NO NEW REVELATION!!!

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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST

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Is it just me or are there a plethora of people claiming to have received "new revelations" from their said Jesus and their said God. Just look on the internet for instance, there all over the place!:(

I received the Jesus Christ of John's Revelation. I won't receive anyone else's Jesus. But there are so many books, websites, cd's etc. of people claiming to have hidden truths revealed to them from their said Jesus or their said God. I'ts literally out of control!

Another thing, they never seem to be able to agree on anything. Not only that they usually don't have their positions supported by scripture and if they do it is their interpretation or taken out of context.

They say, "follow me! I will support your lifestyle, see I do it, I'm ok, I'm saved!" Or, "believe MY Jesus and what MY Jesus just revealed to me or your not saved," and the like.

How does someone discern! People follow people! People like to hear what they want to hear. Believe me, if someone wants to hear something they can find someone who will tell them exactly what they want to hear.

Honest question that I ask myself, where is your faith, in the word of God and the Revelation of Jesus Christ or someone else's Jesus?

Why doesn't anyone say they received the Jesus of John's Revelation?

Is it always implied?

Am I the only one who makes an effort to say this?

*I am just very concerned. Please let me know if you have noticed these things as well*:(
 
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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST said:
Why doesn't anyone say they received the Jesus of John's Revelation?
Is it always implied?
Am I the only one who makes an effort to say this?
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I have never heard anyone say that, no. There is only one Jesus Christ. I think most people know Who you mean when you say His name. If they mean something entirely different that will soon become apparent enough. Also, I tend to stay away from false teachers. I don't know where y'all find them all!
 
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I didn't receive my Savior from Johns revelation , I received my Savor as per John 6:44, the Father drew me, my Savior received me, His Spirit dwells within me, anything good you see in me, is Him in me, and just as he has given us power to become His beloved children, so we are empowered to share what we have, not of or for ourselves but because he fist loved us.
If your concerned about so many different teachers and opinions just ask yourself this: is the Fathers arm shortened that he cannot save? does he know it when even a sparrow falls to the ground? to whom much is given much is required, we all have a specific calling and skillset to build up or tear down, there are always those who choose to go their own way, its nothing new, just prayerfully search out the word and live what you learn, and follow this wise council: prov. 3:5-6 it will save you much needless heartache, the scripture says there will always be false teachers, (this side of the kingdom to come anyway) the antidote is to obey 2 Tim. 2:15, if your armed with truth you need not be deceived, and as many as seek will surely find.
So just serve Him and seek His face daily he will never lead you down a wrong path, a hard path, yes but never a wrong one, trust Him, He loves you.
 
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I found out why 99% of christians dont know how the bible was put together. When I say put together, I mean how the 66 books were chosen out of 180+ books, letters,etc., and how they were orderred from Genisis to Revelations as well. The answer is so demoralizing. Why would God choose the Pope to be in charge of this project, and why didnt they show their work on why they felt God told them to pic this book and put it here? Can anyone help?
 
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I found out why 99% of christians dont know how the bible was put together. When I say put together, I mean how the 66 books were chosen out of 180+ books, letters,etc., and how they were orderred from Genisis to Revelations as well. The answer is so demoralizing. Why would God choose the Pope to be in charge of this project, and why didnt they show their work on why they felt God told them to pic this book and put it here? Can anyone help?
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Do you believe God is able to preserve His Word and guide His people to understand the truth apart from the deceptions of men..... You can study the history of the accepted books of the bible and its amazing how these certain books was preserved and used through-out the known world ...and how they agree with each other from all these different places ...but at some point your have to have faith that God is God and see His work in preserving His Word.
 
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If God is the Spirit of Love, and in the begining the Word is God, and so the Word is the Spirit of Love, then we should test everything if its of the Spirit of Love or not right? If Love doesnt demand its own way, and for thousands of years children all over the world who had no missionaries or technology to hear about the jewish religion, then why would God change the only way to heaven is thru the Son? Thats not Loving to the billions of humans that had no clue about this. Love is greater than sacrifice like it sais in Hosea 8 right? Why ?
 
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Adamb12 said:
If God is the Spirit of Love, and in the begining the Word is God, and so the Word is the Spirit of Love, then we should test everything if its of the Spirit of Love or not right? If Love doesnt demand its own way, and for thousands of years children all over the world who had no missionaries or technology to hear about the jewish religion, then why would God change the only way to heaven is thru the Son? Thats not Loving to the billions of humans that had no clue about this. Love is greater than sacrifice like it sais in Hosea 8 right? Why ?
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The bible describes love (not man) and Jesus Christ is the express Image of God.... The New Testament is very clear why the Old Testament was given first and why God used the Old Testament and the 12 tribes to bring forth Christ. Are you a believer in Christ?
 
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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST said:
Is it just me or are there a plethora of people claiming to have received "new revelations" from their said Jesus and their said God. Just look on the internet for instance, there all over the place!:(

I received the Jesus Christ of John's Revelation. I won't receive anyone else's Jesus. But there are so many books, websites, cd's etc. of people claiming to have hidden truths revealed to them from their said Jesus or their said God. I'ts literally out of control!

Another thing, they never seem to be able to agree on anything. Not only that they usually don't have their positions supported by scripture and if they do it is their interpretation or taken out of context.

They say, "follow me! I will support your lifestyle, see I do it, I'm ok, I'm saved!" Or, "believe MY Jesus and what MY Jesus just revealed to me or your not saved," and the like.

How does someone discern! People follow people! People like to hear what they want to hear. Believe me, if someone wants to hear something they can find someone who will tell them exactly what they want to hear.

Honest question that I ask myself, where is your faith, in the word of God and the Revelation of Jesus Christ or someone else's Jesus?

Why doesn't anyone say they received the Jesus of John's Revelation?

Is it always implied?

Am I the only one who makes an effort to say this?

*I am just very concerned. Please let me know if you have noticed these things as well*:(
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John's Jesus is the same as Paul's, Peter's, Luke's, James's, Mark's, Matthew's etc.
 
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The bible describes you say first right?
If in the beginning the Word was God and God is the spirit of love and love doesn't demand its own way, what happened to all the billions for thousands of years who lived in South and North Americas and all the other continents that had no idea about the Jewish religion and the prophets and Jesus? Sounds demanding that God would allow the Jew first then the gentile, all the while all the beautiful children all over the world die without knowing about the Jewish God or the Christian savior. Only way to the father is thru the son? Every knee will bow? King of kings?, when God told the people of Israel that they should never set up themselves a king? The pope of Alexandria was Athanasius aka the immortal One. He was in charge of choosing the 66 books and ordering them too. How come 99% of Sunday Services never talk about this, and where is the manuscripts showing their work on how they felt lead by the Spirit to choose which book, and to put it in which order? I think if you and I were lead by the Spirit to decide which books are going into a new book called the book of life, we would tell others what the Spirit is telling us to do with each book / choice. Dont you?
 
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Adamb12 said:
The bible describes you say first right?
If in the beginning the Word was God and God is the spirit of love and love doesn't demand its own way, what happened to all the billions for thousands of years who lived in South and North Americas and all the other continents that had no idea about the Jewish religion and the prophets and Jesus? Sounds demanding that God would allow the Jew first then the gentile, all the while all the beautiful children all over the world die without knowing about the Jewish God or the Christian savior. Only way to the father is thru the son? Every knee will bow? King of kings?, when God told the people of Israel that they should never set up themselves a king? The pope of Alexandria was Athanasius aka the immortal One. He was in charge of choosing the 66 books and ordering them too. How come 99% of Sunday Services never talk about this, and where is the manuscripts showing their work on how they felt lead by the Spirit to choose which book, and to put it in which order? I think if you and I were lead by the Spirit to decide which books are going into a new book called the book of life, we would tell others what the Spirit is telling us to do with each book / choice. Dont you?
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The same God that sent Jesus to save all men...will judge all men...Those who heard the gospel and those who did not. He made men and there is no one that can question His judgment or right to judge as He decides ...If He has mercy on those who never heard the gospel...who can complain...If He condemns all those who knew not Christ? Who can say He is unfair? He is God Almighty ...maker of Heaven and Earth ...He is The Great "I AM" and He is always just and He is always right in His judgment.
 
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Thats what the book says, and the book was brought to you by the leader of the whole world, at the time, (Constantine) and the Pope of Alexandria ( Athanasius aka The Immortal One). Jesus even says, You look as if the scriptues have everlasting life in them. God told pharoah, Israel is my first born son. Revelations says that the stories of Jesus is from the Spirit of prophecy. If more people could understand that the Word of God is not a book, then truth would help us gain the understanding of the Spirit of Love is in us all. Hell / Sin is condeming, because of a book thats deceiving mankind.
 
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There is the word of God, which is Holy Scripture, the divine revelation of God to man. This is not to be worshipped.

Then there is the Word of God, which is Christ, who is God enfleshed. He is to be worshipped.
 
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Adamb12 said:
Thats what the book says, and the book was brought to you by the leader of the whole world, at the time, (Constantine) and the Pope of Alexandria ( Athanasius aka The Immortal One). Jesus even says, You look as if the scriptues have everlasting life in them. God told pharoah, Israel is my first born son. Revelations says that the stories of Jesus is from the Spirit of prophecy. If more people could understand that the Word of God is not a book, then truth would help us gain the understanding of the Spirit of Love is in us all. Hell / Sin is condeming, because of a book thats deceiving mankind.
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Could you please start a new thread on your topic? This is at least the 2nd time I see you jumped in the middle of a totally different topic to spread your confusion.
 
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Brother Adam12,


God never put man over Himself. The Pope's characteristics are a identical reflection of Lucifer who wanted Christ to bow down and worship him and that he (Lucifer) would give Christ the whole world. Satan is working through the Pope who has always desired worship as well.

Let no man deceive you, by any means; for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition.

Who opposeth and exalted himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Remember ye not that, when I was yet with you. I told you these things:? And now ye know that withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the brightness of his coming.

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish because they loved not the truth, that they might be saved.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12
 
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Adamb12 said:
Thats what the book says, and the book was brought to you by the leader of the whole world, at the time, (Constantine) and the Pope of Alexandria ( Athanasius aka The Immortal One). Jesus even says, You look as if the scriptues have everlasting life in them. God told pharoah, Israel is my first born son. Revelations says that the stories of Jesus is from the Spirit of prophecy. If more people could understand that the Word of God is not a book, then truth would help us gain the understanding of the Spirit of Love is in us all. Hell / Sin is condeming, because of a book thats deceiving mankind.
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You clearly have very little understanding of how the scriptures was preserved and how they spread throughout the known world and was used by Christians worldwide and what the Romans did was just agree on what was already established and can to this day still been proven as the accepted writings of the Apostles ...There is no great question about the books we have in the cannon now...there are some small debatable issues ..but the overwhelming evidence is amazing and testifies that God has preserved His Word for His people .
 
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There is the word of God, which is Holy Scripture, the divine revelation of God to man. This is not to be worshipped.

Then there is the Word of God, which is Christ, who is God enfleshed. He is to be worshipped.
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No one can claim to honor or even know Christ unless they honor and know His Word.... God Himself magnified His Word above His Own name.
 
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If you think a Loving father would set himself up as a king, when he clearly tells Israel not too, cuz kingdoms divide the people, and that a Loving father needs us to bow down to him on one knee, or that he wants us to worship him as such, and that a loving father would sacrifice his first born son like the pagan religions of marduk and mythra, etc. , and a loving father would tell slaves to obey their masters, and the beginning of wisdom is fear of himself, then the book has done its job of deceiving one from love and turning one into fear. Test whether or not the words are from Love remember?
 
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Adamb12 said:
If you think a Loving father would set himself up as a king, when he clearly tells Israel not too, cuz kingdoms divide the people, and that a Loving father needs us to bow down to him on one knee, or that he wants us to worship him as such, and that a loving father would sacrifice his first born son like the pagan religions of marduk and mythra, etc. , and a loving father would tell slaves to obey their masters, and the beginning of wisdom is fear of himself, then the book has done its job of deceiving one from love and turning one into fear. Test whether or not the words are from Love remember?
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God is more than any king...He is God Almighty and Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords...you seem to think you can just make-up a god that suites you? Maybe you think your god?
 
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Again my friend, you quote the book, and the book is a form of mind control to stop the first action of seeking. Love would never put Jew first. Love would never say the begining of wisdom is fear of itself, Love would never say slaves obey your masters, love would never sacrifice his firstborn son on purpose, love would never divide the people by saying there is only one way, Love endures all things my friend. If God is sitting in the middle, and His son is on the right, how can the Spirit be sitting? After Adam sinned, what did God say first? Didnt he say" Now they are just like us". The enemy has always wanted to be called the One and only, THE Son of God, King of kings, Lord of Lords, and does that sound loving to you?
 
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Adamb12 said:
Again my friend, you quote the book, and the book is a form of mind control to stop the first action of seeking. Love would never put Jew first. Love would never say the begining of wisdom is fear of itself, Love would never say slaves obey your masters, love would never sacrifice his firstborn son on purpose, love would never divide the people by saying there is only one way, Love endures all things my friend. If God is sitting in the middle, and His son is on the right, how can the Spirit be sitting? After Adam sinned, what did God say first? Didnt he say" Now they are just like us". The enemy has always wanted to be called the One and only, THE Son of God, King of kings, Lord of Lords, and does that sound loving to you?
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Yes I believe the book with my whole heart... you think its odd that you would come to a Christian site and find people who believe the bible? Maybe you need to question why you came here? The bible, Old and New Testament are clearly true and clearly Gods Word...Jesus Christ is clearly the Very Son of God and gave us His Word through His Apostles and Prophets . Love is described in the bible ..not by you or any other man
 
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