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posthuman

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Ariel. Here's how the process is when u die. A small light appears in front of you then swallows you and you travel in a light speed until you come across the presence of the Glory then the Glory asks you if you've loved others like they way He's loved you and not your denomination or if you just believe in Christ or any manifestation. Oh by the way everyone gets to heaven which is getting closer to the Light that is God. No one remains in the dark. It's all for learning purposes.

chiese cosa vuole dire morire?

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we found an empty grave
 
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Ariel82

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Soooo.....

Your a Universalist mixed with new age semi Buddhist beliefs?

Okay...

Hope you have a nice day.

(smiles and slowly backs away)






.(psssst BillG did you borrow my red flag?)
 

BillG

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Amen, I know I will not be one of the ones who proudly boast of all the things they did in Gods name.. And all that..

Of course, Jesus will put them in their place. When he tells them he NEVER KNEW THEM.
I don't about anyone else but I have nothing to boast about.

My works within myself to appease God are filthy rags.

However when I placed my faith in Jesus it was for forgiveness of my sins. Then it is God who works in me to do the good works in me to glorify Jesus and not myself.

When you did this for another you did it for me
 
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Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Jesus did not have anything against the works they did,for they were good works,but He was against them for they were workers of iniquity,they held unto sin thinking that they were alright with God.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Those that name the name of Christ has to depart from iniquity.They cannot hold unto to sin,and if they do they better get rid of it before they depart this earth.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

They do not come to the truth that sin affects their relationship with God,and are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.

1Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

1Jn 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

1Ti 6:2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.
1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
1Ti 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

There are millions of people that claim Jesus as Lord that are in to worldliness,and spending money on their wants,and not only their needs,and do not help the poor and needy.They are not right under those circumstances.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Those that do not want to sin,and hate sin,can abstain from sin by the Spirit,for they have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts,and if they do sin they will get rid of it,and not hold unto it,and keep going in the Spirit.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

When people initially claimed Jesus as Lord did they make an effort to cease from sin.
 
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Ariel82

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Re: Why dont yall spot Satans tricks to get you to fight?

Then kindly tell them to actually read what we are saying, And stop saying we say things we never said.

Or getting mad when we try to show them what we believe
When I can I try and rephrase what you are saying, and have done exactly what you asked: for folks to re-read their post and others responses.

I feel like I am constantly saying "I don't think that is what he/she meant by their post. Perhaps you should read it again"

"I don't think he is calling you unsaved, he just misread what you believe and is posting in reaction to that."

Folks often tell me that I am wrong and they are right and how justified they are for being mean and nasty to each other.

It gets tiring to watch the fighting sometimes so I ignore the threads folks are fighting in when my life gets busy and I just want love and encouragement.

Does that make me blind?
 

Desertsrose

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Hi Blue,

If we go by what you said above, we'd almost be saying that God created Satan. Didn't He know that Lucifer would fall?
God knows the future, right?

Also, there are Christians who don't believe satan exists.
There are Christians who don't believe hell exists.
There are Christians who believe everyone will be saved. (Universalism)
There are Christians who believe a person will go to hell but only for an instant and then disappear. (Annihalism)

These are mistakes, for sure. But we cannot say that these people are not Christian or born again.

All one needs to be a Christian is:

Belief in the Trinity
That Jesus is the Christ
And the Son of God
That He died for our sins
That He was resurrected

That's it.

Hi Fran,

That's not quite right, but almost. :) Your list of believers can include Satan and demons because they believe those things.

Salvation is by God's grace through faith. Faith and belief can be very different. Someone can say they believe your list, but it takes more than a simple affirmation to those things you've listed.


 
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Well first of all Paul was the one that justified slavery. I don't knowing you've read his writings. But he's said many contradictory things in the Bible. Paul was more of a politician that a spiritual agent. That's why James (christs brother), Peter and many more were against Paul and his teachings. Remember this is the guy that said women can't serve in the ministry. From
The moment he walked into the Bible he's been a source of conflict. Have you ever heard of one being chosen after killing the first Martyr of that same religion? It'd be like pissing on Stephens(1st christian martyr) grave. Luke was one of his disciples and the author of Acts, where Paul's holyspirt claim comes from, though he was not around for that event.
Paul lived in an era when slavery was what people did. Some were called slaves and might even have been happy to be slaves or they would have died from hunger.

Paul is saying that whatever we do, we are to do it to God and to do it well.

I'm attaching a link to this idea.
You should try to undersand that slavery was acceptable in those days. Paul had no thought that it might one day end.

What the New Testament says about slavery
 
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Posthuman I did all my analysis from many angles. And yes I'm aware of his 14 books out of the 27. And what's really interesting is Judaism and Islam both confirmed my hypothesis of Paul. I know it must be a big shock to a lot considering he's like the second biggest figure in the New Testament which by itself should be one of the tell tell signs of his power greed. Don't forget he is one of the people that killed Stephen. He was a powerful man then since he was addressing both the Jews and the romans in their tongue. So powerful that he in his own volition became the second biggest figure in the Book. check this ok? I have no personal problem with Paul. But it's just so clear for those who read his writings with an open eye. Why don't i have a problem with Peter?Mathew? John ...? But no. So just check it.
 
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Hi Fran,

That's not quite right, but almost. :) Your list of believers can include Satan and demons because they believe those things.

Salvation is by God's grace through faith. Faith and belief can be very different. Someone can say they believe your list, but it takes more than a simple affirmation to those things you've listed.


Oh Blue.

Do I have to tell you that there are two types of "believe"??
Even demons believe that Jesus exists.
But do they believe IN Jesus?

There is a belief of the mind,
and a belief of the heart.

It's understood what type of belief I meant...
 
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Banned? Really? Wow. How am I gonna live life banned from this site? Seriously?? Lol is this a Christian discussion room or the funny room? Come on guys. I think we're a little too old for that.
Yeah, you can get banned. I have had 5 infraction punishment points for "insensetive language" when all I did was warn some new member that there are abusive members on this site (only I worded it the wrong way). So yeah, you must be careful, like if I get punished for something as small as that. Then you can imagine how the moderators of this site are.
 
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Ariel82

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NO NO NO!!!
He can't copy me!!!
LOL
Lol don't worry i am sure you both one of a kind "originals"



(little voice whispers, that's the nice way of saying "your weird,)

( but don't worry. I only make friends with weird folk. Lol)
 

BillG

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Soooo.....

Your a Universalist mixed with new age semi Buddhist beliefs?

Okay...

Hope you have a nice day.

(smiles and slowly backs away)






.(psssst BillG did you borrow my red flag?)
shsh don't tell anyone I nicked your red flag.
 
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Ariel82

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The mods are all volunteers and we are blessed to have them.

They get rid of trolls and wolves.

sheep with scrape, get to stick around for a bit.

Personally I believe some quarantine system is needed because the infection seems contagious.
 

BillG

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The mods are all volunteers and we are blessed to have them.

They get rid of trolls and wolves.

sheep with scrape, get to stick around for a bit.

Personally I believe some quarantine system is needed because the infection seems contagious.
Yes and we thank the mods for the time and effort you give up. You do a great job
 

blue_ladybug

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Ummm, I'm not DesertsRose.. :) You responded to her, but used my name.. lol


Oh Blue.

Do I have to tell you that there are two types of "believe"??
Even demons believe that Jesus exists.
But do they believe IN Jesus?

There is a belief of the mind,
and a belief of the heart.

It's understood what type of belief I meant...
 
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The mods are all volunteers and we are blessed to have them.

They get rid of trolls and wolves.

sheep with scrape, get to stick around for a bit.

Personally I believe some quarantine system is needed because the infection seems contagious.
Not all trolls, this clown HolySun is still here and from his posts you cannot deny. He is a troll.
 
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Decontrol.. I won't last long? Wow lol what a baby talk. Is dying a proof of mistake? Last long heh. What a joke hearing it from someone who makes a living by the gun.

The gun...yeah right....nice try but no ceeeegar.........I was a Marine in the 80's and now a retired Machinist 5 years ago at 45...so.......