Noah's Ark

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iamsoandso

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If you will be careful not to delete / remove / replace the right-square-bracket ( ' ] ' ) from the 'end-quote' tag --- it will not destroy the "quote bubble"...
wow i didn't know that would do that either,i guess i'll have to tell my horses "woe!",,and watch the horseless carriage run around a minute,,,
 
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Hello people, I've decided to make a new post because I feel that it's good to have a discussion.

I'm sure that you are all aware of the bible story of Noah and the Ark that God commanded him to make and herd 2 of each animal onto the Ark, for God was to cleanse the world of sinners. But what's stricken me recently is when, Noah had to huddle on 2 of each species onto the ark so that when the waters cease, Noah can release the animals into the wild so that they can repopulate the plains. We all know that the Ark was ( after 40 days and 40 nights ) resting on the mountains of Ararat, but, was the flood global? if it was, then how do we explain the animals that are on Australia? such as the marsupials, the birds in the amazon , the polar bears in the cold climates of the world and many more.

If Noah did indeed rest the ark in Turkey, then how do you explain the animals on the other continents if Noah released the animals to the 1 continent. This never ever made sense to me, but I would appreciate some thought taken into this. :)

Thanks guys! Have a blessed day! )0(

Well I suggest.
1. I beleive that at the begining of creation the land was in unity. thats why the continents of today fits together.
2. this means that after the flood the animals could relocate if they didnt like an area.
3. Then an ice age must have happened to the earth due to the flood incident. which must have killed the dinosaurs and other creatures that failed to adapt.
4. there then had to be a continental drift mayb before or after the ice age (i Suppose after)
5. then life still went on after the ice age which lasted for some years
 
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Hello people, I've decided to make a new post because I feel that it's good to have a discussion.

I'm sure that you are all aware of the bible story of Noah and the Ark that God commanded him to make and herd 2 of each animal onto the Ark, for God was to cleanse the world of sinners. But what's stricken me recently is when, Noah had to huddle on 2 of each species onto the ark so that when the waters cease, Noah can release the animals into the wild so that they can repopulate the plains. We all know that the Ark was ( after 40 days and 40 nights ) resting on the mountains of Ararat, but, was the flood global? if it was, then how do we explain the animals that are on Australia? such as the marsupials, the birds in the amazon , the polar bears in the cold climates of the world and many more.

If Noah did indeed rest the ark in Turkey, then how do you explain the animals on the other continents if Noah released the animals to the 1 continent. This never ever made sense to me, but I would appreciate some thought taken into this. :)

Thanks guys! Have a blessed day! )0(
This is actually quite easy

Species is based on Evolution - the Biblical Kind - Baramin would be 2 Cat like creatures, 2 dog like creatures etc
much less animals - all these animals would have the genetic variations we see today - once the flood ended - they theorize a global ice age - land bridges etc - be fruitful and multiply to the animals - natural selection as we see today - not in dealing with evolution - ice melts, animals trapped on continents easy peasy
 
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Well I suggest.
1. I beleive that at the begining of creation the land was in unity. thats why the continents of today fits together.
2. this means that after the flood the animals could relocate if they didnt like an area.
3. Then an ice age must have happened to the earth due to the flood incident. which must have killed the dinosaurs and other creatures that failed to adapt.
4. there then had to be a continental drift mayb before or after the ice age (i Suppose after)
5. then life still went on after the ice age which lasted for some years
Your suggestions imply one of two things:
1) The flood occurred millions of years ago which means humans have been around for that long.
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2) The ice age and continental drift and diverse speciation all occurred within 100 thousand years and had rapid effects on the Earth.

Both situations seem to be contrary to scientific evidence.
 
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cjordan38

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Hello people, I've decided to make a new post because I feel that it's good to have a discussion.

I'm sure that you are all aware of the bible story of Noah and the Ark that God commanded him to make and herd 2 of each animal onto the Ark, for God was to cleanse the world of sinners. But what's stricken me recently is when, Noah had to huddle on 2 of each species onto the ark so that when the waters cease, Noah can release the animals into the wild so that they can repopulate the plains. We all know that the Ark was ( after 40 days and 40 nights ) resting on the mountains of Ararat, but, was the flood global? if it was, then how do we explain the animals that are on Australia? such as the marsupials, the birds in the amazon , the polar bears in the cold climates of the world and many more.

If Noah did indeed rest the ark in Turkey, then how do you explain the animals on the other continents if Noah released the animals to the 1 continent. This never ever made sense to me, but I would appreciate some thought taken into this. :)

Thanks guys! Have a blessed day! )0(
Is anything too hard for God....It was a Global destruction only Noah and the ones on the ship were left....They repopulated the earth....The animals were just split up...God made animals adapt to new places and weather...He said he would supply their every need...Now somebody here said that man wasnt around for millions of years....The spirit of man was here for million maybe even billions of years....The flesh was around for millions....Adam was around for billions of years....
 
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Tintin

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Your suggestions imply one of two things:
1) The flood occurred millions of years ago which means humans have been around for that long.
or
2) The ice age and continental drift and diverse speciation all occurred within 100 thousand years and had rapid effects on the Earth.

Both situations seem to be contrary to scientific evidence.
You say that like you think Science is a neutral field of study. It's not. Everyone is biased to some degree by their worldview. Most of Science shares a worldview that there's no God and then they set about trying to prove it. Those who oppose this belief are often censored or fired from their position.
 
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Tintin

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Is anything too hard for God....It was a Global destruction only Noah and the ones on the ship were left....They repopulated the earth....The animals were just split up...God made animals adapt to new places and weather...He said he would supply their every need...Now somebody here said that man wasnt around for millions of years....The spirit of man was here for million maybe even billions of years....The flesh was around for millions....Adam was around for billions of years....
*sigh* Another person trying to reconcile their belief in God with evolutionary theory, which is nothing more than poor human reasoning.
 
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cjordan38

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*sigh* Another person trying to reconcile their belief in God with evolutionary theory, which is nothing more than poor human reasoning.

Get thee behind me Satan...Victory is mines!!! I shall hold my peace and let the Lord fight my battle
 
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Tintin

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Get thee behind me Satan...Victory is mines!!! I shall hold my peace and let the Lord fight my battle
Haha! What? I'm not Satan. Evolutionary beliefs are of the Enemy though.
 
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cjordan38

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Haha! What? I'm not Satan. Evolutionary beliefs are of the Enemy though.

You dont have to be Satan to say the things he would....I dont habe evolutionary thoughts just saying man might have been around for billions of years no one truly knows how long but only God knows...Adam to me was older than he died in the flesh
 
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You say that like you think Science is a neutral field of study. It's not. Everyone is biased to some degree by their worldview. Most of Science shares a worldview that there's no God and then they set about trying to prove it. Those who oppose this belief are often censored or fired from their position.
I agree most people have biases and presuppositions but evidence and facts are by definition neutral. Science doesn't care if there's a God, the observations remain the same regardless. Also scientists are NOT trying to prove there is no God because that is impossible :D.
 
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tripsin

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The Luciferian Flood? This concept is erroneous.
Because you say so?

There is no "flood" associated with Genesis 1:1-2. What exactly was flooded? There was nothing but water. There was no land... :p ;)
It is referred to as 'flood', but you are correct on one thing; the whole of the surface of the globe was covered with water. That does not mean there wasn't earth (land) underneath those waters.

( not to mention, there was no sun or moon or stars either ) :)
Why would that matter?
 
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danschance

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I agree most people have biases and presuppositions but evidence and facts are by definition neutral. Science doesn't care if there's a God, the observations remain the same regardless. Also scientists are NOT trying to prove there is no God because that is impossible :D.
Don't you feel a little bit silly debating science and evidence in a faith based forum?
 
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Jay1

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Noah was led by God and with God anything is possible. I don't know for sure but wasn't the earth one land mass?
 

john832

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Get thee behind me Satan...Victory is mines!!! I shall hold my peace and let the Lord fight my battle
Careful there, I don't think the Lord is on the side of one who casts doubt on the veracity of His Word.
 
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Tintin

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I agree most people have biases and presuppositions but evidence and facts are by definition neutral. Science doesn't care if there's a God, the observations remain the same regardless. Also scientists are NOT trying to prove there is no God because that is impossible :D.
Well, yes, it's impossible to prove the metaphysical by scientific observance but many scientists still try to do anything to keep God out of the picture. Because we all know humans are supreme, yes? :p
 
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All I know is the following...

1. The ark was real.
2. If it was found, it wont matter as the word of God overrides any experience and or any physical proof.
3. What ever evidence will be burnt to a crisp during the fiery wrath of God when he renovates by fire!

Whether or not the ark has been found is irrelevant to the grand scheme of things as God's plans and historical context will play out exactly as God has deemed it to. The truth as found in Genesis stands and you either believe it or you don't!
 
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Well, yes, it's impossible to prove the metaphysical by scientific observance but many scientists still try to do anything to keep God out of the picture. Because we all know humans are supreme, yes? :p
yes because God is not a scientific explanation for anything, its not a personal attack on God its just the way it is.

Science is impartial to the ultimate cause or anything metaphysical. Even given that God is the cause for everything, you still need science to discover and describe HOW things interact in reality.

With scientific results you either find a natural explanation or you say there is no explanation at this time.
This does not exclude God it only means we have no way of knowing what is the ultimate cause.

This is why any person with any religious belief can be a scientist and get the same results, the bias comes out in the interpreting of the results.
 
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Tintin

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All I know is the following...

1. The ark was real.
2. If it was found, it wont matter as the word of God overrides any experience and or any physical proof.
3. What ever evidence will be burnt to a crisp during the fiery wrath of God when he renovates by fire!

Whether or not the ark has been found is irrelevant to the grand scheme of things as God's plans and historical context will play out exactly as God has deemed it to. The truth as found in Genesis stands and you either believe it or you don't!
Noah, his family and later their descendants probably used the wood from the Ark to create shelters and the like. If there was anything left after that, pieces were probably broken off and used as sacred relics. Also, wood breaks down over time and a few thousand years have passed since the Ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
 
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All I know is the following...

2. If it was found, it wont matter as the word of God overrides any experience and or any physical proof.
This is bad reasoning that leads to bad decisions. Why not trust your senses and observations and see if the word of God holds up? If it is correct then future discoveries will validate its claims.
Otherwise you are stating that you know the truth and nothing can be presented to prove you wrong.
This is the very essence of stubborn ignorance.