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blue_ladybug

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God created those demons, once known as angels, so yes it would be logical to think they believe in Him. Obviously NOT for their salvation, but as their Creator. :)


Oh Blue.

Do I have to tell you that there are two types of "believe"??
Even demons believe that Jesus exists.
But do they believe IN Jesus?

There is a belief of the mind,
and a belief of the heart.

It's understood what type of belief I meant...
 

blue_ladybug

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But I'm your favorite weirdo.. :eek:


Lol don't worry i am sure you both one of a kind "originals"



(little voice whispers, that's the nice way of saying "your weird,)

( but don't worry. I only make friends with weird folk. Lol)
 
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​I think people need to start spending time reading, re-reading, and re-reading again, other people's posts before they go and reply to them. Maybe then there would be no misunderstandings, misquotes, etc.. just saying. :)
THE SKY IS BLUE.....BLUE
 
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May you and yours
live long
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prosper

If and only if you work at it
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BillG

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Decontrol.. I won't last long? Wow lol what a baby talk. Is dying a proof of mistake? Last long heh. What a joke hearing it from someone who makes a living by the gun.
please don't diss a man who is/was willing to bare arms and die for their country in order to bring peace in time of war.

Would you do it?

Rather than diss them, thank them.

Its because of the brave boys willing to give up thier lives that we have the freedom to do what we are doing now.

That is the freedom to do things like posting on this forum, and not be controlled by states like North Korea.

I myself salute all You brave men who were/are willing to die for a good cause.
 
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I don't believe in freedom that comes through killing others. And you're a Christian?
 
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please don't diss a man who is/was willing to bare arms and die for their country in order to bring peace in time of war.

Would you do it?

Rather than diss them, thank them.

Its because of the brave boys willing to give up thier lives that we have the freedom to do what we are doing now.

That is the freedom to do things like posting on this forum, and not be controlled by states like North Korea.

I myself salute all You brave men who were/are willing to die for a good cause.
THANKS bro....and the cake taker seems to forget that God has consistently used men of war to work his will all through history...David being a prime example...God taught his hands how to war.....
 

BillG

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I don't believe in freedom that comes through killing others. And you're a Christian?
Yes I am a Christian.

God in the OT said
Numbers 31:1-3
Conquest of the Midianites
Then the Lord said to Moses, “On behalf of the people of Israel, take revenge on the Midianites for leading them into idolatry. After that, you will die and join your ancestors.”


So Moses said to the people, “Choose some men, and arm them to fight the Lord’s war of revenge against Midian.

Why did God say that?

Your thoughts please
 
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God didn't say that. They said it to justify their action. God never says take revenge or kill others.
 
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Yes I am a Christian.

God in the OT said
Numbers 31:1-3
Conquest of the Midianites
Then the Lord said to Moses, “On behalf of the people of Israel, take revenge on the Midianites for leading them into idolatry. After that, you will die and join your ancestors.”


So Moses said to the people, “Choose some men, and arm them to fight the Lord’s war of revenge against Midian.

Why did God say that?

Your thoughts please
Get ready for it to be mixed with a lemon twist......
 
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Bill meaning I don't take side because of race or location. I'm focused on God alone.
 
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God gave Samson his strength back to avenge himself upon the Philistines....man do these people even study the bible....
 
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God is the God of all not just Israel. He is impartial. Would you tell your good son to kill your disobedient son? Come on.
 
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I am well aware of that story and that's exactly what it is. Just a story but not literally true. Remember some of the ppl in the house could have been pious and just. Remember if it happens then then it must happen now too. They're the same like us. Have you ever heard of someone in real life that have power on their hair? Only movies.
 
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GOP

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JESUS CHRIST our LORD and SAVIOR said, "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in Heaven (Matthew 5:16)."
 
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who said I doubted your salvation. There you go reading in top things again.
Hey EG

Please don't tell me I read into things. I'm really good in English.

Here's the complete post where you wondered if I was saved.
Whether or not I'm saved is not of your concern...



Quote Originally Posted by FranC View Post

Hi EG
Its starting to sound like we want Jesus to do our "works"!

Let's remember that God always expected us to do things for Him...like enter Caanan for instance, and remove the indigenous people. He didnt come down and do this for Joshua.

Lets remember that Jesus is our atoning sacrifice. He came so that we could enter heaven, so that death and the sin nature could be conquered.

Not so He could do our works for us.
When Jesus said It Is Finished...He meant all the prophesies about Him have been fulfilled.

We always have to do our part.

Now, if you're saying we cant do anything to save ourselves...I'd have to ask this...

Were persons in the OT saved?
How?

So then WHY did Jesus have to die?


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Eternally Grateful answers:

Fran, It sounds like you think you can do Gods work for him. As in making payment for your own sin,. Good luck with that.

Remember Abraham believed God and God accounted it to him for righteousness. Abraham was saved,, Because of the cross. Just like you and I are.. (well, if you are saved. ).