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blue_ladybug

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Now I need a Whopper, onion rings and a strawberry shake with whipped cream topped with a cherry.

BK came out with this wrapper, special for gay pride appreciation week.. :rolleyes: This is enough to convince me NEVER to eat at BK..

 

GodsGrace101

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AGAIN FRAN you lie......this has been covered numerous times........and every time you say I post no scripture you lose your salvation according to your dogma.....
You don't know "MY" dogma and never will.
And I don't have a dogma...I follow the teaching of bible-believing churches.
Some make up their own rules of dogma.....
And never back them up with scripture.

If you've noticed...
others here have asked you for scripture...not only myself.
Isn't it easier to post it rather than to argue about it?
Can't you use the bible to b ack up your statements?
Maybe not.
 

calibob

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I believe in free will and I am not arguing against OSAS but rather question can a saved person intentionally discard or throw away their salvation on the here and now? like fame and fortune of false gospels. Fame and fortunes most of all. Pride like Satan and feeling like a king for a while. The kind that treats salvation like a free get outa hell free card?
 

GodsGrace101

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if you are talking to me with the above you must be dense....I will not need to beg her for anything.....
We are not to rely on our conscience...
unless it was trained by the word of God.


Ephesians 4:32
Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.


Matthew 6:14-15
For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions
 

blue_ladybug

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Thanks for bringing this up to my attention!
BOYCOTTING BURGER KING FROM THIS POINT ON!
It's bad enough they had to pervert God's rainbow. Now they're even perverting our emojis. Even my CAT emojis.. :mad:

AND now, they're trying to even pervert the food we eat. Though BK and Mickey D's are not food, they're processed crap with pink slime and ammonia in their burgers..
 

GodsGrace101

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Dear God's Grace, the dead branches are burned dosent mean the soul is lost, they will be saved but as through fire, the dead branches are dead works or branches not bearing fruit, you know in the fall the vine dresser is ruthless with the vine and strangely enough the root is practically all that is left, if we had been relying on our works to bring someone closer to the light and there is no fruit it goes through the fire but you shall not be burned, and yes your safe in his hands as I'm told and even by those with no works, no branches, where can the fruit be. But the good thing about the vine, branches keep growing so fast and that's why it has to be pruned so that were nor all branches no fruit. fruit is in time alone in prayer.
Saved but as through fire...
You're thinking of 1 Corinthians 3:4-15

Here it is:

4For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not mere men?
5What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one.
6I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth.
7So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes the growth.
8Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.
9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.


10According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it.
11For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
13each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work.
14If any man’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward.
15If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

Here are some questions:

1. Who is this scripture speaking about?
2. Who is building upon the foundation laid by Jesus?
3. Is it the same persons this scripture is speaking about?
4. Whose works will be tested?
5. What will be received for the works of gold, silver and precious stones?
6. What will happen to the WORKS of hay and straw?
7. What exactly are those works?


IOW, Who is the scripture about
and What were their works?

This scripture is not speaking about us believers...
but about those who teach us.
 

stillness

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Walk trough the valley
You are going to be forgiven, I hear it in my heart, that means you will learn to forgive. I will not come here anymore, I was told I need to let it Go. As you know dead works don't help, no one can help you forgive.
 

GodsGrace101

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You are going to be forgiven, I hear it in my heart, that means you will learn to forgive. I will not come here anymore, I was told I need to let it Go. As you know dead works don't help, no one can help you forgive.
He's already forgiven, not forgotten yet...but that will come.
 

Hevosmies

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It's bad enough they had to pervert God's rainbow. Now they're even perverting our emojis. Even my CAT emojis.. :mad:

AND now, they're trying to even pervert the food we eat. Though BK and Mickey D's are not food, they're processed crap with pink slime and ammonia in their burgers..
is mcdonalds doing that too? Another one to boycott!
 

blue_ladybug

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is mcdonalds doing that too? Another one to boycott!
Does this answer your question?? And they did this to the kids HAPPY MEAL!! And called it the "super-happy meal".. Apparently this was McD's response to BK's gay pride whopper.. I am absolutely horrified that they did this to a CHILDREN'S meal.. :eek::eek::mad:(n)(n)

 
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UnderGrace

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You don't know "MY" dogma and never will.
And I don't have a dogma...I follow the teaching of bible-believing churches.
Some make up their own rules of dogma.....
And never back them up with scripture.

If you've noticed...
others here have asked you for scripture...not only myself.
Isn't it easier to post it rather than to argue about it?
Can't you use the bible to b ack up your statements?
Maybe not.
It makes NO difference, VCO, MailmanDan,TruthTalk, DCon, myself, Rosemary, Stones, gb9, EG etc. etc., all post scriptures.

The truth is right there in the scripture but you cannot bring yourself to admit to it.... then you even deny that it was presented.:rolleyes:
 

blue_ladybug

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It makes NO difference, VCO, MailmanDan,TruthTalk, DCon, myself, Rosemary, Stones, gb9, EG etc. etc., all post scriptures.

The truth is right there in the scripture but you cannot bring yourself to admit to it.... then you even deny that it was presented.:rolleyes:

Keep in mind, without book, chapter and verse, she doesn't count it as scripture...
 

GodsGrace101

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It makes NO difference, VCO, MailmanDan,TruthTalk, DCon, myself, Rosemary, Stones, gb9, EG etc. etc., all post scriptures.

The truth is right there in the scripture but you cannot bring yourself to admit to it.... then you even deny that it was presented.:rolleyes:
I never said everyone does not post scripture.
Just one person does not and so his statements are opinions and not the word of God.

Please try to read along....
 

blue_ladybug

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Jesus never cited book, chapter and verse when HE quoted scripture. Scripture IS still scripture, even if book chapter and verse are not given..
 

GodsGrace101

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Jesus never cited book, chapter and verse when HE quoted scripture. Scripture IS still scripture, even if book chapter and verse are not given..
Jesus wasn't stating an opinion.

He spoke like one with authority.
Is that scripture?
How do you know?
Why was it said?
Where and to whom was it said?
Who said it?

Or did I just make that up?
Answer within the next 30 seconds....