The Nephilim are interesting enough but can we please leave them out of this thread. We already have many threads on them, just perform a Search.
i do agree the nephilim would be better left out,in post 72 they were spoken of as "the reason for the flood". in my post#141 i was trying to point out not so much the nephilim but time frame i wish i could change the "color" of the words that i capitalized instead it is as though i am screaming when i am not(only trying to emphasize certain words),,
in gen.6;4 Moses says(so i think we should see it as if Moses is reciting the story) he first says "in those days",,,then he separates "those days" by the statement "and also after that" so (i think to myself) the next few chapters gen. 6-10 are based on this statement. then in the latter half of gen.6;4 Moses also says "men of old",(so i think to myself)"old in aspect to what?" there is only the time from the 1st day till the flood and Moses is saying that these who existed before some point in time also exist after a certain time. but i do agree to discuss the nephilim,sons of god ect. would change the o.p.
in the former post it was brought up that it had rained/had not yet rained ect. but when they were discussed it was not mentioned "every herb of the field before it grew" so in the matter of time frame the herbs(trees,plants i suppose) were not yet growing on the earth either.(gen.2;5) and the reason given is because the "man" was not in the earth to till it,(he at that time was in Eden gen.2;8 and and gen.2;15,,so as for the timing for the event of god causing it to begin to rain on the earth would be "after Adam,Eve and the serpent were driven out of the garden(gen.3;23) because this is where he is said to "till",,
in gen. 1;9-10 there is a description of the condition of the earth as if it is completely covering the mass of land and then the waters (under the heaven) were then gathered into (one place) and then the dry land appeared and he then calls the dry land earth and the water seas,,,but he distinctly states (one place) so there in that time-frame is only "one mass of land and one mass of water",unless there is a reason to believe it is metaphorical.
oldhermit mentioned a former post of his where we discussed the same about pangea(i think this is where i mentioned this before) but in gen.7;11,,"were all the fountains of the great deep were broken up(AND)the windows of heaven were opened" so in scripture the flood did not come from the sky as rain,but also the fountains beneath were broken up(division of pangea begins) and the whole earth is flooded.
the land mass then present if in movement would change the "sea level" that is if we take a continent the size of the Americas and the artic and they went down in altitude it would have the same effect as filling a bucket half way with water setting a brick in it(the brick on its end standing out of the water) and then setting another brick sideways beside it(so the brick on its end we see now is covered with water),then turning the other brick on its end,,,now there is a new "sea level".
in 2nd peter 3;5-6 peter describes the same as gen.7;11,,,peter says "the earth standing out of the water (AND)in the water:whereby the world that then was,being(OVERFLOWED)with water perished. so in the description peter is giving of the flood part of the land is standing above sea level and part is moving below sea level(changing the sea level in aspect to the land standing stationary), this might seem impossible but if we take into consideration the measurements taken at Yellowstone the magma underneath it causes it to move up and down several meters in altitude.
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