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Jan 25, 2018
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I thought it might be helpful to repeat the word of God, so what is being talked about
is front and center.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Salvation - repentance, faith, works - founded on purity

Lose any part of the three and ones salvation goes.

Repentance - to abide in wilfull rebellion and sin. Heb 10:26-27
faith - to cease to trust God saves you and the cross forgives you. Hebrews 11:6
works - cease to exercise love flowing through ones life. James 2:26

Repentance
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Heb 10:26-27
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? ......you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Faith
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. Heb 11:6
We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first. Heb 3:14

Works
As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead James 2:26
Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing. 1 Peter 3:9

Eternity is pure, without sin, holy, without blemish. What we call blemish and what God calls
blemish is different. We pick at the smallest details, the right way to be polite or show someone
we are together, or not be condemning, or not appreciating enough, or upsetting someone by
being too firm and not recognise our sinful allegiance to wealth, power, sexual desire, selfish
indulgences, holidays we just cannot go without, recognition of our achievements, what we
deserve.

We are happy to be violent within, a raging inferno, lusting after any opportunity that comes along,
wanting that bigger house, car, position, yet outside we want to be seen as being religious, following
Jesus, getting close to others and helping them, in their poor state of spiritual distress.

Little wonder purity is rejected or intimacy and closeness, it would result in a explosion with many injuries.

But this is what Jesus saw in the pharisees. He saw much that was good, but without taming the heart
and being gentle within, there is no real hope of showing true love without.

So this is not talking about salvation?

Really?? Your gonna keep playing that game?

No one is falling for it.. And no one is going to fall for your silly childish games either and do something that will get themselves banned, So you can give that up.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I thought it might be helpful to repeat the word of God, so what is being talked about
is front and center.

The word of God says we have to work to maintain salvation? Where? (And rem,ember, you already said you were not talking about salvation. Are you going to keep up that nonsense also?)
 
Jan 25, 2018
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Explain what? Your the one who can not answer the question posed to you earlier.. You explain why.
So many questions, which one are you seeking an answer to?
I cannot promise I will be able to answer your difficult questions or maybe your
simple ones which have a yes or no answer.

And without knowing what you are referring to, I cannot explain, I mean this is only
fair, to know what you are trying to talk about.

I know children who ask the question, why to their parents. It actually goes on
forever, until the parent says, because I said so. Some answers are like that,
we have to find our own answers which we are happy with.
 

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So many questions, which one are you seeking an answer to?
I cannot promise I will be able to answer your difficult questions or maybe your
simple ones which have a yes or no answer.

And without knowing what you are referring to, I cannot explain, I mean this is only
fair, to know what you are trying to talk about.

I know children who ask the question, why to their parents. It actually goes on
forever, until the parent says, because I said so. Some answers are like that,
we have to find our own answers which we are happy with.
if you think you do not sin, here is your answer- your wrong.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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So many questions, which one are you seeking an answer to?
I cannot promise I will be able to answer your difficult questions or maybe your
simple ones which have a yes or no answer.

And without knowing what you are referring to, I cannot explain, I mean this is only
fair, to know what you are trying to talk about.

I know children who ask the question, why to their parents. It actually goes on
forever, until the parent says, because I said so. Some answers are like that,
we have to find our own answers which we are happy with.

There you go mocking yourself again, You know exactly what question I am asking.

But here, I will show you, and you will continue to refuse. To answer.

You said,

:)
For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.
1 Thessalonians 4:7

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
matt 5:8

Set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity.

1 Timothy 4:12

Treat younger men as brothers, older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.
1 Timothy 5:1-2

To those who reject purity, you reject the gospel and claim being impure is acceptable to God.

For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a man is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient.
Therefore do not be partners with them.
Ephesians 5:5-7

The testimony of scripture testifies against those who deceive with compromise about purity.
These are not my ideas, but Gods revelation.
I responded


what does this have to do with salvation? With eternal life? With getting to heaven?
You have had all afternoon to think about it. DO youhave an answer yet?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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if you think you do not sin, here is your answer- your wrong.
Did he say this? I would like to see where he said he believes he is sinless. If he has, It is worse than I thought.
 
Jan 25, 2018
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The word of God says we have to work to maintain salvation? Where? (And rem,ember, you already said you were not talking about salvation. Are you going to keep up that nonsense also?)
I really have nothing to say to you, your words just say enough about what your
intentions and approach are. So I leave it at that.
 
Jan 25, 2018
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There comes a point, when teeth and knives come out to play.
So, let me just say, goodbye for now.
 
Jan 25, 2018
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Salvation - repentance, faith, works - founded on purity

Lose any part of the three and ones salvation goes.

Repentance - to abide in wilfull rebellion and sin. Heb 10:26-27
faith - to cease to trust God saves you and the cross forgives you. Hebrews 11:6
works - cease to exercise love flowing through ones life. James 2:26

Repentance
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Heb 10:26-27
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? ......you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Faith
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. Heb 11:6
We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first. Heb 3:14

Works
As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead James 2:26
Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing. 1 Peter 3:9

Eternity is pure, without sin, holy, without blemish. What we call blemish and what God calls
blemish is different. We pick at the smallest details, the right way to be polite or show someone
we are together, or not be condemning, or not appreciating enough, or upsetting someone by
being too firm and not recognise our sinful allegiance to wealth, power, sexual desire, selfish
indulgences, holidays we just cannot go without, recognition of our achievements, what we
deserve.

We are happy to be violent within, a raging inferno, lusting after any opportunity that comes along,
wanting that bigger house, car, position, yet outside we want to be seen as being religious, following
Jesus, getting close to others and helping them, in their poor state of spiritual distress.

Little wonder purity is rejected or intimacy and closeness, it would result in a explosion with many injuries.

But this is what Jesus saw in the pharisees. He saw much that was good, but without taming the heart
and being gentle within, there is no real hope of showing true love without.
 
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He is like an adult who can’t admit they’re wrong and instead goes round and round with excuses to save himself from embarassment.

A person whose confidence is in Christ won’t care what people think when he knows it’s the truth of the gospel that he’s defending.

There you go mocking yourself again, You know exactly what question I am asking.

But here, I will show you, and you will continue to refuse. To answer.

You said,



I responded



You have had all afternoon to think about it. DO youhave an answer yet?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I really have nothing to say to you, your words just say enough about what your
intentions and approach are. So I leave it at that.

See, He had no intention of answering anyone’s question. He thinks he is right, and when anyone disagrees with them, and question him, he just runs

I did not expect you to answer, You. Never do, it is the same old game with you. You mock, and you slander, then when it comes to the nitty gritty, you deny, blame shift and run.

 
Jan 25, 2018
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What I like about what I have written is it is simple.
Not that you would think this based on what some are trying to say.

What I have noticed about the spirit of sharing, is how meaningless are the statements,
and no attempt to actually answer the points from scripture.

Must be because they are actually incapable of answering it, which speaks volumes.
What better advertising for the power of the Word of God, Jesus our Lord.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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You really think people desiring to follow Jesus are cursed and their sharing is cursed?
did i say that?


No.

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.




you go ahead and keep making false accusations

i never cursed anyone or anything

i said false preachers are cursed

i never said believers

i said false preachers (who pervert the gospel of Christ)

i never said scripture

i said false gospel



and when i said currently functioning as a wolf
i implied they too can come to the truth by "currently"


if you are asking if i think

"You really think people desiring to follow Jesus are cursed and their sharing is cursed"

1944. epikataratos ►
Strong's Concordance
epikataratos: accursed
Original Word: ἐπικατάρατος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: epikataratos
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-kat-ar'-at-os)
Short Definition: accursed
Definition: on whom a curse has been invoked, accursed, doomed to destruction.

^^^^^^^

if these are sheep in error
they will hear Gods call
repent from their false gospel

and come to the true gospel of Christ

if these functioning as wolves

stay wolves and deny the true gospel

they are cursed "accursed"

again

incase you missed it


8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed

not sure if you read this light


you bailed after you falsely accused me a bunch of times
 
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eternally-gratefull

Guest
There comes a point, when teeth and knives come out to play.
So, let me just say, goodbye for now.
There comes a time when you are forced to put up or shut up as they say.

When are you going to put up? And stop playing your games? You are fooling no one but yourself.
 
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eternally-gratefull

Guest
Salvation - repentance, faith, works - founded on purity

Lose any part of the three and ones salvation goes.

Repentance - to abide in wilfull rebellion and sin. Heb 10:26-27
faith - to cease to trust God saves you and the cross forgives you. Hebrews 11:6
works - cease to exercise love flowing through ones life. James 2:26

Repentance
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Heb 10:26-27
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? ......you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Faith
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. Heb 11:6
We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first. Heb 3:14

Works
As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead James 2:26
Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing. 1 Peter 3:9

Eternity is pure, without sin, holy, without blemish. What we call blemish and what God calls
blemish is different. We pick at the smallest details, the right way to be polite or show someone
we are together, or not be condemning, or not appreciating enough, or upsetting someone by
being too firm and not recognise our sinful allegiance to wealth, power, sexual desire, selfish
indulgences, holidays we just cannot go without, recognition of our achievements, what we
deserve.

We are happy to be violent within, a raging inferno, lusting after any opportunity that comes along,
wanting that bigger house, car, position, yet outside we want to be seen as being religious, following
Jesus, getting close to others and helping them, in their poor state of spiritual distress.

Little wonder purity is rejected or intimacy and closeness, it would result in a explosion with many injuries.

But this is what Jesus saw in the pharisees. He saw much that was good, but without taming the heart
and being gentle within, there is no real hope of showing true love without.
Remember people. He said earlier he is not talking aboutsalvation, He is talking about having communion with god.. or Bering pure in heart or. Wait, DOes anyone know what this person is talking about?

We tried to get him to say by asking question as any reasonable person would do. But he runs away and just mocks those who question him as if they had the gull to even dare question the mighty one.
 
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eternally-gratefull

Guest
He is like an adult who can’t admit they’re wrong and instead goes round and round with excuses to save himself from embarassment.

A person whose confidence is in Christ won’t care what people think when he knows it’s the truth of the gospel that he’s defending.
If only he could realise this, If your confidence is in christ, there is not an answer anyone can ask you will nto answer. Because your confidence and your truth is on solid ground, When you run, There is an issue,, And if you can not sewer this issue, You have more problems than people can help you with.
 
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eternally-gratefull

Guest
What I like about what I have written is it is simple.
Not that you would think this based on what some are trying to say.

What I have noticed about the spirit of sharing, is how meaningless are the statements,
and no attempt to actually answer the points from scripture.

Must be because they are actually incapable of answering it, which speaks volumes.
What better advertising for the power of the Word of God, Jesus our Lord.
If they are so simple as you claim, then respond to people who are asking questions about what you said, and stop beating around the bush as if these questions are not valid.

Jesus answered all questions, no matter how silly they may sound, because he considered all people important. And wanted to let no one get away misunderstanding the truth.
 
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eternally-gratefull

Guest
not sure if you read this light


you bailed after you falsely accused me a bunch of times
He wont answer you, just continue to blame shift, after a few years, it has been his modus operendi, I would not expect him to change.
 
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eternally-gratefull

Guest
He is like an adult who can’t admit they’re wrong and instead goes round and round with excuses to save himself from embarassment.

A person whose confidence is in Christ won’t care what people think when he knows it’s the truth of the gospel that he’s defending.
good to see you back in the trenches standing for truth sis.