly bodies) and left their own habitation (this is they left their heavenly realm, to come to earth).
Some scholars believe this is what Paul was referring to in I Corinthians 11:10.
Thanson1975, just want to attempt to answer your question about "sons of God" In scripture we are never refered as the sons of God. But in Gen 6:4, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, The hebrew rendering for "sons of God" is "Bene Ha Elohim" "bene" meaning children or angels, well since it's obvious that "children" wouldn't make sense in this verse, it only fits that it is angels. Also in Gen. 6:4-6 it talks about the off spring being "mighty men" in the hebrew they are "Ha Gibborim" and in the greek translates as "gigantes" which is not giant but means "earth born" from the greek "gigas" I hope this answered your question. Shalom
M
Nephilim were on the earth BEFORE Noah and scripture says "and after". They are here even now because angels are still coming to the earth and some are sinning, lusting in their hearts and once they lust they cannot return to heaven.
There are some that think Obama has at least some Nephilim blood...it would explain a LOT!
Maggie
There are some that think Obama has at least some Nephilim blood...it would explain a LOT!
Maggie
K
I am not talking about "mixing seed" I am talking about the impossibility of angels breeding with humans. Just like humans breeding with animals and producing offspring. God's immutable laws of creation stand, period.
Further nowhere in the ancoient texts do the words "having sex" even appear. It is the bilical "knew". Marrying MEANT a sexual union, even in jesus time. That is what constitutes the "one flesh" idea God spoke of.
I'm sorry I don't mean to be dismissive. I know it is exotic and unique to think there was was a fallen race half angel half human.
M
4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. "and also afterward". There is no time specification, only that they were on the earth AFTER "those days", meaing the days of Noah. What is so hard to understand about "after Noah" ? That would be ANY time after Noah, INCLUDING NOW.
Maggie
Maggie