I have seen many threads where others have put down other religions especially within Christianity. I just want to tell you that no religion whether Catholic or protestant or any other religion whether Christian or not is flawless and no matter what denomination you are, there will always be bad apples in that denomination. The best thing to do is to love one another and accept one another despite the difference. The Bible states that those who do not love thy neighbor don't love God for God is love. No church is going to be perfect.
No such thing as a perfect denomination
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One thing I do agree with you on is about bad fruit in the world. Matthew 7:16-20: "You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them"
1 John 4:1: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world"
The most important thing is to get the Gospel right and many religions don't. There is only one truth, one Gospel message, not several. There is the narrow road and the broad road. Christ said we need to be on that narrow road. Every religion that teaches differently from the truth is on the broad road heading for destruction. It's either the narrow or broad road. (Matthew 7:13-14)
The reason we have denominations in the first place is because of disagreements on scriptures and the Gospel message - so each person set up a new church to suit their needs. Those who have the truth worship God in spirit and in truth and do not desire to separate themselves from other believers with the truth. The breeding of different religions has also spiraled out of control because of man's desires to practice a belief that suits his lifestyle.
I agree that we must love one another but truth is important and you can share truth in love. We cannot compromise truth for the sake of unity though. The disciples as well as many other born again Christians died for the truth. They would rather be tortured and killed than compromise and unite with heresy.
Yes God is love, but you forget the wrath bit. He hates sin. Those who delight in falsehoods (basically those who continue in religions that teach differently to God's word) and die not having been born again will experience His wrath. This is true, otherwise God lied when He said the unsaved will be going to hell, which was originally prepared for the devil and his angels.
Not everyone who says they're Christian is actually Christian. 2 Cor 13:5: "Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified"
Have you done the 1 John test? The book of 1 John is the test to see if you're really a Christian. Read it!!
1 John 4:1: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world"
The most important thing is to get the Gospel right and many religions don't. There is only one truth, one Gospel message, not several. There is the narrow road and the broad road. Christ said we need to be on that narrow road. Every religion that teaches differently from the truth is on the broad road heading for destruction. It's either the narrow or broad road. (Matthew 7:13-14)
The reason we have denominations in the first place is because of disagreements on scriptures and the Gospel message - so each person set up a new church to suit their needs. Those who have the truth worship God in spirit and in truth and do not desire to separate themselves from other believers with the truth. The breeding of different religions has also spiraled out of control because of man's desires to practice a belief that suits his lifestyle.
I agree that we must love one another but truth is important and you can share truth in love. We cannot compromise truth for the sake of unity though. The disciples as well as many other born again Christians died for the truth. They would rather be tortured and killed than compromise and unite with heresy.
Yes God is love, but you forget the wrath bit. He hates sin. Those who delight in falsehoods (basically those who continue in religions that teach differently to God's word) and die not having been born again will experience His wrath. This is true, otherwise God lied when He said the unsaved will be going to hell, which was originally prepared for the devil and his angels.
Not everyone who says they're Christian is actually Christian. 2 Cor 13:5: "Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified"
Have you done the 1 John test? The book of 1 John is the test to see if you're really a Christian. Read it!!
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Adam and Eve were perfect until they sinned. Jesus was the only perfect one. You're right. None of us are perfect, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Jesus came to help the "sick" who needed a doctor.
When we're saved one of the fruits we have is obedience. We want to be obedient, so we strive to be more like Christ, although we will fail, but we try.
Most important thing is whether we've been forgiven for our sins or whether we still carry the burden of them. The wages of sin is death. Only through Christ can we be cleansed of our sin, not a priest or a pope or anyone, only through Christ.
When we're saved one of the fruits we have is obedience. We want to be obedient, so we strive to be more like Christ, although we will fail, but we try.
Most important thing is whether we've been forgiven for our sins or whether we still carry the burden of them. The wages of sin is death. Only through Christ can we be cleansed of our sin, not a priest or a pope or anyone, only through Christ.
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This is so true, there is no one beside Jesus who is sinless. But we must remember Jesus, commands us to be Perfect (Matthew 5:48). IMO that means if you find a local church that understand the Law of Liberty (James 2:12-13; Galatians 5:13-14; Matthew 5:43-48), don't leave it for it is found on the love of Christ.
And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
Colossians 3:14
Charity is the old english word for love.
Agreed, there is only one perfect, Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
I do agree that to attack another religion is not the way to witness.
But when one in Jesus is called to witness to truth, this is a witness set in the love of Jesus.
No one is perfect, nor any religion, but we can and do know that Jesus is the perfect.
And all who love in Jesus, alive in the Holy Spirit, will plead in love and witness to the truth, in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
I know I am greatful to the christains who did not attack the religion I was raised in when young, but simply witnessed to the truth in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
The thing is, they did not have to speak to what was wrong, but simply witnessed to what is truth in
scripture, wisdom and the perfect in Jesus.
My eyes and heart were opened by the truth, and Jesus has and continues to bring this truth, His perfect.
Because it is not abut where we were, but compleatly about where we are and will be in Jesus!
God bless
pickles
I do agree that to attack another religion is not the way to witness.
But when one in Jesus is called to witness to truth, this is a witness set in the love of Jesus.
No one is perfect, nor any religion, but we can and do know that Jesus is the perfect.
And all who love in Jesus, alive in the Holy Spirit, will plead in love and witness to the truth, in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
I know I am greatful to the christains who did not attack the religion I was raised in when young, but simply witnessed to the truth in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
The thing is, they did not have to speak to what was wrong, but simply witnessed to what is truth in
scripture, wisdom and the perfect in Jesus.
My eyes and heart were opened by the truth, and Jesus has and continues to bring this truth, His perfect.
Because it is not abut where we were, but compleatly about where we are and will be in Jesus!
God bless
pickles
Baptist, Methodist, Calvinist, Lutheran, Quaker, Shaker, Puritan, Seventh Day Adventist, Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, and the list goes on. These are just some of the religions (denominations) of Christianity, and Catholic too I suppose. Anyone knows most folks when asked "What religion are you," will reply with the name of a denomination, thus it is popularly acceptable to use the words interchangeably.............but I foresee hair splitting on the horizon. My only question here is, is the post's question serious?
What God cares about is whether those denominations are serving Him in spirit and in truth and whether they are teaching and living by the pure word of God. There will always tares in the midst of wheat but it's up to the wheat (believers) to take their stand regardless of the false teachings and to not get swayed by every wind of doctrine.The Lord knows those who are His.
Yes starfield, that's true. But generally, people are aware of their own sins. And don't need them exposed, pointed out and ridiculed. There's a fine line between being helpful and self righteous. It does more good to encourage, support, and comfort than to throw doctrine into someone's face, when probably, they are already aware of their shortcomings. As I say, we are free. And we also are not to judge.
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Just wanted to send a reminder of what the first 3 Gospels record just before "love your neighbor as yourself"...which is that we are to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength." The law and the prophets hang on those two commands. I don't think we can do the second of those commands if we don't do the first.
The prophets may. And rightly so. Jesus says though, directly 'Love your neighbour as yourself; for all the law is fulfilled in this command'.
Loving our neighbour requires us to realise (especially in the topic of this thread), that they are doing the best they can at that given moment. Belittling them for genuinely believing they are doing the right thing, following the word as best they can, is not help, but hinderance. As I say, we are free. We are also to leave the judgement to God. Loving our neighbour sometimes requires that we say 'They are them, and I am I'. Especially where denominational contradiction occurs.
Loving our neighbour requires us to realise (especially in the topic of this thread), that they are doing the best they can at that given moment. Belittling them for genuinely believing they are doing the right thing, following the word as best they can, is not help, but hinderance. As I say, we are free. We are also to leave the judgement to God. Loving our neighbour sometimes requires that we say 'They are them, and I am I'. Especially where denominational contradiction occurs.
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