Your right, I have a one dimensional view, Christ is my view. Christ is my hope. Christ is my focus, And Christ is my shepherd. When I stray, he comes and gets me, and being his sheep. I hear his voice and I follow.
You have what I call a two dimensional view. It is not just on Christ, But on yourself.
God gave abraham a covenant of Grace Abraham was not even awake when God confirmed it, And God did not give Abraham any conditions, He said I WILL.
That is the new covenant, It replaces the old covenant, which says if you do these things, I will do those things. That covenant was double ended, It depended on God, and the person having the ability to do what God demanded.
What did God demand?
"Confirm and OBEY EVER WORD written in this law"
No one who ever experienced Gods true love would ever want a divorce.
All I can fathom is you have never experienced it, thats why you can not comprehend it..
but I will not judge, Only go off what I see.
Nope. I believe Gods love is so great and so powerful so wonderful and so unimaginal that anyone who has ever truly experienced it will never want to walk away from it.
and by the way, John said they were never saved, (they were never of us), Your argument is with him, not me..
What is the difference? it is still lost. it is still something someone had, then they no longer have it, by their own actions of what you call "giving it back" they lost it.
Wrong dude, the Abraham covenant was not on free choice, it was based on Gods promise.
Mans choice could not stop Israel from becoming a nation, Mans choice could not stop it from getting its land, Mans choice could not stop it from giving birth to the savior. and mans choice can not stop God from fulfilling his promise of all the world being blessed by the seed of Abraham (the new covenant).
if they think they are hopelessly lost, then they must still believe in Jesus, which means your view that they have fallen because they now reject Jesus and do not even believe he exists has been a false view all along.
second, I gave my view yesterday, I in fact gave two possibilities, Only one of which they were never saved. So again, You have slandered me, Do you ever get sick of sinning my friend? I have no problem discussing the word with you out of love, But if your going to continue to slander me with your lies.. We can have no discussion..
Well here we go again, Your lies and your hate has twisted you into this person that can not fathom anything I say anymore.
You think I would say I have done no wrong? Unlike others, I do not think I can hide from God, when I make a mistake, I go to him because he is my abba father, I do not have to hide my sin from him, I openly confess my sin.
Your arguing against a doctrine which you think I believe, you are not trying to discuss my view at all.. Yesterday you correctly said we need to stop using key words like OSAS and WORKS, because it is preventing us from having real conversation, yet here you are going against your own advice and arguing a doctrine and view you think I believe, and not what I really think.
by the way, i di dnot condemn that persons family member to hell yesterday like you said I did. Are you ever going to apologize for your slander?