Noahide Laws and the anti-christ

[PennEd]

This has been known for many, many years Mr. Penn....it has been kept on the down low but more people are waking up thankfully!!!

Thank you for bringing it to the forefront so more people will know.

I consider myself a fairly well-read individual, and certainly very up on news, of all sorts, from many different sources. I have been a Christian for over 25 yrs with varying degrees of study intensity. I have been here for 6 yrs. And I have NEVER read,heard or seen of the Noahide Laws.

That ALONE seems suspicious. I am pretty familiar with Rabbi Schneerson. He was a big deal in the town next to where I lived called Lakewood N.J. A gigantic Hasidic Jewish community lives there. But I had no inkling the U.S. gov canonized this guy at all.
Here is a longer, but very informative video if anyone is interested in digging a little deeper into this: BTW, I'm still voting Trump. He is still EONS better than any Democrat, and after all, the Lord is in control:

 

[p_rehbein]

In Israel when the AC claims to be God in the temple can you see the Jews in the video PennEd gave in the OP letting a non-Jew into Temple? Last Sunday in Israel Netanyahu renamed the Golan Heights,,,"Trump Heights" but I cant see them letting him into the Holy of Holies of their planed Temple unless he is the High Priest and only on Yom Kippur so only an Jewish AC or gentile?

Life long Liberal Democrat becomes a born again Republican.

Can it be too far of a stretch for a life long play pretend Christian to convert to Judaism?

(tongue in cheek)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Didn't Antioches Epiphanes enter it back around 168 BC and profane the Temple but wasn't Jewish?

This was my thought.

The world leader, whoever he is, is not going to be stopped from going where he wants to go. The prince who is to come will have his army backing him. Thats what will make it a major event.

Some jewish guy entering and doing this would not cause a worldwide response. It would be just another jew doing jewish things.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Return to the ancient ways? We will be slaves of the Jews? How backwards is that? Jesus sets us free. The Old Testaments make little sense without the fulfillment brought about by Jesus. I said that to Bob earlier tonight also, while we were reading through part of the book of Exodus. The Noahide laws themselves have been promoted as being applicable to all for some time. I did not realize how dangerous Hebrew Roots really was, and what they are being enlisted for. A few CC members fit the type presented. The stage is surely being set. I am glad I avoided Messianic Christianity

Correction: he cites a source around 12 minutes 18 seconds in,
calling it gotquestions.com, but it is gotquestions.org

Thank you, Ed.

We had some very heated threads when I first came into CC about hebrew roots. Mostly along the line of end times prophesy. It got nasty.

And Amen, that world is dangerous. And it is taking hold. But it will also be defeated. The antichrist will establish himself as God. Thus he will have to destroy all religions. And force all to worship him. Even recieve the mark, which is not part of any current religious scheme

 

[UnderGrace]

I consider myself a fairly well-read individual, and certainly very up on news, of all sorts, from many different sources. I have been a Christian for over 25 yrs with varying degrees of study intensity. I have been here for 6 yrs. And I have NEVER read,heard or seen of the Noahide Laws.

That ALONE seems suspicious. I am pretty familiar with Rabbi Schneerson. He was a big deal in the town next to where I lived called Lakewood N.J. A gigantic Hasidic Jewish community lives there. But I had no inkling the U.S. gov canonized this guy at all.
Here is a longer, but very informative video if anyone is interested in digging a little deeper into this: BTW, I'm still voting Trump. He is still EONS better than any Democrat, and after all, the Lord is in control:

Mr. PennEd I know you are very aware ..... it is not new though, I have several friends who dig far deeper than me and they actually alerted me several years ago.

Yes God is in control, however we have a duty to be set forth the truth and to always be objective because things are not always as they seem, which I know you do

 

[UnderGrace]

No need to keep my eyes open, "THE antichrist" came and went. John said it was the last hour when he wrote:

(1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. )

The last days of Peter and Paul turned into the last hour of John in his life time:

(Acts 2:17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days. . . . )

(Heb 1:2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son. . . . )

Yes he did agree ...but that does not mean that there isn't a push for a counterfeit for political reasons...there is a reason we have people publishing books like the Left Behind series and the Late Great Planet Earth......evil is still here, now will they accomplish their goals I hope not, especially if we can wake enough people up from this futurist position.

 

[UnderGrace]

I consider myself a fairly well-read individual, and certainly very up on news, of all sorts, from many different sources. I have been a Christian for over 25 yrs with varying degrees of study intensity. I have been here for 6 yrs. And I have NEVER read,heard or seen of the Noahide Laws.

That ALONE seems suspicious. I am pretty familiar with Rabbi Schneerson. He was a big deal in the town next to where I lived called Lakewood N.J. A gigantic Hasidic Jewish community lives there. But I had no inkling the U.S. gov canonized this guy at all.
Here is a longer, but very informative video if anyone is interested in digging a little deeper into this: BTW, I'm still voting Trump. He is still EONS better than any Democrat, and after all, the Lord is in control:

I have talking about his on CC for a full year and was called a hater because of it.
People just do not want to face the facts sadly.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes he did agree ...but that does not mean that there isn't a push for a counterfeit for political reasons...there is a reason we have people publishing books like the Left Behind series and the Late Great Planet Earth......evil is still here, now will they accomplish their goals I hope not, especially if we can wake enough people up from this futurist position.

Really?

This is ridiculous.

 

[UnderGrace]

Really?

This is ridiculous.

Do you think you can be objective Mr. E.G. ?

There is a lot of discomfort/turmoil to put one's accepted beliefs under scrutiny.....but then you called Chuck Baldwin a dude and did not even watch his video as I recall.....hmm?

 

[Adstar]

I have known about Hebrew roots for a few years now and it does have a dark side::

Scripture and the video dealing with it..

Galatians 2: KJV
11 "But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. {12} For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. {13} And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. {14} But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? {15} We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, {16} Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you think you can be objective Mr. E.G. ?

I think from your post you have proved that you can not be. So why are you asking me? And the arrogance in the post (the part I highlighted) Thats why I said it was rediculous)

Even the notion of what you said is ridiculous whether you change your view or I change my view is not going to help us be better christians or more prepared. As long as we are focused on christ

There is a lot of discomfort/turmoil to put one's accepted beliefs under scrutiny.....but then you called Chuck Baldwin a dude and did not even watch his video as I recall.....hmm?

Yeah there is, And yet I did, and have changed many of my views. Even concerning eschatology.

Its all good. You have proven you have no desire to even look at what people say, and blow them off like it is nothing. I will just not speak to you concerning these matters anymore. Good day.

 

[he-rat_of_the_circus-mice]

He even asked His Father not to account His Death to them.

I think this is inaccurate. The most straight-forward reading of scripture is Jesus asking His Father to forgive His (Roman) executioners, who didn't know what they were doing, when the Jews clearly did.

Luke 23:32-34 Two other men, both criminals, were also led out with him to be executed. When they came to the place called the Skull, they crucified him there, along with the criminals—one on his right, the other on his left. Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.

What is the jest of the video and the I believe the verbiage of Daniel points to the AC as coming from Ishmael based upon two statements applied unto him.......

Worshiping a god hiss fathers did not know <---small g in the text
Not having respect unto the GOD of his fathers <----capital G in the text

Allah fits the above two designations as IN.....a god Abraham and Ishmael would not have know and the capital G not honoring the GOD Abraham and Ishmael would have known

The prophecy of Daniel was fulfilled at the destruction of Jerusalem, so there's no need to link this fulfilled prophecy to Allah.

I consider myself a fairly well-read individual, and certainly very up on news, of all sorts, from many different sources. I have been a Christian for over 25 yrs with varying degrees of study intensity. I have been here for 6 yrs. And I have NEVER read,heard or seen of the Noahide Laws.

It's been around for a long time. Folks were talking about it before the days of Obama. There are (or were) specific references to legislation, but I could never figure out if the references were legitimate.

 

[UnderGrace]

I think from your post you have proved that you can not be. So why are you asking me? And the arrogance in the post (the part I highlighted) Thats why I said it was rediculous)

Even the notion of what you said is ridiculous whether you change your view or I change my view is not going to help us be better christians or more prepared. As long as we are focused on christ

Yeah there is, And yet I did, and have changed many of my views. Even concerning eschatology.

Its all good. You have proven you have no desire to even look at what people say, and blow them off like it is nothing. I will just not speak to you concerning these matters anymore. Good day.

Well you sure do take everything far more personally than intended. Just asking a question. How do people converse unless they can solicit information form each other.
Okay no worries.

 

[PennEd]

I have talking about his on CC for a full year and was called a hater because of it.
People just do not want to face the facts sadly.

You were talking about the Noahidic Laws? I must have missed that.

Yes. It appears this has been around since at least Carter. I find it odd that not only me, but EVERY person I have spoken to in person, some who are pretty learned, never heard of it either.

I think we need to be very careful and sensitive when discussing these issues. Just like we need to differentiate between the Jewish nation at large and the Jewish religious leadership of Jesus' day, we need to do the same today. There is going to be a 1/3 remnant that will believe and accept Jesus. And some of them may be in Israel right now.

 

[PennEd]

Yes he did agree ...but that does not mean that there isn't a push for a counterfeit for political reasons...there is a reason we have people publishing books like the Left Behind series and the Late Great Planet Earth......evil is still here, now will they accomplish their goals I hope not, especially if we can wake enough people up from this futurist position.

Am I to understand that you think THE antichrist already came?

 

[UnderGrace]

You were talking about the Noahidic Laws? I must have missed that.

Yes. It appears this has been around since at least Carter. I find it odd that not only me, but EVERY person I have spoken to in person, some who are pretty learned, never heard of it either.

I think we need to be very careful and sensitive when discussing these issues. Just like we need to differentiate between the Jewish nation at large and the Jewish religious leadership of Jesus' day, we need to do the same today. There is going to be a 1/3 remnant that will believe and accept Jesus. And some of them may be in Israel right now.

Well the remnant has already happened but that is a separate discussion

Certainly with regards to the the history and politics put it this way......

And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Well you sure do take everything far more personally than intended. Just asking a question. How do people converse unless they can solicit information form each other.
Okay no worries.

They do converse by saying things like you said, Thats shuts off communication.

Why bother conversing when you KNOW the person your conversing with thinks you need to be educated?

 

[PennEd]

They do converse by saying things like you said, Thats shuts off communication.

Why bother conversing when you KNOW the person your conversing with thinks you need to be educated?

One thing about our sister in Christ Undergrace is that she always converses in a respectful manner. We have to be careful not to interpret disagreement with a lack of love. We ALL come off as my way or the highway on certain stuff.

I disagree with her on several issues, but even on those, her points stimulate diverse thinking. And that's usually a good thing.

 

[Dino246]

Thanks PennEd, for bringing this to my attention.

 

[tourist]

Do you think you can be objective Mr. E.G. ?

There is a lot of discomfort/turmoil to put one's accepted beliefs under scrutiny.....but then you called Chuck Baldwin a dude and did not even watch his video as I recall.....hmm?

This morning I saw a video of some lady talking about eating Chia pets on another thread. Didn't watch the whole thing though. She probably was a vegan.