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VCO

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Can you an ordinary man command the army of angels in Heaven?

What is the difference between a drug dealer on the street and the president of the United States?

Do you EVER ask any questions that Really Matter?
 

posthuman

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this is a traditional Hindi worship song appropriated by Christians to glorify Christ,

the chorus means 'victory to God, victory to God, the God-man, the God-man'

just wanted to share the joy with you who believe :)

 

VCO

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Difference between sinless and blameless. Only one man can claim to be sinless: Jesus Christ

Jesus was 100 percent man and 100 percent God.

How is this possible?

Can you be 100 percent a Son and 100 percent a Father at the same time?

Christianity is built upon the concept that God the Son , the Word came down from Heaven and became a man and died for us.

He could have called all the armies of angels to save him from the Cross but choose instead to save us through the Cross.


WOW, you can make PERFECT Sense, when you want to. Keep it up!


The difference be US and Jesus Christ, is simple:

We have a Human Spirit that was CREATED by the CREATOR.

JESUS CHRIST also has a Spirit within Him, BUT that Spirit is the CREATOR.


2 Corinthians 5:19 (ASV)
19 to wit, that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not reckoning unto them their trespasses, and having committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 

VCO

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Me too, I get up when it is 5:00 A.M. in Hawaii.

BUT, I do live in Nebraska, so it is 9:00 A.M. here.

But I do not go to bed until it is after 1:00 A.M.


Last night I turned the lights off in my bedroom at 1:23 A.M.

However, there have been a few nights it was Closer to 4:00 A.M., but then I sleep in till at least 10:00 A.M.


Am I a Morning Person? Not in the least.
 
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Ariel82

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Fascinating how Mainstream Christian Religions, as does Islam, twist God's Word to create their own religion. Not that we were not warned of this over and over.

I found your judgment of Abraham's obedience fascinating. By your logic, Abraham was a self righteous legalist, "Earning" His friendship with God by self righteous obedience to Him and His Laws, While Eve, listening to the Serpent, Became the perfect Christian where "grace" could abound. Certainly Eve's path is the Broader path, and easier than Abrahams to follow, yet the Word of God in which you claim Faith, said Abraham was blessed "BECAUSE" of His Self Righteous obedience to God.
Do you ever get tired of your lies and delusions?

You are still full of it because that is not what I said or believe.

I stopped reading after the party quoted. I try my best to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I don't claim you as a brother (which you are probably glad of) and have now blocked you (because I don't have time to read your venom or lies)

However you can continue your burning of a strawman of your own creation or you could actually stop being a hypocrite and practice what you preach and OBEY what God says about true heavenly wisdom.

Doubt it will happen since attacking me and making false claims about my beliefs are more your style
 
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Ariel82

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Again Abraham and David are pillars of the faith because they recognized they were sinners in need of a savior.

Eve looked to Can to be her savior as evident by her naming him Cain. Can you imagine the despair when she learned that Cain killed Able?

Able not Cain was called a prophet; I wonder how many people actually know WHY?
 
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Ariel82

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Our spirits are eternal and cannot die.this bodies are called temporary tents and tenples of God because the holy Spirit dwells within us....these bodies will die because of Adam's sin.

However we will be resurrected when Jesus comes again and have New bodies that will never age, grow sick or die

How many people are scared of death?

Jesus was not scared to allow his human body to die, because He knew He would raise again in three days.

Do we KNOW we will raise again when Jesus calls us, even if these human bodies die?
 
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Ariel82

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The prez is rich and the drug dealer isn't.. lol
Well the mob boss is rich too... truthfully my opinion of our current president steadily drops daily.

Who do you think is richer Jesus or Satan?

Jesus during his time on Earth was homeless, had no money (had Peter pull a coin out of the mouth of a fish) yet spiritually Jesus was King of Kings

Yet we know most of the world would choose Satan and worldly treasures and pleasures over Jesus and His Cross.

How many would choose to be millionaire versus being beaten and thrown into prison as Paul was or as many of God's missionaries are still being killed for spreading the gospel today.

I met the daughter of one woman who chose to stay and keep witnessing to them about Christ even after they slaughtered her husband and two of his associates. She told me about growing up in mud huts, no running water much less tv or internet.
 

Studyman

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Our spirits are eternal and cannot die.this bodies are called temporary tents and tenples of God because the holy Spirit dwells within us....these bodies will die because of Adam's sin.

However we will be resurrected when Jesus comes again and have New bodies that will never age, grow sick or die

How many people are scared of death?

Jesus was not scared to allow his human body to die, because He knew He would raise again in three days.

Do we KNOW we will raise again when Jesus calls us, even if these human bodies die?
Luke 22:
41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,
42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

Of course He was scared, He was a human.

My problem with your religion has always been your lack of interest in what the whole Bible teaches. You preach you are born immortal, the Bible says immortality is a gift we do not yet have. You preach Jesus wasn't scared. But the Bible teaches He was very scared. You preach God didn't bless Abraham because Abraham obeyed Him. Yet the Bible says his obedience was the reason he was blessed. Not the justification "works of the Law" required of the Levite Priests, but the Laws, statute's, and ordinances of God.

You preach all these things which are not Biblically true, then work to silence anyone who would point this out to you. Just as those mainstream Preachers of Christ's time did.

Never thinking about what if the Bible is true and it is the religions of the world which the Christ warned of whose doctrines are untrue..

I'm not sorry I point these things out, I'm sorry that so many trust their religion and their pastors more that the Word of God.
 
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Do you ever get tired of your lies and delusions?

You are still full of it because that is not what I said or believe.

I stopped reading after the party quoted. I try my best to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I don't claim you as a brother (which you are probably glad of) and have now blocked you (because I don't have time to read your venom or lies)

However you can continue your burning of a strawman of your own creation or you could actually stop being a hypocrite and practice what you preach and OBEY what God says about true heavenly wisdom.

Doubt it will happen since attacking me and making false claims about my beliefs are more your style
Most ignore his blather......just another religionist like Cain........too many errors to even address........
 
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theanointedsinner

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Yep I stomp into his presence and then jump on His lap and telling him about my day through prayer alot.

That's what good dad's do, give you a hug and tell you that you are loved, and God is the best Heavenly Father.

It's sad that many people don't believe that and approach with fear and guilty consciences like the prodigal son. However like the father in the story, God will throw a party for every child who turns their back on the world and return home to Him.
1 John 5:13 "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him."
 
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theanointedsinner

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@Ariel82 let E = empathy part of humans
and s = sociopathic part of humans

let's assume that empathy is a dominant trait, while sociopathy is a recessive trait that still exist (to be more optimistic)
EE would be super empathetic
ss would be socipathic
Es would be normal

here's the punnet square (and I think the punnet square is all I know about biology)
punnet square for empathy and sociopathy.png
 
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Ariel82

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@Ariel82 let E = empathy part of humans
and s = sociopathic part of humans

let's assume that empathy is a dominant trait, while sociopathy is a recessive trait that still exist (to be more optimistic)
EE would be super empathetic
ss would be socipathic
Es would be normal

here's the punnet square (and I think the punnet square is all I know about biology)
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Lol nice try. You did excellent on the punnet square.

However S is a dominant trait and e is recessive, until God places A (for Agape love) into the genetic spiritual makeup of His born again children.

Thus the majority of humanity is sociopathic with a few carriers of empathy and even fewer naturally empthatic people. Most learn from their caretakers or peers to share their toys and how to see others perceptive or care about their feelings