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BillG

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That's utterly ridiculous. We believe by the power that raised Christ from the dead; Ephesians 1:19. No man has this power, it is external and from the Father.

Faith comes from Christ, Acts 3:16; Romans 10:17; 1 Timothy 1:14; Philippians 1:29. It doesn't come from within man.
Thats why Jesus had to go back to the Father so that the Holy Spirit must come.

Why must he come, to convict the world it's sin and that sin is 'Unbelief in him'
 

preacher4truth

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Thats why Jesus had to go back to the Father so that the Holy Spirit must come.

Why must he come, to convict the world it's sin and that sin is 'Unbelief in him'
Exactly. I see you are either in Scotland or you just like the flag. But I take it you're a Scot. My family has roots in Scotland btw.
 

BillG

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Exactly. I see you are either in Scotland or you just like the flag. But I take it you're a Scot. My family has roots in Scotland btw.
Scooootish through and through.

Born in the gorbals.

Lived in England most of my life.

Whats your family roots?
 

Roughsoul1991

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That's utterly ridiculous. We believe by the power that raised Christ from the dead; Ephesians 1:19. No man has this power, it is external and from the Father.

Faith comes from Christ, Acts 3:16; Romans 10:17; 1 Timothy 1:14; Philippians 1:29. It doesn't come from within man.
We was created to believe or not believe. So really yes everything in our existence is from God. But God allows free will to use faith or not. Otherwise once heard the word we would all be forced compelled to believe.
 

BillG

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God even loves us Scottish people.
 

rily51jean

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Well, according to 1 John 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."

John 3:16-21 * Vs. 18 "He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Matt. 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Vs. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Vs. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Jesus is referring to the 10 Commandments from Exodus 20:1-17. In the Old Testament, there were commandments, ordinances and statutes. Jesus nailed the ordinances, and rituals pertaining to animal sacrifices for sin to the cross, as He
became our Passover (1 Cor. 5:7-8). But the 10 commandments we are still obligated to obey, but if we goof up, and we turn to Christ in repentance, and confess our sins, we have forgiveness through His blood which He shed on the cross.

How can anybody say that Jesus abolished the 10 commandments, when He was crucified on the cross. And there are people that teach that! Well, then are they saying it's ok to steal, or ok to commit adultery, or murder? Not!! The 10 Commandments keep you out of trouble, and are necessary for an orderly and peaceful society.
 
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You are not a universalist in the least :)

Though I would not say I have seen everything you have ever written :D

It is still clear to anyone who has any idea at all about what you espouse and
believe of Scripture, that universalism is not in there in any way, shape, or form :)
you shouldnt worship false idols..
 

preacher4truth

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Isn't it funny how plain Scripture is? Not all men have faith (2 Thessalonians 3:2) becomes twisted into "it means they haven't exercised it" or to quote the foolishness "because they chose not to use the faith they have."

Um...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's awfully difficult to exercise something one does not possess, right?

But it is ANYTHING GOES instead of the Biblical belief in God's Sovereign Election. They'll LET (imagine how gracious they are for doing this - God must be grateful ;)) God be Sovereign in creation, Sovereign in power, in authority, in some decrees, over angels and demons, but over salvation? That's a no-no.
 
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Well, according to 1 John 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."

John 3:16-21 * Vs. 18 "He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Matt. 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Vs. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Vs. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Jesus is referring to the 10 Commandments from Exodus 20:1-17. In the Old Testament, there were commandments, ordinances and statutes. Jesus nailed the ordinances, and rituals pertaining to animal sacrifices for sin to the cross, as He
became our Passover (1 Cor. 5:7-8). But the 10 commandments we are still obligated to obey, but if we goof up, and we turn to Christ in repentance, and confess our sins, we have forgiveness through His blood which He shed on the cross.

How can anybody say that Jesus abolished the 10 commandments, when He was crucified on the cross. And there are people that teach that! Well, then are they saying it's ok to steal, or ok to commit adultery, or murder? Not!! The 10 Commandments keep you out of trouble, and are necessary for an orderly and peaceful society.
Romans 13.8-10:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
 
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Thats why Jesus had to go back to the Father so that the Holy Spirit must come.

Why must he come, to convict the world it's sin and that sin is 'Unbelief in him'
II hardlyy thing christs comes to convict at all rather he comes in peace.
 

preacher4truth

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We was created to believe or not believe. So really yes everything in our existence is from God. But God allows free will to use faith or not. Otherwise once heard the word we would all be forced compelled to believe.
Keep trying. Actually go study, you're way off track like almost everywhere int eh things you say.

By the way, no one who is lost is "free" in their will; John 8:35.

Advice? Study more, type less.
 

BillG

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Romans 13.8-10:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
He lines up, he shots, he scores.
 
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Jimbo, a like for a Scotsman. What's come over you?
Do you need to sit down or do you need to uncross your fingers?
lol nooo atlas i just need to think of the scotish lass whom i fell in love with..
 
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believing in a saviour , is not a religion

6 he says:
"It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob
and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations,
that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."Isaiah 49: The Servant of the LORD

my salvation ,will go out, not a jewish religion and law, will go out. etc