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OneFaith

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hello everybody i'm chinese live in china ,from Xi'an (capital of [FONT=微软雅黑]Shaanxi Province); Sian[/FONT]

I don't want to be banned from this forum

so Let me start thinking about my thoughts ,This began on October 10th 2008,The greatest moments of life,I really saw Jesus ,just as a priest who once told me :"u never know how big is him." now, i understand :"he is so big , i never know before,his love is so big. " And I learned about mysteries I never knew before。Almighty god。
I felt depressed that day and walked onto the balcony, which was cloudy morning, overcast and looks dark。I saw clouds like Chinese dragon, moving its body and watching me as said :" you little guy " when it's moving the sun is the one eye.Stare at me. time is AM 12:00
(I admit that sometimes I read Bible sometimes,I thought reading Bible Learning truth or philosophy,before October 10th 2008,But I don't have a clear idea of God in my mind,Just think Jesus is the greatest man in the world,Because of a movie.The Passion of the Christ,An English teacher introduced to me ,and he told me :"u must read the book" ,but he didn't give a bible to me,LOL.maybe i'm chinese can't read very well english book kjv. just kidding. I think he love this book, so he only have one in china ,never mind , He's an American from Texas.I don't think he knows where to buy in China at that time 1999 or 2000,Can't remember specific years)

Let's get back to the point,I want to describe my experiences as much as possible. i was not too amazing when I watching the sun the eye or the clouds or the Chinese dragon , i'm a Gifted artist when i'm 6 years old ,my father is Art teacher also a carpenter,my mom is english teacher,but i'm still not good at english . People often says what clouds might looks like , but i know what i saw,i'm Gifted artist,it's not just looks like,i know which is which.

Then clouds came back to normal,I walked back to my room calmly,and thought "Shall I go out again? " I started wondering what I saw just curiosity。I go back to the balcony .and watch the sky and cloud , He showed up again in the form of Chinese dragon. I started thinking about taking pictures of my Motorola phone。Just as I was ready to take pictures,I saw him who beginning to feel angry,the color turned to red blood, I said clouds turned blood, then disappeared immediately , disappeared .I was scared, feeling as i just killled him.

looking into the sky,heavy clouds and low down to surface ,lights looks dark,Suddenly clouds opened a hole in the sky .Bigger and bigger ,Perfect circle ,could see the sky very blue....There is a cloud of point at the center ,Bigger and bigger ,A huge white cross/crucifix appeared before me,
Then Jesus appeared before the cross; his gorgeous clothes were nothing like this world,but i didn't see the face ,the face is blue sky , Posture is like Jesus Brazilian at Brazil,I'd rather repeat it again,his gorgeous clothes were nothing like this world,Clothes hung over the feet,Sleeve design is perfect,Hairstyles are consistent with what we think 。saints slowly appeared on his left side of Jesus ,Smaller than Jesus,Angel and two wings ,The number is about 12 to 30 ,Confused with men or women , feels like one flesh.
(Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,and shall cleave unto his wife:and they shall be one flesh.)

other vision ,I saw in the sky, Pyramid,Greek Athena ,old chinese firearms,etc。。。。。 It's all shows with the form of clouds as movie,I don't think it means anything. I think it's just describing long history.

I saw a Naked girl ,Slowly emerge in front of me,Greek hairstyle,Very beautiful,She has a beautiful [fine] profile.; She is fine in profile. the view of profile,hard to tell. I saw her slowly swelling stomach,Don't know why I was slightly uncontrollable kneeling down .

when all these finished,Time has reached to 3-5 p.m.I just feel a few minutes 。

I can't givr u a pic or video to Prove these, I even want to make a CG by myself to say :"look, i have proof ",but broken PC i got. maybe it's the law NO.1""

nomatter what u Believe me or not , I'm in peace, the prower of god.


Colossians 2:18 "Such a person goes into great detail about what they have seen."


 

soberxp

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Colossians 2:18 "Such a person goes into great detail about what they have seen."


Colossians 2:18 "Such a person goes into great detail about what they have seen."
[FONT=微软雅黑]Then the Bible admits that I am such a person, so what I see is true,[FONT=微软雅黑][FONT=微软雅黑][FONT=微软雅黑]Do you want to deny it[/FONT]
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mcubed

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I do not know what you experienced, but we have the word of our testimony. I am a Jew, brought up Jewish, and my first husband was murdered in December of 1990. It was February 1991.... Wait I should explain back in June of 1990 we were invited to a Baptist church with friends, we went. When the alter came Alexie said he wanted to go down; he is a beautiful Russian Jew. I looked at him like he was stupid but he got saved. In December of 1990 he was shot, in the lower abdomen; the bullet lodged into his spinal column and he died. Now it's February 1991 and I am sitting in Patton's restaurant and hear with my ear, but no one else if you die tonight you will go to hell. I had a fear come over me like I never felt before or since and I knew it was Y-shua and He was/G-d. I said LORD SAVE ME!!!! I went home, not telling anyone but for two weeks I prayed and I came to know Y-shua was Messiah. Shortly after I decided if Christians know about Messiah I need to know too so I went to Bible College to know what Christians knew. My sister said (sarcastically but I decided she was right) if you are a christian shouldn't you go to church. So after a year or so of bible college I started going to church.... 26+ years later the rest is history....



The point is I heard what I heard that night in Patton's restaurant, and I, and all the people Messih has allowed me to brig to Him are the fruit. Messiah is about everlasting life. It is not for me to decide to believe or not.... Messiah brings brings everlasting life!!!! Does your visions?
 
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Colossians 2:18 "Such a person goes into great detail about what they have seen."
[FONT=微软雅黑]Then the Bible admits that I am such a person, so what I see is true,[FONT=微软雅黑][FONT=微软雅黑][FONT=微软雅黑]Do you want to deny it[/FONT]
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It’s actually the things that you do not see by faith. We see orunderstand as we are given his faith to see the eternal and anything that is not of his faith is sin .

It is simply the father of lies bringing pictures into one fleshly mind.Just as he did with the Son of man in Mathew 4 . Christ's response all three time, as it is written. The one source of Christian faith.


18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in avoluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things whichhe hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Col 2 :18


God is no longer bringing any new revelations in any manner as of His last before he sealed up the possibility of adding more. The book of Revelation.


Need more than he has revealed? Why go above that which is written?
 
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Ariel82

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[FONT=微软雅黑]Through Jesus Christ[/FONT][FONT=微软雅黑]We can overcome sin ,nomatter what , [FONT=微软雅黑]Something that desires good things but cannot be obtained,

summarize with one word " peace ."

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I meant the article you said you read.
 
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I've been reading your thread. I can't say I understand the visions at all, but if I ever told you what I've seen, you probably wouldn't understand it either. Our cultures are so different, just that makes it get lost in translations. But, I do get God started calling you on October 10, 2008.

Might I make a suggestion that spans all cultures? Instead of seeking signs, (and it is a wonderful feeling when given a sign, so I do get why it would be easy to keep seeking signs themselves), seek the Lord instead. His signs are amazing, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more than that.


oh ,Forgot to say,i have a fig tree on my balcony at October 10th 2008. and I have Some myopia , but When I saw miracles, I didn't have any myopia problem,only When I saw the miracles.but now i still have myopia problem. i don't know why, but i know god can heal my myopia .

God can heal my myopia。。。。Only when I saw miracles my myopia was healed for a moment,it feels like telescope。
so any question or discussion ?
As for myopia? We're more apt to call that nearsightedness in English. It's not a disease. It's not that big a deal, thanks to the Lord for someone inventing eyeglasses. But I know there are moments when I can see clearly, and most moments I need my glasses. Assume you get what most people get -- old-age eyes the older you get. My husband was born with more-than-perfect eyesight. He had 20/10 eyesight. (What most people can see at 10 feet, he could see at 20 feet.) Now he is 71 years old, and bemoaning needing glasses. But, truthfully, he felt like he needed glasses 20 years ago and his eyesight got "so bad" he could only see like most people. Now his eyesight is as bad as mine was at birth. 20/50. (What most people can see at 50 feet, we could see at 20 feet.) For me, I'd still would like 20/50, because mine got worse.

All in all, it really doesn't matter, because we can see 20/20 with glasses.

All that just to say, myopia isn't one of those things we need a miracle for. We don't really need miracles. What we do need is the Lord.
 
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i have read bible . thx
It's the only book that needs more than one read-through. Every time we read it, we learn more about the Lord. There is no end of "read the Bible." The Bible is the clearest way the Lord talks to us. It is the clearest way we come to know who he is. It is our umbilical cord to the Lord. Keep reading and praying that he will use it to teach you about him.
 
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isn't god is the king of king ? [FONT=微软雅黑]In Chinese culture[/FONT],[FONT=微软雅黑]Our dragon representative[/FONT] king .others would says it [FONT=微软雅黑]representative[/FONT] father ?


peace in heart:cool:
If in your culture, the dragon represents the king and/or father, then the Lord is the dragon over all other dragons!
 
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In Christian culture dragon or serpent represents the god of this world The father of lies . Eternal God remains without mother or father beginning of Spirit life or end thereof . God is not a creature. He is Spirit, not a man as us
Actually, the dragon can be a good symbol or a bad symbol, even in western culture. Dragon often represents protector.

And another concept dragon is used in western culture is a life threatening virus or disease. "Slaying the dragon" is an euphemism for chemo therapy. A reason for people to stay on it no matter how sick it makes them feel.
 
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did you try this ? and understand what i said .?!
I would say ,even after our birth, we still live in [FONT=微软雅黑] "uterus" , what we have done ,all by hands as we still [FONT=微软雅黑]growing in "[FONT=微软雅黑]uterus[/FONT]"[/FONT], you call that "[FONT=微软雅黑]born[/FONT] again" "reborn" ,can you get what i mean ? [FONT=微软雅黑]We've been designed so cleverly by God[/FONT][/FONT]
This is one of those moments where what you're saying means something to you, but I'm not understanding it. I don't think westerners will understand it. It sounds like we're unborn babies permanently, forever in the mother's womb. (Womb is usually what we call the uterus too. I don't know why. Just a word more often used in conversation. Less intimate, I guess.)

Nothing for or against what you're saying, because I don't understand it, but I do understand it will set off more than a few westerners with a negative feel to it. Something like if you've ever seen westerners do something that, according to your culture, shows disrespect, but they only do that because they don't know it is showing disrespect. They're naive. To us, "uterus" is usually a word used in a medical setting. When it's not about anything medical, it feels like watching pornography. We're not, and you're not, but the feeling is close to that. We get embarrassed by it. (Womb, on the other hand, has less of that effect.)

And just something funny about this -- rumor has it, Chinese is the hardest language to learn. I keep thinking how hard you're trying for English. And I think, "Wow. He's doing good, looking up English words online to communicate when he doesn't quite know that word. How bad would we be, if we had to do the same thing in his language?"
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What you are describing is your "knowledge" being reflected back to you while satan the Dragon otherwise known as old serpent,giving you "what you want" for naturally being an artist satan is playing on your "talent" and hoping you to think him "some great entity".
I'm no dream interpreter but what you have described is so "mismatched" that it's certainly not of God nor Jesus for a few obvious reasons...
1.God/Jesus would not "hide" from you or anyone nor get "angry" without stating a "reason"
2.The visions or manifestations were so "vague" in reason or timing yet portrayed as if you could reach out and touch them considering the great detail you have shared
I don't doubt this actually occured but I do doubt that this was done by God/Jesus unto you.
That's your culture talking, not God talking. Actually, do a study in the Bible of everyone who ever met God face-to-face, and notice what they saw. I can think of two men -- Moses and Paul. (Well, John had a vision of Jesus too, and did see his face, but John knew his face intimately, and it still wasn't the face he knew, unless Jesus' tongue turned into a sword and he went bright-white on hair. lol) And neither one saw God's face. They saw what he wore and where he stood. And where he stood was a big blue something-another. (I've often wondered if the big blue below him wasn't actually the Earth's atmosphere. I don't know. Both men had to translate what they saw into the words and culture of their time, because whatever they saw didn't really fit into everyday seeing.)

I really don't get all that soberxp saw. I'm also not someone who believes in visions much, but I did get that what he saw does match quite a bit of what Moses and Paul saw. And, am a bit shocked that he didn't see the same thing those two men of God didn't see -- God's face!

God went to what would become China long long ago, and he presented himself to those people enough that they had a word for him that we recognize -- Jao. It means Jehovah, but through the centuries it was reduced down to Tao. God went to Italy before it was a Roman Empire and made himself known to those people too with a word we'd recognize -- Jove! It means Jehovah, but was reduced down to Jupiter later on.

Do not think God is hampered by people or culture. He will have himself a people of every land, and that includes China. Matter of fact, a great awakening is happening in China in the last couple of decades, while a great sleeping is happening in the west.

Just because it goes against our culture does not mean it goes against God.
 
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Colossians 2:18 "Such a person goes into great detail about what they have seen."
[FONT=微软雅黑]Then the Bible admits that I am such a person, so what I see is true,[FONT=微软雅黑][FONT=微软雅黑][FONT=微软雅黑]Do you want to deny it[/FONT]
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I might go with that, but I tend to think she lands more on verse 23. LOL
 
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It’s actually the things that you do not see by faith. We see orunderstand as we are given his faith to see the eternal and anything that is not of his faith is sin .

It is simply the father of lies bringing pictures into one fleshly mind.Just as he did with the Son of man in Mathew 4 . Christ's response all three time, as it is written. The one source of Christian faith.


18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in avoluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things whichhe hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Col 2 :18


God is no longer bringing any new revelations in any manner as of His last before he sealed up the possibility of adding more. The book of Revelation.


Need more than he has revealed? Why go above that which is written?
Where did Sober go past what is already written in his vision? (Interpretation? Maybe, but his vision wasn't off the mark.)
 

soberxp

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I do not know what you experienced, but we have the word of our testimony. I am a Jew, brought up Jewish, and my first husband was murdered in December of 1990. It was February 1991.... Wait I should explain back in June of 1990 we were invited to a Baptist church with friends, we went. When the alter came Alexie said he wanted to go down; he is a beautiful Russian Jew. I looked at him like he was stupid but he got saved. In December of 1990 he was shot, in the lower abdomen; the bullet lodged into his spinal column and he died. Now it's February 1991 and I am sitting in Patton's restaurant and hear with my ear, but no one else if you die tonight you will go to hell. I had a fear come over me like I never felt before or since and I knew it was Y-shua and He was/G-d. I said LORD SAVE ME!!!! I went home, not telling anyone but for two weeks I prayed and I came to know Y-shua was Messiah. Shortly after I decided if Christians know about Messiah I need to know too so I went to Bible College to know what Christians knew. My sister said (sarcastically but I decided she was right) if you are a christian shouldn't you go to church. So after a year or so of bible college I started going to church.... 26+ years later the rest is history....



The point is I heard what I heard that night in Patton's restaurant, and I, and all the people Messih has allowed me to brig to Him are the fruit. Messiah is about everlasting life. It is not for me to decide to believe or not.... Messiah brings brings everlasting life!!!! Does your visions?
[FONT=微软雅黑]I believe you because I know that I hear many voices in my ears. [FONT=微软雅黑]Some people joke with me ,even my dad's voice, but he did not dead .he is not [FONT=微软雅黑]Christian[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
 
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soberxp

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don't get me wrong ,[FONT=微软雅黑]I don't live with my father[/FONT]
 

soberxp

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I do not know what you experienced, but we have the word of our testimony. I am a Jew, brought up Jewish, and my first husband was murdered in December of 1990. It was February 1991.... Wait I should explain back in June of 1990 we were invited to a Baptist church with friends, we went. When the alter came Alexie said he wanted to go down; he is a beautiful Russian Jew. I looked at him like he was stupid but he got saved. In December of 1990 he was shot, in the lower abdomen; the bullet lodged into his spinal column and he died. Now it's February 1991 and I am sitting in Patton's restaurant and hear with my ear, but no one else if you die tonight you will go to hell. I had a fear come over me like I never felt before or since and I knew it was Y-shua and He was/G-d. I said LORD SAVE ME!!!! I went home, not telling anyone but for two weeks I prayed and I came to know Y-shua was Messiah. Shortly after I decided if Christians know about Messiah I need to know too so I went to Bible College to know what Christians knew. My sister said (sarcastically but I decided she was right) if you are a christian shouldn't you go to church. So after a year or so of bible college I started going to church.... 26+ years later the rest is history....



The point is I heard what I heard that night in Patton's restaurant, and I, and all the people Messih has allowed me to brig to Him are the fruit. Messiah is about everlasting life. It is not for me to decide to believe or not.... Messiah brings brings everlasting life!!!! Does your visions?
[FONT=微软雅黑]I believe you because I know that I hear many voices in my ears,and did not see anyone around me. [FONT=微软雅黑]Some people joke with me ,even my dad's voice, but he did not dead ,he is still alive .he is not [FONT=微软雅黑]Christian[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT] ,don't get me wrong ,[FONT=微软雅黑]I don't live with my father[/FONT]
 
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Extend your hands, spread out and keep hands together, The shape of palm texture is the shape of uterus,So we were created by God.:cool:
lol it actually is