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eternally-gratefull

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And there you have it folks. We can watch naked people performing explicit sex acts on each other after all. Thank you for enlightening us.

No one said that, Thats not the issue, the issue is you judging a persons salvation b4ecause they sin.

And you admit you sin

so your just as guilty.
 
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Gee, surprise, surprise, lol!
I'm not seeing in that post everything you've accused her of. Nor did I say I agree with her, for the record. Maybe you gave the wrong link, or, you could show us where all you accused is in that post.
 
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I thought it was pretty obvious what she was saying. That 'its just reality'.

No it is scripted by creators, scripted to gain attraction of the carnal mind, like MANY things these days. It's not a history lesson, was that REALLY their intention?

I learn from my dad, that anything filled with profanity, is not of a Godly nature, it is impure. Although unlike him, I will still watch most movies with blinkers on to profanity if the content of the movie outweighs it.

They add profanity to movies and series to attract an audience. It's maths, less risk.

In fact I've noticed on many series, especially the 1st episode (depending on the studio), that they have to include '1' F word, '1' sex scene. It's like a formula, gather the largest audience, and try not to put anyone off. I seem to recall HBO were one of these.

Maybe there is a Harvey Weinstein in charge of many things to do with media.

Back in the day did they need this? Or is it censorship going down the drain, because those who value purity in creations, are dying off, to a new generation of creators who are selfish and in it for the money, or maybe even like the thought of capturing people with sick fantasies, who are these people?

Think of the movies that you cherish, that you deem as a classic. How much profanity do they have in them? So was it ever required, or is it INSERTED? Profanity doesn't accidentally go into movies and series, it is intentionally put there.

Let love cover a multitude of sin <---a concept completely foreign to workers for, sinless perfectionists and all who keep themselves saved....

and I just read her statement and she in no way shape or form states it is acceptable to watch porn or sex on T.V.

Man....what a deceptive person for sure....
 
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He never said that and your deceptive false statements help keep you saved exactly how.......the more you talk the more you prove your gospel is false......

He has lost it, He has proved his legalism beyond any shadow of a doubt, now he has to lie about others so he can save face. And make himself look good again.

its typical of legalists. That and focusing on particular sins, while ignoring their own sins, because they do not think they are that bad
 
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No one said that, Thats not the issue, the issue is you judging a persons salvation b4ecause they sin.

And you admit you sin

so your just as guilty.
Oh come on. Serious, you can do better than that, lol.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Oh, and by the way, what I said is I consider anyone an unbeliever if they watch or condone programming like Game of Thrones. I have that right as a Christian. Whether you really are lost or not is not my call. I only know I have the right and the responsibility. How do you watch out for wolves among the sheep if you can't consider a person an unbeliever?
No you do not have that right. You have no right to judge anyone. When you do so you judge yourself. UNLESS your sinless.

How can you judge a sinner as lost, when you admit your a sinner yourself? In judging them lost, you judge yourself lost.
 

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i learned a valuable lesson from my friend Helen's husband, Chuck, when i was a young woman.

though he was willing to confront a brother in the church with a sin problem, gently, to restore him, if anyone got gossipy regarding someone not in our church, whom we didn't know personally, and asked Chuck's opinion, he just smiled and said,

"He's not MY servant".
 
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Sounds like you make him a scapegoat for your own justification of certain things.

Who else was made a scapegoat?

He has lost it, He has proved his legalism beyond any shadow of a doubt, now he has to lie about others so he can save face. And make himself look good again.

its typical of legalists. That and focusing on particular sins, while ignoring their own sins, because they do not think they are that bad
 
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I thought it was pretty obvious what she was saying. That 'its just reality'.

No it is scripted by creators, scripted to gain attraction of the carnal mind, like MANY things these days. It's not a history lesson, was that REALLY their intention?

I learn from my dad, that anything filled with profanity, is not of a Godly nature, it is impure. Although unlike him, I will still watch most movies with blinkers on to profanity if the content of the movie outweighs it.

They add profanity to movies and series to attract an audience. It's maths, less risk.

In fact I've noticed on many series, especially the 1st episode (depending on the studio), that they have to include '1' F word, '1' sex scene. It's like a formula, gather the largest audience, and try not to put anyone off. I seem to recall HBO were one of these.

Maybe there is a Harvey Weinstein in charge of many things to do with media.

Back in the day did they need this? Or is it censorship going down the drain, because those who value purity in creations, are dying off, to a new generation of creators who are selfish and in it for the money, or maybe even like the thought of capturing people with sick fantasies, who are these people?

Think of the movies that you cherish, that you deem as a classic. How much profanity do they have in them? So was it ever required, or is it INSERTED? Profanity doesn't accidentally go into movies and series, it is intentionally put there.
For the record......I spend most of my time on CC with the news on in the background.....I rarely watch T.V....occasionally go to a movie and having been a Marine and worked with lost men in Machine Shop....foul language does not offend me....nor does it cause me to stumble.......as far as sex in a movie......I take no pleasure in it nor do I go out of my way to watch it....If we withdrew ourselves from the world and everything that "OFFENDS" Christians no LOST MEN would ever hear the message and or be saved......JESUS was IN the world, but NOT OF the world.......we are to be the same.........
 
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Anyone worth their salt and having a BASE understanding of the bible would say that believers should abstain from sexual immorality and or viewing it on any media outlet....so what is your point......I am fairly confident that Not I or EG or Preacher or Stones or any other regular poster in this thread would say it is OK.....regardless of any and all links you may post and or any opinion to the contrary.....
he does not understand.

The issue is not thast we condone it, If we saw a brother doing it, we would try to disciple them.

The issue is he said they were not saved, He thus became judge jury and executioner.

He did it though, He proved his gospel is more than just believing it is also stopping certain sins, and I am sure there are a lot of works he believes Ione must do.

I am waiting for his group to come defend him saying we are mean to him, and say he is not preaching works. WHo can say that now? Whoever does would have lost all credibility, if they had any to begin with.
 
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So you not supporting fornication is you not being a Pharisee, but if stand against fornication I am a Pharisee?

You were plainly suggesting that since I am against viewing pornography on TV that I would also object to the use of alcohol, but for some reason you excuse yourself from that same judgment. That's horribley hypocritical, you must agree.
He did not call their salvation in question, YOU DID.

Fess up dude..

A Pharisee puffed himself up and hit his chest thanking God he wears not like th sinner.

what do you think you are doing now? Yes, You are a Pharisee.
 
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He has lost it, He has proved his legalism beyond any shadow of a doubt, now he has to lie about others so he can save face. And make himself look good again.

its typical of legalists. That and focusing on particular sins, while ignoring their own sins, because they do not think they are that bad
I hear ya...I am done with him.....it is not worth the frustration and or anger..........and will stop there with how I really feel about his claim to fame....
 
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No you do not have that right. You have no right to judge anyone. When you do so you judge yourself. UNLESS your sinless.

How can you judge a sinner as lost, when you admit your a sinner yourself? In judging them lost, you judge yourself lost.
I can consider a person an unbeliever. Jesus said so. How else is the church going to look out for the wolves if they are not allowed to make judgments about who they consider an unbeliever, lol? Whether they really are wolves or not will be easily made known by the person themselves.

All this chatter about 'judging'. It's what unbelievers do. That's why I always have to question if someone who says they are a brother or sister is a wolf or not. They act like unbelievers so I treat them like one. That doesn't mean I hate them, or won't greet them, or won't be friends with them. It means they are not to be trusted as a fellow believer until they can prove by their response to the truth that they are a true believer.
 
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End the pathetic gossip and man up. You have a problem with a woman then tell her not everyone else while she's not here.

His buddy got banned for that.. by bringing up something he found on DC’s twitter account or something like that. You would think he would have learned.. Has anyone reported him yet? He should praise God he is still here, an dkeep his mouth quiet before it gets the best of him.
 
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he does not understand.

The issue is not thast we condone it, If we saw a brother doing it, we would try to disciple them.

The issue is he said they were not saved, He thus became judge jury and executioner.

He did it though, He proved his gospel is more than just believing it is also stopping certain sins, and I am sure there are a lot of works he believes Ione must do.

I am waiting for his group to come defend him saying we are mean to him, and say he is not preaching works. WHo can say that now? Whoever does would have lost all credibility, if they had any to begin with.
Fully agree.........
 
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He did not call their salvation in question, YOU DID.

Fess up dude..

A Pharisee puffed himself up and hit his chest thanking God he wears not like th sinner.

what do you think you are doing now? Yes, You are a Pharisee.
You are determined to find fault in me. There is nothing I can say that will change your mind. Just like how it was when they tried so hard to find fault in Jesus. He knew they were not interested in the truth about the matter. They were intent on destroying him. And so it is here, too. You are determined to find fault no matter what.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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All anybody has to do is read the thread I linked to and they will see for themselves.

And let's remember this only came up because of this:

Lol. I asked who was in this thread was condoning sin, he went outside this thread, and even outside the BDF, and now he is trying to justify his nonsense.

Ands remember, my question is response to something he said to someone IN THIS THREAD.
 
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I wonder if the two who are intent on finding fault in my will try to get me banned for answering eg's question:

Let's see.

You did not answer my question, I asked you who in this thread was trying to condone sin./ You were not even discussing something magnetya has said, I do not even think she has been in this thread for awhile.

Stiop trying to excuse your sin man, If you get banned, thats on you not us.