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The Bible clearly says, man's sin brought death, so man can not come from death, therefore Evolution and Scripture conflict.
The problem with saying Evolution comes from the Scientific method is that while there is some science behind Evolutional theory there are many questions left unanswered. And when pressed the answer is that we haven't figured that out yet. Or that's not my "type of science" there is a documented agenda behind promotion of Evolutional theory and public schooling itself.
It is to mold the minds of kids apart from the traditions of their parents...
"In our dreams, we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present education conventions fade from their minds, and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning, or men of science. We have not to raise up from among them authors, editors, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we have an ample supply…The task we set before ourselves is very simple as well as a very beautiful one, to train these people as we find them to a perfectly ideal life just where they are. So we will organize our children and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way, in the homes, in the shops and on the farm." - General Education Board, Occasional Papers 1 (1913, New York.)
Knowing this information is vital to understand the policies and procedures that currently make zero sense to rational thinkers.
It also helps us prepare our kids when they come headfirst into professors who try to get them to question their faith, books like I don't have enough faith to be an atheist do a great job of answer some of these queries. I saw one of the authors speak live and was so blown away I immediately purchased it.
After my encounter with God I went on a year long search to understand why we could believe the Bible is from God. Along the way I wanted to write a book of my discoveries, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist is the book I wanted to write. I think every Christian and especially younger ones should read it.
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The problem with saying Evolution comes from the Scientific method is that while there is some science behind Evolutional theory there are many questions left unanswered. And when pressed the answer is that we haven't figured that out yet. Or that's not my "type of science" there is a documented agenda behind promotion of Evolutional theory and public schooling itself.
It is to mold the minds of kids apart from the traditions of their parents...
"In our dreams, we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present education conventions fade from their minds, and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning, or men of science. We have not to raise up from among them authors, editors, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we have an ample supply…The task we set before ourselves is very simple as well as a very beautiful one, to train these people as we find them to a perfectly ideal life just where they are. So we will organize our children and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way, in the homes, in the shops and on the farm." - General Education Board, Occasional Papers 1 (1913, New York.)
Knowing this information is vital to understand the policies and procedures that currently make zero sense to rational thinkers.
It also helps us prepare our kids when they come headfirst into professors who try to get them to question their faith, books like I don't have enough faith to be an atheist do a great job of answer some of these queries. I saw one of the authors speak live and was so blown away I immediately purchased it.
After my encounter with God I went on a year long search to understand why we could believe the Bible is from God. Along the way I wanted to write a book of my discoveries, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist is the book I wanted to write. I think every Christian and especially younger ones should read it.
C.
As far as the popular thinking that Creationism has no scientific roots this is easily answerable. As soon as a professor believes in Creationism he is immediately debunked and removed. Thus making the popular appearance that all "wise scientists" are evolutionists. And since many people will believe what other people say as long as there are studies and a lot of "rational" jargon (also known as NLP) this is rarely questioned.
Here's a SMALL sampling of highly acclaimed scientist who do believe in creation: Do real scientists believe in Creation? • ChristianAnswers.Net
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Here's a SMALL sampling of highly acclaimed scientist who do believe in creation: Do real scientists believe in Creation? • ChristianAnswers.Net
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First of all, even if evolution wasn't science, it would still NOT be a religion.
Second, evolution is science per every single aspect of religion you deny. Again, you deny the evidence despite all the research that's been done. You only observe creationist apologists who don't even attack evolution but a strawman version of evolution.
Evolution is an observation of reality. It does not encourage or discourage any form of morality. If someone wishes to use evolution as a reason behind their moral choices, then it's the individuals ethics that must be addressed. For example, we observe animals that eat their own species. Does accepting this reality mean cannibalism is justified? No!
Evolution doesn't remove the accountability of man. If you believe this, you're far too removed from reality. Most people who accept the theory of evolution are good people. Evil people who believe in evolution almost never use evolution as an excuse for their actions. If there are people stupid enough to use evolution as an excuse to commit crimes, then they don't even understand the theory of evolution since evolution describes the process in which species evolve, it doesn't dictate morality.
That's why your statement is asinine.
If you're going to reject everything that contradicts your interpretation of the Bible, then you're establishing that it's literally impossible to come up with ANY evidence to change your mind. If that's the case, then all your arguments lose all meaning. For example: If you say there must be a missing link, but you won't change your mind ever, then it means you'll reject all missing links that are presented your way.
Essentially, I'd be better off talking to a wall. I'd probably be better off bashing my head against it since it would cause much less of a headache.
Second, evolution is science per every single aspect of religion you deny. Again, you deny the evidence despite all the research that's been done. You only observe creationist apologists who don't even attack evolution but a strawman version of evolution.
Evolution is an observation of reality. It does not encourage or discourage any form of morality. If someone wishes to use evolution as a reason behind their moral choices, then it's the individuals ethics that must be addressed. For example, we observe animals that eat their own species. Does accepting this reality mean cannibalism is justified? No!
Evolution doesn't remove the accountability of man. If you believe this, you're far too removed from reality. Most people who accept the theory of evolution are good people. Evil people who believe in evolution almost never use evolution as an excuse for their actions. If there are people stupid enough to use evolution as an excuse to commit crimes, then they don't even understand the theory of evolution since evolution describes the process in which species evolve, it doesn't dictate morality.
That's why your statement is asinine.
If you're going to reject everything that contradicts your interpretation of the Bible, then you're establishing that it's literally impossible to come up with ANY evidence to change your mind. If that's the case, then all your arguments lose all meaning. For example: If you say there must be a missing link, but you won't change your mind ever, then it means you'll reject all missing links that are presented your way.
Essentially, I'd be better off talking to a wall. I'd probably be better off bashing my head against it since it would cause much less of a headache.
This is a false dichotomy.
Neither, I accept evolution due to the overwhelming amount of evidence that supports it.
You open the door to an office building and you spot a dead body on the ground with holes in it. You notice there are bullet shells on the ground and outside there's a gun hidden in the bushes. You didn't personally witness the murder, so does this mean you take it on faith that the man was shot to death? No, you use the evidence to come to that conclusion. I use the evidence presented by scientists to form the conclusion that evolution is true.
Neither, I accept evolution due to the overwhelming amount of evidence that supports it.
You open the door to an office building and you spot a dead body on the ground with holes in it. You notice there are bullet shells on the ground and outside there's a gun hidden in the bushes. You didn't personally witness the murder, so does this mean you take it on faith that the man was shot to death? No, you use the evidence to come to that conclusion. I use the evidence presented by scientists to form the conclusion that evolution is true.
Although the idea behind radiocarbon dating is straightforward, it depends on many assumptions, and the development of the technique required much additional work to resolve the associated questions.
From Wikipedia
Did you read that - it depends on many assumptions! Wasn't sure if you were paying attention.
From Wikipedia
Did you read that - it depends on many assumptions! Wasn't sure if you were paying attention.
It seems, to me anyway, that evolution has been proven to be false. As I have said before, the intermediary species would all still be here. And even if it could be explained why they all died, there would be trillions (that number is low) of fossils to show that they did exist, not just a "few" that were mostly likely different due to some disease that they the animal or man had.
If evolution were true, it would be completely undeniable (and I don't mean just by percepi).
If evolution were true, it would be completely undeniable (and I don't mean just by percepi).
Well this is actually a good point, studying history beyond recorded history is much like forensics. And as we all know (ask any detective), the longer you wait the more evidence is lost. So.....it's been a while. How much evidence has been lost? How much information has been distorted over time? How much information is being planted (and this has happened on both sides - by evolutionary scientists and Christian scientists)? Both groups have been found guilty of planting evidence.
And, of course, your scientists deny the oldest recorded history that we do have......The Bible.
And, of course, your scientists deny the oldest recorded history that we do have......The Bible.
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Me thinks you need to return to school to discover what the definition of a religion is. Evolution is absolutely a religion. I deny all of the so-called evidence because it comes from an extreme bias of naturalism, and the belief that there is no God - personal of otherwise. Again, we have the same evidence you do just a very different worldview. I only read biblical creationists that present strawmen versions of evolutionists and evolution? Like fun I do. Biblical creationist ministries present words from the evolutionists mouths (sometimes quotes, sometimes what they're written) and cite the references so you can check out their claims for yourself. Evolutionists don't do any such thing. They present a strawmen understanding of biblical creationists without a lick of journalistic integrity. Also, like I said before, I'm a biblical creationist but I read resources from both sides of the coin - biblical creation and theistic evolution/non-theistic evolution.
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You deny all "so-called" evidence for Evolution meaning that in your eyes it is a religion. Heres where you went wrong, if you deny all so-called evidence it means that most likely no matter what evidence is produced you will deny it. Further more you cannot produce evidence yourself for your belief. I believe this is called nitpicking or fundmentalism.