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Seohce

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Get right and quit lying and falsely accusing....more proof you cannot keep that which you push and espouse dogmatically
Psalm 1:1 BOOK I Psalms 1–41 Psalm 1 Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers.

Proverbs 9:7-10 “Whoever corrects a mocker invites insult; whoever rebukes a wicked man incurs abuse. Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you. Instruct a wise man and he will be wiser still; teach a righteous man and he will add to his learning. “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 13:1-3 A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, but a mocker does not listen to rebuke. From the fruit of his lips a man enjoys good things, but the unfaithful have a craving for violence. He who guards his lips guards his life, but he who speaks rashly will come to ruin.

I AM NOT LYING AS YOU DO.

YOUR OWN WORDS REVEAL WHO YOU REALLY ARE.

John 12:47-48 “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day.

WHO REJECTS GOD'S WORDS?

HERE'S A PROOF OF WHO IS LYING.

Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
Who is bitter and your right I am close minded to what the bible teaches and will always oppose satanic doctrine that leads to hell......

Faith plus works for salvation leads to hell<---Galatians 1, 3

I suggest you open your eyes to the truth.....serious!

Originally posted by Seohce

New International Version 1984 John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

2 Corinthians 4:2 Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by SETTING FORTH THE TRUTH PLAINLY we commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

2 Timothy 3:12-17 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

2 Timothy 2:25 Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,

1 Corinthians 4:4-7 My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God. Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not take pride in one man over against another. For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

1 Peter 2:1-12 Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, now that you have tasted that the Lord is good. As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by men but chosen by God and precious to him— you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For in Scripture it says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone,” and, “A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for. But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy. Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul. Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.

Romans 16:17-20 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I am full of joy over you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you.

Originally Posted by Seohce View Post
By the way the truth of everything bugging your head are all in the scriptures, just need an open mind, heart, eyes, ears & true faith to accept them. This thread is turning into a discussion for baby Christians the way it appears and a good way to promote division rather than unity.

Dcon’s reply:
I hear blah, blah, blah...........and your last post 1614 has NO BEARING ON THIS THREAD.........BABY Christians you say......You should try the truth instead of your works.....faith in Jesus will take you a whole lot further than your works based pseudo religion.

YOU STOP LYING DCON CAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN UNMASKED BEFORE AND ONLY YOUR BREED WILL BELIEVE YOU.
 
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And those preaching a false gospel of works righteousness are in a round about way, teaching people, "You do not have to take the Bible literally." Am I not right, that then becomes a snowball rolling down hill, getting bigger and bigger, until it crushes their faith?


This is a great illustration how legalism and/or, a Grace plus works gospel will lead you to despair and ruin. Your sanctification and a life time pursuit of holiness and service to God does not supplant God's saving grace; Your ministry (works), is evidence that God saved you.

If you want to become the greatest in God's kingdom, you need to become as a servant. The Apostle Paul said that we should consider him as a third level galley slave, an oarsman for the gospel of Christ, at the bottom level of a cargo ship..

Excellent post VCO, God bless!
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:23-24, "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”[/FONT]
 

loveme1

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A new version of Amazing Grace for the workers for...

AMAZING WORKS that I believe
Will save a wretch like meeeeeeeeeee
I now can boast, and brag with gleeeeeee
Because it is all of meeeeeeeee

LALA LALLA LALALLA LALALLA

How difficult is it to understand....

NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, BUT ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HAS HE SAVED ME
And the version for the Law KEEPERS....who don't really keep the law

AMAZING LAWS that I MUST KEEP
TO SAVE A WRETCH LIKE ME
TRY like HECK BUT I CANNOT KEEP
NOT ONE, NOT TWO or THREE...

LALAL LALLA LALLALA

How hard is it to understand

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


You are a mocker... if your beliefs have created your behaviour then please humble and examine yourself for your own sake. You can not be content if you are resorting to such petulance.
 

loveme1

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GOD’s Amazing Grace is to be received with forever Love and Gratitude... we are to look to the Lord our Saviour...obeying the Author and Finisher of our Faith... always counting ourselves unworthy servants...
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:4, “Or do you despise the riches of His kindness, and tolerance, and patience, not knowing that the kindness of YHWH leads you to repentance?"

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Titus 2:14, “who gave Himself for us, to redeem us from all lawlessness and to cleanse for Himself a people, His own possession, ardent for good works.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Titus 3:8, “Trustworthy is the word, and in this regard I wish you to strongly affirm, that those who have believed in YHWH should keep their minds on maintaining good works. This is good and profitable to men.”[/FONT]
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mailmandan

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im a simple man. im a dumb meathead idiot.
i like simple stuff.

i think the gospel is simple. how many jumps and hoops do u need.

how can u go soul-winning if u dont believe in salvation by grace thru faith???? whats the point. instead of preaching the gospel u can go preach to churches "stay saved, dont sin, stay saved"
That salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works is not hard to understand. It's just hard for works-salvationists to ACCEPT. It's a shame that human pride will not allow works-salvationists to receive Christ. Their hands are full of their works and they will not let go in order to take hold of Christ through faith.
 

blue_ladybug

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Thank you for the rep comment. :)

I wasn't trying to say that Jesus is the lasagna. I was trying to say that when He "seals" (saves) us, that we don't become unsaved just because the cover on the lasagna may "unseal" when you take it out of the fridge.. Salvation is forever, but lasagna is temporary. Either it gets eaten, or sits in the fridge and rots.. Jesus isn't an Indian giver, he doesn't grant us salvation then snatch it away from us when we screw up.. Thank God our salvation isn't an unsecure seal on a food dish that can remove itself if it wasn't put on properly!!
 

blue_ladybug

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Thank you, SG.. :)

Because you're inviting the weirdos and perverts on here, to just randomly join you on Skype..

Don't just randomly ask people to join you on your social media. That's a very foolish and unwise thing to do.

If you want to talk about the bible, then do it here. After all, that IS why you joined, right?
 
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I heard a street preacher who said one sin and you lost your salvation. Saved one moment, lost the next, saved then again and on and on....

That kind of preaching causes people to delve deeper into sin. They fall into despair and figure that since they are already lost might as well....
AMEN......the words eternal and everlasting say it all.....God did not inspire temporal based upon our performance and or if we sin or not.....so many promises of JESUS, verb tense, verses in context, context itself, the power of God etc. must be denied, rejected, trampled under foot, stamped on, shot down, spit upon etc...in order for one to teach and or believe that salvation can be lost and or forfeit by what we do or do not do after one has exercised genuine saving faith.......
 
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Psalm 1:1 BOOK I Psalms 1–41 Psalm 1 Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers.

Proverbs 9:7-10 “Whoever corrects a mocker invites insult; whoever rebukes a wicked man incurs abuse. Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you. Instruct a wise man and he will be wiser still; teach a righteous man and he will add to his learning. “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 13:1-3 A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, but a mocker does not listen to rebuke. From the fruit of his lips a man enjoys good things, but the unfaithful have a craving for violence. He who guards his lips guards his life, but he who speaks rashly will come to ruin.

I AM NOT LYING AS YOU DO.

YOUR OWN WORDS REVEAL WHO YOU REALLY ARE.

John 12:47-48 “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day.

WHO REJECTS GOD'S WORDS?

HERE'S A PROOF OF WHO IS LYING.

Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
Who is bitter and your right I am close minded to what the bible teaches and will always oppose satanic doctrine that leads to hell......

Faith plus works for salvation leads to hell<---Galatians 1, 3

I suggest you open your eyes to the truth.....serious!

Originally posted by Seohce

New International Version 1984 John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

2 Corinthians 4:2 Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by SETTING FORTH THE TRUTH PLAINLY we commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

2 Timothy 3:12-17 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

2 Timothy 2:25 Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,

1 Corinthians 4:4-7 My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God. Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not take pride in one man over against another. For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

1 Peter 2:1-12 Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, now that you have tasted that the Lord is good. As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by men but chosen by God and precious to him— you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For in Scripture it says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone,” and, “A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for. But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy. Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul. Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.

Romans 16:17-20 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I am full of joy over you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you.

Originally Posted by Seohce View Post
By the way the truth of everything bugging your head are all in the scriptures, just need an open mind, heart, eyes, ears & true faith to accept them. This thread is turning into a discussion for baby Christians the way it appears and a good way to promote division rather than unity.

Dcon’s reply:
I hear blah, blah, blah...........and your last post 1614 has NO BEARING ON THIS THREAD.........BABY Christians you say......You should try the truth instead of your works.....faith in Jesus will take you a whole lot further than your works based pseudo religion.

YOU STOP LYING DCON CAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN UNMASKED BEFORE AND ONLY YOUR BREED WILL BELIEVE YOU.
We will see who makes the cut....and all can see your deceptive and deceitful about what we all say.....good luck with your working for I keep myself saved sinless perfectionist garbage....

Many will say.......LORD, LORD have we not done many wonderful works in your name.....<----your group.....see how that WORKS out for you

and if you cannot be honest with what we say....do not address me anymore because I will never buy your deceitful false dogma that blends works and faith for or to keep salvation because it is a lie from the pit itself....
 
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You are a mocker... if your beliefs have created your behaviour then please humble and examine yourself for your own sake. You can not be content if you are resorting to such petulance.
A mocker of false dogmas that lead to hell......your right I am.....You like my two new stanzas for the workers for and lawyers?
 
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Many will say to me in that day, "LORD, LORD have we not done many wonderful works in your name, have we not prophesied in your name, have we not cast out demons in your name"

AND JESUS WILL DO WHAT....DENY them entrance and have them cast from his presence......the word MANY is plenteous in number....because MANY trust into a false gospel of WORKS for salvation and or WORKS to keep saved.....

We'll work till JESUS comes, we'll work till JESUS comes, we'll work till JESUS comes and then be cast away.......

WORKS do not save, help stay saved, keep one saved, add to salvation, facilitate salvation, embellish salvation, lead to salvation etc.......

NOT by works of righteousness which we have DONE, but according to his mercy has HE SAVED US.

IN the grace you are, having been saved OUT OF FAITH and that NOT of yourselves, it is the GIFT of GOD, NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST.

IT IS FAITH AND FAITH ALONE that saves a man.....those who embellish faith with works peddle a false gospel

HE that BELIEVES on the SON is having everlasting LIFE

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE

Therefore we conclude that a man is JUSTIFIED by FAITH WITHOUT WORKS

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVES in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Whoever BELIEVES IN THE SON has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, the wrath of God remains on him."

it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE.

If you BELIEVE in your heart that GOD has raised him from the dead thou shalt BE SAVED

These things are written that you may BELIEVE on the SON and by BELIEVING

I have written these things to you who BELIEVE in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

But these have been written that you may BELIEVE that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing, you may have life in His name.

OH FOOLISH GALATIANS....WHO HAS BEWITCHED THEE....ANSWER me this....HAVING begun in the SPIRIT (FAITH) are you now made COMPLETE by the flesh (WORKS)

PAUL calls faith plus works to finish off salvation a false gospel of a different kind with no power to save or keep saved. It is double cursed and ALL who believe it are called FOOLISH and BEWITCHED

WAKE up to the truth before you WAKE UP in a place that you do not wish to wake up in.............!!
 
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You are a mocker... if your beliefs have created your behaviour then please humble and examine yourself for your own sake. You can not be content if you are resorting to such petulance.
There were prophets who could also be called mockers, of the false gods that is.

Like Elijah, in 1 Kings 18:25-27
 
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There were prophets who could also be called mockers, of the false gods that is.

Like Elijah, in 1 Kings 18:25-27

AMEN....more than one used sarcasm and ridicule when it came to false dogmas or religion or fake gods........and they get offended when I post a stanza based upon their belief....I figured they would incorporate it into their service....I mean after all they embrace works and law keeping and say it saves, keeps saved or will cause you to lose salvation if you do not keep or do....
 
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AMEN....more than one used sarcasm and ridicule when it came to false dogmas or religion or fake gods........and they get offended when I post a stanza based upon their belief....I figured they would incorporate it into their service....I mean after all they embrace works and law keeping and say it saves, keeps saved or will cause you to lose salvation if you do not keep or do....
I can always tell when a Christian has not read their Bibles if they get offended at certain things. Had they read the OT they would realize God uses kind of graphic imagery sometimes when He speaks in the Old Testament.
 

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No need to apologize, you are very respecful and I have taken nothing you have said as bad , offensive, rude, etc. and ask what I think is quality and interesting questions.

First the definition;

1 Timothy 2:5, "For One is YHWH; and One Mediator between YHWH and men: the Man, Yahshua Messiah."
1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man[a] Christ Jesus."

Mediator is word Original Word: μεσίτης, ου, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: mesités Phonetic Spelling: (mes-ee'-tace) Short Definition: a mediator, go-between Definition: (a) a mediator, intermediary, (b) a go-between, arbiter, agent of something good.

SO YHWH is perfect in righteousness and turns His face and ears when someone is in sin:

Psalm 66:18, "If I have seen wickedness in my heart, יהוה would not hear."

John/Yahanan 17:9, "I pray for them. I do not pray for the world, but for those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours."

1 Peter/Kepha 3:12, "For the eyes of YHWH are on the righteous, and His ears are open to their prayers; but the face of YHWH is against those who do evil."

Proverbs 15:29, "YHWH is far from the wicked, but He hears the prayer of the righteous."

Micah 3:4, "Therefore, when they cry to יהוה He does not answer them, and hides His face from them at that time, as they have made their deeds evil."

Isaiah 1:15, “And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.”

Proverbs 1:28-29, "“Let them then call on me, but I answer not; Let them seek me, but not find me. Because they hated knowledge And did not choose the fear of יהוה,"

Isaiah 57:17, "“For the crookedness of his unfair gain I was wroth and I struck him. I hid Myself and was wroth, and he went on backsliding in the way of his heart."

Proverbs 28:9, “He who turns away his ear from hearing the Torah, Even his prayer is an abomination.”

Psalms 51:10-11, “Create in me a clean heart, O Mighty One, And renew a steadfast spirit within me. Do not cast me away from Your presence, And do not take Your Set-apart Spirit from me.”

WIth Yahshua as HIgh Priset he is able to present us blameless to YHWH if we stay in Him, not that we will never sin but he is able to obtain mercy on our behalf as He is the Passover:

1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."

Romans 8:34, "Who is he who is condemning? It is Messiah who died, and furthermore is also raised up, who is also at the right hand of YHWH, who also makes intercession for us."

1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Therefore cleanse out the old leaven, so that you are a new lump, as you are unleavened. For also Messiah our Passover was offered for us. So then let us observe the festival, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."

1 Timothy 2:5, "For One is YHWH; and One Mediator between YHWH and men: the Man, Yahshua Messiah."

Jude 1:20-25, “But you, beloved ones, building yourselves up on your most set-apart belief, praying in the Set-apart Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of YHWH, looking for the compassion of our Master יהושע Messiah unto everlasting life. And show compassion toward some who are doubting, but others save with fear, snatching them out of the fire, hating, even the garment defiled by the flesh. And to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to present you blameless before the presence of His esteem with exceeding joy, to the only wise Master, our Saviour, be esteem and greatness and might and authority, both now and forever. Awmĕin.”

2 John/Yahanan 1:9, "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of the Messiah, does not have Yah. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son."
thank you!

i'm left wondering about your original comment that the Levitical priesthood mediated the Law.
my understanding of the work of a priest is to stand between men and God; God and men.
they stood in the Temple year after year offering sacrifice for sin, standing between sinful men and their Holy God, yet always having to offer sacrifice for themselves, as well. but they, i believe, actually 'mediated', if that's the right word, the mercy of God to His people for their failure to keep the Law.

i see in Scripture Moses as mediator of the Sinai covenant (Gal 3 i believe refers to Moses), and angels mentioned in Acts 7, which i think must go back to Deut 33, where angels were present in the giving of the Law, and communicated it.

i do agree the Most High God cannot regard sin (not that He does not see it, for He sees all). yet this is what makes the mediation of our Great High Priest so very precious.

the message of the entire book of Hebrews is the supremacy of the Messiah. He is greater than the angels, greater than Moses, greater than the Levitical priesthood... He sat down. tetelestai! His work is finished!

He is the Mediator of a new and better covenant, enacted on better promises. His is the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel. Christ is superior! :)

since the Lord Jesus always, only prayed the will of Him who sent Him, we can be sure that prayer will not fail. He will not fail as our Mediator, our Perfect Priest, standing between us and the Father. in this way, He always lives, and is able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him.

and, ummm... yes, studying the book of Hebrews currently. lol
 
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I can always tell when a Christian has not read their Bibles if they get offended at certain things. Had they read the OT they would realize God uses kind of graphic imagery sometimes when He speaks in the Old Testament.
AMEN...I agree totally.....for sure.