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She did not say that..again you are twisting the words around...again,she never said that...what she said is not scripture.
In John 16:7-9, Jesus said: "I tell you the truth, it is profitable for you that I should go away; for unless I go away the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: in regard to sin, because they do not believe in Me;

Obviously, non-believers are not saved, and yet God is working in them none-the-less.[/QUOTE]

How odd you do not accept the Holy Spirit is working in people/non-believers to cause conviction of sin.[/QUOTE]

LOL. I gave Scripture that plainly shows non-believers are convicted by the Holy Spirit, but you reject it, and then pretend I am trying to force you to see it my way because you asked me to show you the Scripture, even after I already did. Don't expect me to respond again.

Those with eyes to see, see.
maybe you misread her sis, but here are three posts, in all three she says what I have shown she says
 

Guojing

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The law never saved anyone, because no one kept the law, Paul showed this in his letter to the galations
I am not saying keeping the law saved anyone.

I am asking did the Jews had to try keep the law during the 4 gospels or was that optional
For them?
 

Guojing

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there is no sacrifice in the Law for murder.
Yes that was why he was afraid he would be cut off

But after God forgave him out of his mercy, did he have to continue with the law after that?
 

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Salvation is by grace through Faith ( Hence the name i chose )
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
No what some do is add ' but '

Does you salvation message include a 'but '
For Example : ' But you have to repent of your sins "

But that faith is never alone ( calvinists)

"But you can't just live how you want and still expect ....."

"But .....

Why are some adding to :
.8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: ?

Can it be that it really is good news ?[/QUOTE

No but... HOWEVER, God only chooses to give grace to thee obedient.
 

OneFaith

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No but... HOWEVER, God only chooses to give grace to thee obedient
 

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God forgave him out of his mercy

why don't you see?

this is the gospel, the one and only gospel, and it was at work in David even then. a son died, in David's place, that he might have life, and David knew he would go to him
 

Guojing

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why don't you see?

this is the gospel, the one and only gospel, and it was at work in David even then. a son died, in David's place, that he might have life, and David knew he would go to him
Did David have to try to keep the law after that forgiveness?

I am asking you a simple yes or no question
 

OneFaith

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Yes we always have to obey God’s law without ceasing.
 

OneFaith

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How do you delete old conversations and alerts?
 

Guojing

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lol paul quoted moses

ice try
So your conclusion is that once Jesus arrived in the flesh, the Jews no longer have to try to keep the Law, because they have already read Moses and understood that the law was meant to lead them to Christ?
 
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So your conclusion is that once Jesus arrived in the flesh, the Jews no longer have to try to keep the Law, because they have already read Moses and understood that the law was meant to lead them to Christ?
Moses told the jews they would be cursed unless the obeyed every word. Ie sinless perfection

jesus was the only man who fulfilled that word.

the law never saved anyone, that is clear from scripture
 

Guojing

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Moses told the jews they would be cursed unless the obeyed every word. Ie sinless perfection

jesus was the only man who fulfilled that word.

the law never saved anyone, that is clear from scripture
I already stated, I never say the Law did save anyone.

I am asking you whether a Jew needed to try to keep the Law during the 4 gospels time period to remain in the covenant that God made with the nation Israel in Mount Sinai? It a simple yes or no question