No Longer to Obey Commandments
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For seniors (who paid employment taxes for more than 25 years) living on Social Security, food prices have doubled twice in the last three years and gasoline, utilities, and insurance has increased substantially. I am managing and not asking for anything! Those at the bottom of the wage scale are really hurting! Their income has increased by about $5 per person over the same three years. Do you regard the commandment to relieve the poor to be as binding as the commandments you choose to obey?
I iz one of those seniors......and I paid taxes for 66 years....... 
Are you sure which commandments I choose to obey are? Just asking, because I have not provided a list of any such.
Are you sure which commandments I choose to obey are? Just asking, because I have not provided a list of any such.
V
I believe this is a trick question, like, "When did you stop beating up your wife?" Any answer will verify that you are beating up your wife. LOL
Because the answer is YES if you are talking about the soul and body (your emotions and your 5 senses) and NO if you are talking about the spirit.
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LOLBecause the answer is YES if you are talking about the soul and body (your emotions and your 5 senses) and NO if you are talking about the spirit.
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Ok lemme see if I can do this.........
Oldhermit
Being under the New covenant all Christians, whether Jew or Gentile are obligated to obey whatever is given by way of command within that covenant just as those who were once under the Old Covenant were obligated to obey everything given to them. But, as the Hebrew writer points out, the first covenant has been taken out of the way and NO ONE is obligated any longer to the ordinances and regulations of that covenant. Both covenants cannot be in force at the same time.
Elin
Is there any other way to obey in the material order?
We must obey the principles involved, which may not mean the same practices.
NOW we are getting somewhere.............but y'all know someone will disagree right? Just saying.
Anyway, thanks for all the effort put forth here........God bless...........
Oldhermit
Being under the New covenant all Christians, whether Jew or Gentile are obligated to obey whatever is given by way of command within that covenant just as those who were once under the Old Covenant were obligated to obey everything given to them. But, as the Hebrew writer points out, the first covenant has been taken out of the way and NO ONE is obligated any longer to the ordinances and regulations of that covenant. Both covenants cannot be in force at the same time.
Elin
Is there any other way to obey in the material order?
We must obey the principles involved, which may not mean the same practices.
NOW we are getting somewhere.............but y'all know someone will disagree right? Just saying.
Anyway, thanks for all the effort put forth here........God bless...........
M
The commandments of Christ is not the law of Moses...
Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Joh 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Joh 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
What specific physical commandments/instructions from the Apostles are you referring to and to who might they apply to?
Once a person hears and believes the Gospel of our salvation and begins their walk in faith with Christ they become sealed with His Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13) this coming after they have been drawn by the Father (John 6:44) and after being called to the Word to begin with. When He dawns and rises in a persons heart at a undetermined time later on, the person anointed is brought into all truth by His Spirit and will eventually need no more instructions from men but will be governed by God's Spirit within him. (1 John 2:27). The New Testament letters outside the 4 Gospels and ministry of men called to our most respected and honored occupation work as training wheels until the person anointed is brought into all truth through the Spirit. Men have been appointed to minister and instruct those unlearned until they come into the unity of the faith to the stature of the fulness of Christ.(Ephesians 4:13). The Old and New Testament including the 4 Gospels serve the same purpose.......(Timothy 3:16).
Once a person hears and believes the Gospel of our salvation and begins their walk in faith with Christ they become sealed with His Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13) this coming after they have been drawn by the Father (John 6:44) and after being called to the Word to begin with. When He dawns and rises in a persons heart at a undetermined time later on, the person anointed is brought into all truth by His Spirit and will eventually need no more instructions from men but will be governed by God's Spirit within him. (1 John 2:27). The New Testament letters outside the 4 Gospels and ministry of men called to our most respected and honored occupation work as training wheels until the person anointed is brought into all truth through the Spirit. Men have been appointed to minister and instruct those unlearned until they come into the unity of the faith to the stature of the fulness of Christ.(Ephesians 4:13). The Old and New Testament including the 4 Gospels serve the same purpose.......(Timothy 3:16).
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Btw, i apologize if i might have interrupted an on going discussion away from the question you presented here. Often i leave a window open and add to my response as i'm able while doing things at home like being a dad to my 15 month old son,cooking dinner, or keeping six dogs and a wife entertained. So there are other things that pull me away from responding as promptly as i would like to but given the opportunity i usually will respond.
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Does it matter what people say? Does it matter what i say? What matters is what the Word of God says and teaches.
I John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
Now people will be more than happy to tell you what they THINK His Commandments are, When i have asked people about this verse, what are His Commandments, 9 times out of 10 they will say His Commandments are the 10 commandments. So let us continue with what the APOSTLE JOHN is going to tell us, and pay attention the APOSTLE JOHN is going to plainly tell us exactly what HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE, and it is NOT what men of this generation is teaching, no surprise though, it is the last days generation that is teaching things contrary to Scriptures.
I John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment, That we should 1) believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and 2) LOVE ONE ANOTHER, as He gave us commandment. 24 And He that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in Him, and he in Him. And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us.
Could the APOSTLE JOHN have told us more plainly what HIS COMMANDMENTS are? i don't think so, its so simple that children can understand it. But not this generation, This generation teaches that His Commandments are the 10 commandment, which is CONTRARY to what the APOSTLE JOHN just plainly told in in the Word of God, And the APOSTLE JOHN saw and lived with Jesus Christ for 3 years, and the HOLY SPIRIT of Truth told the APOSTLE JOHN what to say in what would later be called the Word of God.
So then do i believe the Apostle John that His Commandments are 1) Believe on Jesus Christ and 2) Love one another
or
believe the false teachers of today that teach His Commandments are the 10 Commandments?
me and my house will believe the Word of God and not the words of men. nor their interpretations, which according to Scriptures belong to God and not to men.
^i^ Responding to OP
I John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
Now people will be more than happy to tell you what they THINK His Commandments are, When i have asked people about this verse, what are His Commandments, 9 times out of 10 they will say His Commandments are the 10 commandments. So let us continue with what the APOSTLE JOHN is going to tell us, and pay attention the APOSTLE JOHN is going to plainly tell us exactly what HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE, and it is NOT what men of this generation is teaching, no surprise though, it is the last days generation that is teaching things contrary to Scriptures.
I John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment, That we should 1) believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and 2) LOVE ONE ANOTHER, as He gave us commandment. 24 And He that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in Him, and he in Him. And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us.
Could the APOSTLE JOHN have told us more plainly what HIS COMMANDMENTS are? i don't think so, its so simple that children can understand it. But not this generation, This generation teaches that His Commandments are the 10 commandment, which is CONTRARY to what the APOSTLE JOHN just plainly told in in the Word of God, And the APOSTLE JOHN saw and lived with Jesus Christ for 3 years, and the HOLY SPIRIT of Truth told the APOSTLE JOHN what to say in what would later be called the Word of God.
So then do i believe the Apostle John that His Commandments are 1) Believe on Jesus Christ and 2) Love one another
or
believe the false teachers of today that teach His Commandments are the 10 Commandments?
me and my house will believe the Word of God and not the words of men. nor their interpretations, which according to Scriptures belong to God and not to men.
^i^ Responding to OP
Tell me , and answer logically if God says do not murder shall we murder ? If He says you shall have no other Gods , shall we ? If God says do not make any idols or bow down worship then , shall we ? and if the Word of God says that God blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy then shall his service be not revered. we shall you receive your Abraham Lincoln's birthday or Hanukkah for Christmas higher than God? I think not! you see the Ten Commandments were there with the directive they are things that God hates so God puts commandments that you shall not ignore these things that God hates and commandments of God is every form of righteousness so.so as children of God we will show hate evil and everything the gods hate the show hate also so feeling the promise of the Lord in love in the commandment of loving one another as we love ourselves or to better say to love one another as Christ loved us by walking in the love of Christ obeying everything that Christ followed after the father for He is holy he has gave you his blood so you could be holy and holy you shall be , free says be holy for I am holy as we will give in the spirit of breath of life by the Holy Spirit instills with the inner part of the Spirit and His likeness of his image as we were made to glorify God for His holy purpose only