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false gospel with no power!
Baffling, I truly cannot grasp it, I never knew the true gospel until I was twenty, and soon as I heard it I knew the power of it, it was self-evident.

Wow Jesus died for me and I can be born again and if I believe He will give me His gift of eternal life.

That is truly powerful, a gospel that has no power to save is false.

A gospel that demands, is not a free gift.

A gospel that comes with stipulations, nullifies the cross.

You are right end of story!!!

Ultimately, those of that believe this powerful gospel, always come back to this central point, even though we may disagree in other areas we always agree here and for that I am truly grateful!!!



We all know how the workers for reject verb tense, context, verbiage and the simple truth that It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save those that believe.....the simplicity that is found in Christ....amen...rest sure in faith becaise it and it alone is what saves a man......to embellish with works to obtain or keep = false gospel with no power!
 
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Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Act 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common(they shared their belongings).
Act 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

Yah,yah,they say we will do good works because Christ is in us,then they do not want to be obedient,and sell all they have and give to the poor,as Jesus told the rich man.

Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

That is what this Church did.They would not take care of the poor and the needy like they should,in which the Bible says the love of God does not dwell in them,and they were fallen,and needed to repent,and get with the program of loving people,or Jesus would go against them.

And you hear,and see,that a lot.We will do good works,because Christ is in us,but the works have nothing to do with salvation,but will not sell all their unnecessary possessions,and give it to the poor and needy,but instead they believe the prosperity Gospel that is opposite of what the Bible says,which the Bible says,if they preach the prosperity Gospel,withdraw yourself from them.

Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Rev 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

If works do not matter in salvation,then why is Jesus telling them to do works,and their works are not perfect before God,and to repent,or else He will come and tickle their stomach,no,He will come against them if they do not repent.

If works do not matter in salvation,then why are we not right with Jesus if we do not do those works,and if we will do works because Christ is in us,but they have nothing do to with salvation,then why did they lack works,and their works were not perfect.

If the people that believe according to this way were arrested as a collective group,and had to go to court because of their beliefs,under suspicion that they are false,and lies,and they hired a defense attorney,the attorney after reading their beliefs,and comparing it to scriptures,would say,forget it,I cannot do it,for I cannot untangle this mess that you people have made of the scriptures,and make a solid case for you,for whichever way I try to present it there is falsehood to cover truth,and falsehood to cover falsehood,and twists and turns,that I cannot possibly keep a straight path to present a case for you.
Amen bro. Clear as water and bright as the sun. God bless you.
 
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Salvation is personally believing on the work of the cross and accepting HIS work on your behalf. (and to use a Dcon phrase end of story!!)

Salvation is an eternal gift to those who believe that Jesus bore their sins and made restitution for us.

Because of Adam's work we all died, sin entered into the world.

He did this because our works are as filthy rags and can never compensate for the sin we inherited through Adam.
Amen for sure.....I agree.....
 
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Interesting that those who also called him Lord, Lord were cast away from.

Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?'

Matthew 7:22

He is Lord we do not make Him Lord.
Exactly.....because their faith was in their works....as opposed to the Lord.
 

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Salvation is personally believing on the work of the cross and accepting HIS work on your behalf. (and to use a Dcon phrase end of story!!)

Salvation is an eternal gift to those who believe that Jesus bore their sins and made restitution for us.

Because of Adam's work we all died, sin entered into the world.

He did this because our works are as filthy rags and can never compensate for the sin we inherited through Adam.
I would say, sin and death entered because of Adam, both of which
Christ bore for us :) We are born into Adam and need a Spiritual rebirth.
 
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Things were peaceful here for a couple of days.
But I see you are back.
what does that tell you?
PEACEFUL....you should lay off the juice....I just read 20 pages worth of back and forth that are no different in scope and or attitude....and while I am there...your support of your buddy who embraces and pushes a working for dogma goes beyond normal.....add some value Allen...instead of mouthy, cutting remarks that add to the strife...
 
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They will be stunned when he shows up.
He'll prolly have dcon in tears crying for his mama before he gets done with us here.
Highly unlikely Phart.....how does that sound Phart...how can one take serious a man who uses the name Phart
 
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I DOTH PROTEST DCON.

I HAVE NEVER SAID ANY OF THE ABOVE.
HOW DARE YOU PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH.

This you do because I DARED you to post some words of Jesus and YOU CAN'T.

It's not my fault if you TEACH INCORRECT DOCTRINE AND THEN CANNOT BACK IT UP.

Please find where I said the above and post it if you have ANY HONOR AT ALL.

Ms. Magenta LOVES to call people liars.
WHERE IS SHE NOW THAT WE NEED HER???

How about stopping with the snide remarks and acting like a normal human being and speaking about scripture.
YOU are a truly bad example for YOUR teachings...

By how you act, it's apparent that what you teach cannot be correct.

The Holy Spirit is far from you. The Holy Spirit CANNOT DWELL WHERE SIN DWELLS.

You sin almost every time you open your mouth.

You should read your bible,
change Church,

DO SOMETHING to become the man the Holy Spirit would like you to become.
All one has to do is read the thread...the above post becomes all to obvious...Your very slick for sure....
 

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after quoting all that scripture you fail to prove , how you got, saved from this condemning law, .with your interpretation of scripture, you only prove one thing, the scripture you posted here, from the bible,is much the same wording that is in my bible.
John 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.

Ephesians 4:25 Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.

1 Timothy 6:20-21 Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge, which some have professed and in so doing have wandered from the faith. GRACE BE WITH YOU.
 
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Highly unlikely Phart.....how does that sound Phart...how can one take serious a man who uses the name Phart
I'm not involved in all this petty BDF bickering, but this was a childish comment, even for the BDF.


All of you pointing fingers, when you're all actually guilty. It takes two to tango. Perhaps spend less time justifying your own comments, and criticizing others and take an objective look at your comments. If the things you were saying to others were said to you would you still find it acceptable?
But it's fruitless to talk to people here. The levels of pride and lack of personal awareness in here is insane.
 

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your posting a post, on a forum.

this is a parable spoken to the crowd that gathered to hear jesus.

can you give scripture,to prove that there were, any gentiles in the crowd.
Is this parable ?

why you think this is parable?

I believe this is the principle what the last judgement Will be.

The last judgement Will be whether you have agape love or not

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[h=1]Matthew 22:36-40King James Version (KJV)[/h]36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Do not kill

if you love your son you not kill him

do not envy

if you love you friend you not envy to him

if you love your fellow man you feed them when they hungry

matt 25 is a manefestation of agape love. And that Will be the characteristic used by Jesus to determined whether we go to heaven or hell.

I do not know If any gentiles in that crowd, why you need to know?








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Baffling, I truly cannot grasp it, I never knew the true gospel until I was twenty, and soon as I heard it I knew the power of it, it was self-evident.

Wow Jesus died for me and I can be born again and if I believe He will give me His gift of eternal life.

That is truly powerful, a gospel that has no power to save is false.

A gospel that demands, is not a free gift.

A gospel that comes with stipulations, nullifies the cross.

You are right end of story!!!

Ultimately, those of that believe this powerful gospel, always come back to this central point, even though we may disagree in other areas we always agree here and for that I am truly grateful!!!
Amen UG......there is power in the blood.....and the faith to receive it.......void of works to gain or keep it...
 
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I'm not involved in all this petty BDF bickering, but this was a childish comment, even for the BDF.


All of you pointing fingers, when you're all actually guilty. It takes two to tango. Perhaps spend less time justifying your own comments, and criticizing others and take an objective look at your comments. If the things you were saying to others were said to you would you still find it acceptable?
But it's fruitless to talk to people here. The levels of pride and lack of personal awareness in here is insane.
Sure....and while there...take the beam out of your one eye then you can see clearly concerning my beams...I have read many a comment from you as well that can fit the grouping that you have lumped my comment into pal!
 
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One thing that amazes me is the fact that almost everyone can dish out pointed, sarcastic, comments that cut in some form or fashion and then will whine, cry, point a finger or fire back without pondering the fact that just an hour ago, a day ago or maybe a week ago they have done the selfsame thing....I have tried real hard to do better....not calling anyone a cake taker in some time and will continue to curb what I say....Even last week I reported one of my own comments and ask a moderator to change the verbiage....so....just chunk my verbiage today in under GRACE.....the same grace that allows for men to be saved by faith ;)
 
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Is this parable ?

why you think this is parable?

I believe this is the principle what the last judgement Will be.

The last judgement Will be whether you have agape love or not

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Matthew 22:36-40King James Version (KJV)

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Do not kill

if you love your son you not kill him

do not envy

if you love you friend you not envy to him

if you love your fellow man you feed them when they hungry

matt 25 is a manefestation of agape love. And that Will be the characteristic used by Jesus to determined whether we go to heaven or hell.

I do not know If any gentiles in that crowd, why you need to know?






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Originally Posted by royalscot

your posting a post, on a forum.

this is a parable spoken to the crowd that gathered to hear jesus.

can you give scripture,to prove that there were, any gentiles in the crowd.


you were asked this.





Jesus give specific Example what He want us to do, that count oN judgement day

Matt 25

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you,inasmuch AS ye have done It unto one of the least of these my brethren ye have done It unto me

how did you logic reach, the meaning to murder.

28 And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.2

would that constitute believing in a saviour, firsty, or believing in a law that you cannot prove, from scripture ,that cannot condemn a believer.
 
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how did you logic reach, the meaning to murder. it is also wrote ,in the bible, break one command, you break them all.


to be redeemed from consequence from that law, you would need a saviour.

to steal other peoples, written work, would that not be class,as also stealing.
 
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Jackson123

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Is this parable ?

why you think this is parable?

I believe this is the principle what the last judgement Will be.

The last judgement Will be whether you have agape love or not

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Matthew 22:36-40King James Version (KJV)

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Do not kill

if you love your son you not kill him

do not envy

if you love you friend you not envy to him

if you love your fellow man you feed them when they hungry

matt 25 is a manefestation of agape love. And that Will be the characteristic used by Jesus to determined whether we go to heaven or hell.

I do not know If any gentiles in that crowd, why you need to know?





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Originally Posted by royalscot

your posting a post, on a forum.

this is a parable spoken to the crowd that gathered to hear jesus.

can you give scripture,to prove that there were, any gentiles in the crowd.


you were asked this.





Jesus give specific Example what He want us to do, that count oN judgement day

Matt 25

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you,inasmuch AS ye have done It unto one of the least of these my brethren ye have done It unto me

how did you logic reach, the meaning to murder.

28 And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.2

would that constitute believing in a saviour, firsty, or believing in a law that you cannot prove, from scripture ,that cannot condemn a believer.
verse 28 from what book.

What verse is Your question about believing savior or law ?

when Jesus say, last judgement Will be whether you have agape love or not, do you believe It Will happen or not?

if that parable than what is in real?

for Example, parable of the sower,

in real soil mean people seed mean gospel
 
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One thing that amazes me is the fact that almost everyone can dish out pointed, sarcastic, comments that cut in some form or fashion and then will whine, cry, point a finger or fire back without pondering the fact that just an hour ago, a day ago or maybe a week ago they have done the selfsame thing....I have tried real hard to do better....not calling anyone a cake taker in some time and will continue to curb what I say....Even last week I reported one of my own comments and ask a moderator to change the verbiage....so....just chunk my verbiage today in under GRACE.....the same grace that allows for men to be saved by faith ;)
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yet some miss, when can you eat ,written posted messages, wrote on a forum, with context to a verb or herb.

so what can be add to a finished work.
 
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verse 28 from what book.

What verse is Your question about believing savior or law ?

when Jesus say, last judgement Will be whether you have agape love or not, do you believe It Will happen or not?

if that parable than what is in real?

for Example, parable of the sower,

in real soil mean people seed mean gospel
in your opinion. it means that.

when did i ask for your opinion in what the parable meant

Originally Posted by royalscot

your posting a post, on a forum.

this is a parable spoken to the crowd that gathered to hear jesus.

can you give scripture,to prove that there were, any gentiles in the crowd.


when you were asked this firstly.
 
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Of course, you know I am all about being under Grace...and this true for all of us equally.

Even if we get caught up in it, it does not take away from the what is being discussed and it should continue because the OP is the truth and God's word does not return void.

[SUP]11 [/SUP]So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Isaiah 55:11

One thing that amazes me is the fact that almost everyone can dish out pointed, sarcastic, comments that cut in some form or fashion and then will whine, cry, point a finger or fire back without pondering the fact that just an hour ago, a day ago or maybe a week ago they have done the selfsame thing....I have tried real hard to do better....not calling anyone a cake taker in some time and will continue to curb what I say....Even last week I reported one of my own comments and ask a moderator to change the verbiage....so....just chunk my verbiage today in under GRACE.....the same grace that allows for men to be saved by faith ;)