For goodness sakes H,
You swing back and forth more than a tiny branch on a big tree!
You know very well you're on the other side...but here it goes...
I THINK you're referring to 1 John 5:13 (this is why it would be nice to post scripture)
1 John 5:13
13These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.
We can be secure IN JESUS. I said I believe in Eternal Security. Eternal Security has conditions that must be met.
Notice in 1 John 5:13 John says that he's writing so we can know we have eternal life...
What is the condition? John says what it is:
"I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God".......
IF we believe in the name of God,,,AT THAT MOMENT OF TIME IN OUR LIVES....
We can be morally secure in our salvation.
But what if we STOP believing in Jesus?
If believing is a condition...and we stop believing,,,are we still saved?
You have to make up your mind about becoming lost again after salvation.
Is it possible or not?
You swing back and forth more than a tiny branch on a big tree!
You know very well you're on the other side...but here it goes...
I THINK you're referring to 1 John 5:13 (this is why it would be nice to post scripture)
1 John 5:13
13These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.
We can be secure IN JESUS. I said I believe in Eternal Security. Eternal Security has conditions that must be met.
Notice in 1 John 5:13 John says that he's writing so we can know we have eternal life...
What is the condition? John says what it is:
"I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God".......
IF we believe in the name of God,,,AT THAT MOMENT OF TIME IN OUR LIVES....
We can be morally secure in our salvation.
But what if we STOP believing in Jesus?
If believing is a condition...and we stop believing,,,are we still saved?
You have to make up your mind about becoming lost again after salvation.
Is it possible or not?
Therefore the idea that it can 'stop' is just nonsensical.
But i wanna take a look at what you said: Eternal life is something we get afteer we die. Yet its spoken of in the present tense, as you quoted above, and then the condition is belief, right?
So I believe right now in Jesus, i got eternal life. (present tense in the verse).
I stop believing tomorrow, now i dont have eternal life.
^Was my life 'eternal' to begin with? You see that would work IF its like you said that we only get it after we die, but because the verse says HAVE (hath) eternal life. Not WILL have in the future, maybe.
You see my point there?
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