NIV has left out some scripture

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Hal51

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scriptures missing from NIV matt 24:25, mark 7:16, mark 9:44,46 mark 15:38 mark11:26 luke 17:36 luke 23:17 John 5:4 acts 8:37 act 15:34 acts 24:7 acts 28:29 Romans 16:24. Please tell me your thoughts.
 
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For the most part they're missing because they're missing from most of the ancient copies the NIV used to retranslate. Most of the verses are pretty minor.
 
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spacefreak

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niv just takes the kjv and puts it in modern day English instead of old English,
 
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Some of the verses were taken out because of the variety of manuscripts used. Some of them were also in the Latin Vulgate which was not the original language the Bible was written in originally. Some of the verses that were written in the Latin Vulgate and not in the Greek or Hebrew Manuscripts were taken out. That's pretty much it. They are really minor differences. It is nothing worth losing sleep over.
 
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cfultz3

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It is always wise for one to do their own investigation into the fidelity of any translation. A simple web search of 'niv bible errors' will help one to make their own decision in the correctness of the NIV. It would also be wise to do a search on the authors of that translation.
 
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wdeaton65

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niv owned by murdock who owns fox and porn sites you dont get good fruit from a bad tree and light and darkness cant be in the same place. Look up westcott and hort real tuff study but it will help you in the end Blessings.
 
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Hal51

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Yep I've herd some bad things about the people who put out the NIV.
 
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Laodicea

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[FONT=&quot]Whole Verses Omitted[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Matthew 17:21 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 18:11 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 23:14[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] Mark 7:16 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 9:44 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 9:46 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 11:26 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 15:28[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Luke 17:36[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 23:17[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] John 5:4 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Acts 8:37[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 15:34[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 24:7[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 28:29[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Romans 16:24 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1 John 5:7[/FONT]
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Laodicea

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The NIV and KJV are translated from different sources that is why they are different. The question is which source is correct not which version is correct.
 
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Laodicea

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NIV Bible Memory Plan

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wwjd_kilden

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Soooo..... you would rather have people read a version they don't understand than an understandable version who is a bit different? ;) Hmmmmmm

(PS: I read both... I think.... We don't advertise "this is NIV and this is KJV" in Norway, but I have a eaily readable Norwegian version and a KJ english version).... plus a German one and a couple of other Norwegian ones :p) .
 

Agricola

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People have told me I am going to burn in hell for reading an NIV... yes sure I am. NOT. I hate to think what these KJ only people think of all the poor condemed souls living in non English speaking countries, I guess they think they should all learn English and read the King James in English in order to be saved, so likes of wwjd_kilden should burn her Norwegien translation and just stick with the King James.

People have already explained why the verses are "missing" but they are not really missing. My NIV has all the so called missing verses printed on bottom of page, sure tiny writing, but they still print the "missing" verse.

This is also why its important to learn how to study properly, use several versions of Bible and even Strongs numbering, compare verses, if one verse is wildley different to another, then a check another Bible and see what that says.

I get the impression that most of the King James only people seem to think the apostles etc all went around speaking English, they fail to understand the complexities of translating ancient documents in Greek, Hebrew and Latin to modern English. In reality, they should really be telling us to learn Greek and Hebrew and Latin and read the early documents. I have noticed a number of inacurate translation and use of English words in the King James over the years, looking at original Hebrew and Greek showed the true reflection and deeper meaning that a single word emphasises, which needs several sentences to convey in English.
 

JaumeJ

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If it is our Heavenly Father's will, a person will learn the truth from a Betty Crocker Cookbook. I know this to be true because of what occurred when the Holy Spirit entered into me, and I was reading the Word for the first time. When I shared with others, and there were many, many times I would open my mouth and speak, and from what I said, I learned also. I would read what had been said for the very first time ever after having said this. Now, I have read the entire Word many times, so that does not happen so much now, and why should it? I have read, prayed, meditated, and absorbed what has been given to me. The Holy Spirit gives everyone all they need know about salvation. Our salvation is so individual that individual needs are met in order for the salvation to take place because our Father knows each of us that well, praise Him, He is worthy, amen-
 
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PeteWaldo

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People have told me I am going to burn in hell for reading an NIV... yes sure I am. NOT. I hate to think what these KJ only people think ........
Typical of many King James (and TR) detractors (let alone Westcott and Hort fans).
Which of the people in this thread thus far, indicated they were "KJ only people"?
....... of all the poor condemed souls living in non English speaking countries, I guess they think they should all learn English and read the King James in English in order to be saved, so likes of wwjd_kilden should burn her Norwegien translation and just stick with the King James.
Then you continue on with your straw man.
 
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PeteWaldo

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For the most part they're missing because they're missing from most of the ancient copies the NIV used to retranslate. Most of the verses are pretty minor.
Where is the evidence that the authors of the NIV used "ancient copies", rather than relying primarily on the 19th century minority Greek text of Westcott and Hort? A web search suggests the latter to me.
 
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Where is the evidence that the authors of the NIV used "ancient copies", rather than relying primarily on the 19th century minority Greek text of Westcott and Hort? A web search suggests the latter to me.
If you want the most straightforward source read John Gills commentary. He mentions that the verses are missing and what MMS they are missing from in quite a few cases.
 
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SantoSubito

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To clarify what others have said: The NIV leaves out some verses that aren't found in the Critical (or Minority) text, but that are found in the Majority text, the Vetus Latina, and the Vulgate. The reason for this is because the oldest complete (mostly) Codices, Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus, are missing some or all of them.

A more honest approach to these disputed verses is to leave them in the text in italics.
 
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wdeaton65

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This is a good way to learn about how the Bible came about. Brothers and Sisters be nice to each other Dan. 12;4 says at the end knowledge would increase it has not helped my spelling lol. All of you on here have the internet at your fingertips not everything out there is true take your time and most of all the Holy Spirit and start looking into who theses people were that did the translations. Remember it is truth we are looking for. Make sure you look at francis bacon and john dee on the kj only types. It is going to be very hard to understand and some times scary but if you are wanting to know GOD and HIS WORD and HIS SON through HIS SPIRIT these are all one in the same. We have got to look at who the people were. Also the original kj had 80 books now 66. John dee who was francis bacons mentor real nice guy mason, devil worshiper and spy for the queen he used the symbol of two ball cain get it 007 you can see his handy work all over hollywood and federal reserve notes USA great seal and so on. That is why not all should be teachers or translators. Paul was a pharisee of pharisees and he had to learn and study for about 12 -14 years after he became born again. I am just saying be careful.
 
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Anonimous

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People have told me I am going to burn in hell for reading an NIV... yes sure I am. NOT. I hate to think what these KJ only people think of all the poor condemed souls living in non English speaking countries, I guess they think they should all learn English and read the King James in English in order to be saved, so likes of wwjd_kilden should burn her Norwegien translation and just stick with the King James.

People have already explained why the verses are "missing" but they are not really missing. My NIV has all the so called missing verses printed on bottom of page, sure tiny writing, but they still print the "missing" verse.

This is also why its important to learn how to study properly, use several versions of Bible and even Strongs numbering, compare verses, if one verse is wildley different to another, then a check another Bible and see what that says.

I get the impression that most of the King James only people seem to think the apostles etc all went around speaking English, they fail to understand the complexities of translating ancient documents in Greek, Hebrew and Latin to modern English. In reality, they should really be telling us to learn Greek and Hebrew and Latin and read the early documents. I have noticed a number of inacurate translation and use of English words in the King James over the years, looking at original Hebrew and Greek showed the true reflection and deeper meaning that a single word emphasises, which needs several sentences to convey in English.
Ask them if they think Jesus and Paul used the KJV
 
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nonicknametouse

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I moved from NJ. where I was a member of a churchfor 15 yrs. and the Pastor used the NIV and so did the congregation. I now live in AR. (the bible belt) and everyone here uses the King James. Proverbs 30:6 The Lord will take care of those who mess with His word, if that is the case. I asked myself these questions; Am I able to minister with either bibles, yes. Do I get fed when I read either bibles, yes. Are they both God's truth, yes. And if only one of them were available to read would I , yes. I was taught to major on the majors and miner on the miners. This is a minor. This opens the door for the enemy to use to cause division among the brethern. I covered my bible so no one would get offended. It really is no ones business what bible I use. So my suggestion is to use the bible your comfortable with and Praise the Lord that we can still won bibles in the USA. Amen.