New King James Version Comparison Alert

[Baruch]

Deuteronomy 24:1, "then let him" should be "and he." As the Savior explained in Matthew 19, Moses did not command divorcement. This statute is regulating the permission of divorce because of the hardness of their hearts.

Deuteronomy 24:1When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give[it] in her hand, and send her out of his house.

No. Uncleanness can be attributed to not being a virgin or some other matter of unchastity. Consider reading on:


2And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
3And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; 4Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

So the matter isn't about "if" the man wrote his wife a bill of divorcement, but when as the man would be directed by the Lord to do so for finding uncleanness in his wife, and thus instructing him not to take her back.. even when after this wife marries another and her second husband had died; the first husband still must follow the Lord in not taking her back in as his wife at all, because of the matter of uncleanness.

 

[Baruch]

2 Kings 2:23, should be "young men", not "little children."

2 Kings 2:2323And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

Sounds like the behaviour of little children to me.

qatan
kaw-tawn'

or qaton {kaw-tone'}; from 'quwt' (6962); abbreviated, i.e. diminutive, literally (in quantity, size or number) or figuratively (in age or importance):--least, less(-er), little (one), small(-est, one, quantity, thing), young(-er, -est).

na`ar
nah'-ar

from 'na`ar' (5287); (concretely) a boy (as active), from the age of infancy to adolescence; by implication, a servant; also (by interch. of sex), a girl (of similar latitude in age):--babe, boy, child, damsel (from the margin), lad, servant, young (man).

I would think that little children reads better than little young men.

It gets worse for those little children.

2 Kings 2:2324And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

I would believe it is far more plausible for a group of little children teasing an old man than it is for a bunch of young men to be doing so whom just happen to be all little.

 

[Baruch]

Isaiah 65:17 should be "I am creating [am about to create] new heavens and new earth . . . ."

I disagree. That makes God sound even more confusing as every reader and hearer are waiting for Him to act on what He is saying as in He is doing it now. "I am creating" cannot be taken in any other way, whereas reading the King James, one can understand a prophecy is being stated here.

Isaiah 65:

16That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.
17For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. 20There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

 

[Thaddaeus]

It would be good to quote from a non-KJV only website that is not biased ( this AV1611 is basically a cult ) however yes MKJV isn't perfect but it does fix up the problems with the KJV that is likewise, not perfect. For example their issue with the word ****ed instead of condemned is very picky, the greek work according to Strong's means either ****ed or condemned. Daniel 3:25 regarding son of the gods (i.e. an angelic being ) or Son of God, depends whether you believe it was an angel in the fire, or Jesus Christ. I think it was an angel because Jesus Christ didn't come to earth yet!

A list of KJV translation errors that are probably good to take note of:



any body can say that this should say this or should say that and that this is wrong and that is wrong but that doesn't make it wrong. I can say that the weather was wrong today because it was suppose to be sunny, but it rained, you can't compare it to someone elses opinion, but rather the manuscripts which it was taken I don't see where this was done, all I see is someone attacking the the Word of God that was the Word about 300 hundred years before all these other translations came along, if all these so called errors are errors, then how do we know that any of it is true. thanks for helping the critics Of God try and prove their point A job well done I am not sure what kind of reward we will receive for attacking the Word of God, But you certainly deserve it what ever it may be !!

 

[Baruch]

Ezekiel 20:25 should read "Wherefore I permitted them, or gave them over to, [false] statutes that are not good, and judgments whereby they should not live." God's laws are good, perfect and right. This verse shows that since Israel rejected God's laws, He allowed them to hurt themselves by following false man made customs and laws.

God doesn't lie by giving false statutes. He simply stated that He issued statues or guidelines that were not to their good for despising his statutes that were for their good. As there are statues and the rewards for following them.. there are statutes issued for following them and the punishment for doing them. God is making it clear that by not following His statutes that comes with blessings, there will be statutes issued by Him that are not to their good for doing them... as there are statutes... declaring good and there are statues for declaring what is evil.

Ezekiel 20:24Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols. 25Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; 26And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD.

After going over seven from that list, I can pretty much say... the list of errors from the King James Bible are exaggerated. Readers need to ask the Lord for wisdom in reading His words. That is a given, even for the King James Bible as athiests can read it and still not believe in God nor find any answers because they are not looking for any.

 

[Baruch]

The core teachings and message of the gospel remains in tact thanks to God and His sovereignty. All the bible coincides with each book even though there is a great amount of time between certain books and letters. That alone testifies to the authenticity of this compilation of scriptures regardless of the translation.

I read the NAS with more ease than the kjv and have relied on the Holy Spirit for the interpretation. I think thats the best way to go about reading the bible since He did afterall give us His Spirit for this purpose.

I would use John 5:39-40 as a guide in reading the various Bibles for by that way, if the King James testify of Jesus as other versions would change it to put the emphasis on man or the Spirit, then I would lean on the King James Bible for the correct meaning of God's words since both the faithful witness and the inner Holy Spirit is written in the scriptures to testify of the Son so as to glorify the Son as well.

Thank you for sharing your input.

 

[Sinnner]

It would be good to quote from a non-KJV only website that is not biased ( this AV1611 is basically a cult ) however yes MKJV isn't perfect but it does fix up the problems with the KJV that is likewise, not perfect. For example their issue with the word ****ed instead of condemned is very picky, the greek work according to Strong's means either ****ed or condemned. Daniel 3:25 regarding son of the gods (i.e. an angelic being ) or Son of God, depends whether you believe it was an angel in the fire, or Jesus Christ. I think it was an angel because Jesus Christ didn't come to earth yet!

A list of KJV translation errors that are probably good to take note of:



any body can say that this should say this or should say that and that this is wrong and that is wrong but that doesn't make it wrong. I can say that the weather was wrong today because it was suppose to be sunny, but it rained, you can't compare it to someone elses opinion, but rather the manuscripts which it was taken I don't see where this was done, all I see is someone attacking the the Word of God that was the Word about 300 hundred years before all these other translations came along, if all these so called errors are errors, then how do we know that any of it is true. thanks for helping the critics Of God try and prove their point A job well done I am not sure what kind of reward we will receive for attacking the Word of God, But you certainly deserve it what ever it may be !!

LOL.......

 

[MahogonySnail]

After going over seven from that list, I can pretty much say... the list of errors from the King James Bible are exaggerated.

lol, and that KJV-only cult website av1611 you quoted also exaggerated the errors in the MKJV. For example, I don't really care if it says ****ed or condemned, means the same thing to me.

any body can say that this should say this or should say that and that this is wrong and that is wrong but that doesn't make it wrong. I can say that the weather was wrong today because it was suppose to be sunny, but it rained, you can't compare it to someone elses opinion, but rather the manuscripts which it was taken I don't see where this was done, all I see is someone attacking the the Word of God that was the Word about 300 hundred years before all these other translations came along, if all these so called errors are errors, then how do we know that any of it is true. thanks for helping the critics Of God try and prove their point A job well done I am not sure what kind of reward we will receive for attacking the Word of God, But you certainly deserve it what ever it may be !!

Sorry Thaddeus, those attacks of yours are uncalled for. Just because I'm not a KJV-only cultist. Not to knock the KJV, that's just the facts. It has mistakes in it. No translation is absolutely perfect but it's the best that they can do.

 

[Thaddaeus]

lol, and that KJV-only cult website av1611 you quoted also exaggerated the errors in the MKJV. For example, I don't really care if it says ****ed or condemned, means the same thing to me.






Sorry Thaddeus, those attacks of yours are uncalled for. Just because I'm not a KJV-only cultist. Not to knock the KJV, that's just the facts. It has mistakes in it. No translation is absolutely perfect but it's the best that they can do.

Ac 4:19But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.

For it is said in the Word of God :

2ti 3:16All scripture is given by INSPIRATION of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

 

[MahogonySnail]

Exactly but that doesn't mean the word turtle in the KJV should not have been turtle doves. No translation from an original language, be it Greek or Hebrew, can be absolutely perfect in every way. At least I have not found one yet. Neither can our modern day understanding and reading of english get a perfect grasp or understand KJV 16th centuary english.

 

[Thaddaeus]

lol, and that KJV-only cult website av1611 you quoted also exaggerated the errors in the MKJV. For example, I don't really care if it says ****ed or condemned, means the same thing to me.






Sorry Thaddeus, those attacks of yours are uncalled for. Just because I'm not a KJV-only cultist. Not to knock the KJV, that's just the facts. It has mistakes in it. No translation is absolutely perfect but it's the best that they can do.

I attack you for attacking the King James Bible, the Authorized Version for almost 400 years now , and you are justified and I am in the Wrong. I believe that if God could inspire people the write the manuscripts then He can also inspire people to translate a True translation into the english langauge, One problem I have with all new modern perversions is you have to belittle the the Word of God, well the Niv , NASB, the Living translation is easier to understand over the KjB. so Sir it's your attack on the Holy Bible that is Highly uncalled for

 

[MahogonySnail]

Of course God can inspire anything. He could have inspired the KJV to fall from the sky penned in gold lettering, untouched by man. But He didn't. Why?

I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm saying get off your high horse about me attacking the KJV bible as if it carries some sort of eternal penalty or judgement. I'm not attacking it, I'm showing how it's not perfect. Even KJV organisations will list the errors in its own bible.
If you are a qualified pastor, you should have learnt about this in bible college or theological college. Did you? If not I'd get my money back from that college.

 

[carpetmanswife]

The core teachings and message of the gospel remains in tact thanks to God and His sovereignty. All the bible coincides with each book even though there is a great amount of time between certain books and letters. That alone testifies to the authenticity of this compilation of scriptures regardless of the translation.

I read the NAS with more ease than the kjv and have relied on the Holy Spirit for the interpretation. I think thats the best way to go about reading the bible since He did afterall give us His Spirit for this purpose.

Yep..and its better to obey God than man after all..i think we all can agree on that.

 

[Thaddaeus]

Yep..and its better to obey God than man after all..i think we all can agree on that.

Check this out :

John 4:29 (King James Version)


29Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?


John 4:29 (New American Standard Bible)


29"Come, see a man (A)who told me all the things that I have done; (B)this is not the Christ, is it?"

Cross references:

1. John 4:29 : John 4:17
2. John 4:29 : Matt 12:23; John 7:26, 31

This is not the Christ?? I know you won't have any problem with it. But to me that is scary

 

[MahogonySnail]

this is not the Christ, is it?"

You failed to bold the "is it". It's a rhetorical question.
It's not scary, you just can't understand simple english.

 

[carpetmanswife]

thanks mahogany, thaddeaus plz dont try and pick a fight with me..ive been quite nice

 

[Kakashi]

King James Bible
Hebrews 10: 14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

New King James Version
Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.


With these and the "are being" verses, is it not possible that they both mean the same thing, just being said the same way? "are being sanctified" could be interpreted a a progressive for more people becoming sanctified on going in time. i do not see a big reason to make such a hissy fit over this.

Am I wrong?

On a side note, i understand spirited debate, but it sounds like some of yall are taking this WAY too kneejerkingly personal. Show some love will ya?

 

[Thaddaeus]

Of course God can inspire anything. He could have inspired the KJV to fall from the sky penned in gold lettering, untouched by man. But He didn't. Why?

I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm saying get off your high horse about me attacking the KJV bible as if it carries some sort of eternal penalty or judgement. I'm not attacking it, I'm showing how it's not perfect. Even KJV organisations will list the errors in its own bible.
If you are a qualified pastor, you should have learnt about this in bible college or theological college. Did you? If not I'd get my money back from that college.

I wouldn't Dare attend a Bible college or a theological college that rips apart the Word of God, they are suppose to teach the Word not destory it. second your pride sir will go before you, can you show me from Scriptures where going to College qualifies you to pastor, I can show you this verse, and share with you that Wigglesworth a great preacher in the pentecosta movement never read any other book except "The Book", the Holy Bible.

Ac 4:13Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were UNLEARNED and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

So I guess from your statement here, that your church wouldn't allow Peter or John to Preach at your Church, for it appears here, neither one of them had a degree hanging on their wall.

so regardless of all the attacks that you or any other person can dish Out , I believe that I will stay with God, And I don't think God would had given us a Bible Inspired By Him, full of errors for almost 400 years, when he promises

Mt 24:35Heaven and earth shall PASS AWAY, but my words shall not PASS AWAY.

I will give up My King James Bible, when they pry my cold dead fingers from around it

 

[MahogonySnail]

So Thaddeus I take it that given you like to call yourself a pastor, you have no formal training as a pastor? And you're saying my pride goes before me? You're the one without any bible degree and calling yourself a pastor.

Oh well if we can make up our job descriptions without needing a bible degree, I think I'm an apostle, and that means I outrank you as apostles outrank pastors according to the offices in the new testament church..

lol , just kidding.

Seriously if you are going to be bantering your views around as what's what and call yourself a pastor you better have some proof you are a pastor. Because I'm not a pastor but some of the things you get wrong are elementary that I would expect from a new christian not from someone who calls himself a pastor.

 

[MahogonySnail]

My point is most pastors I've known acknowledge the limitations of the bible versions, including the KJV, and aren't so ignorant to the errors in the KJV.