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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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GodsGrace101 said:
You speak of self-maintained salvation as if it's a sin and not what Jesus taught.
You speak of salvation as if it's guaranteed to you and it is NOT. It is INDEED based on your obedience to God after your initial salvation.

Please read Matthew 7:24-27 (this is how scripture is posted, BTW, something you refuse to do)
and answer these questions:
1. WHO did the building --- the person or Jesus?
2. What did the smart person do in verse 24?
3. Why did the house not fall? Because Jesus built it or because it was FOUNDED on the Rock?
4. What did the foolish man do? What is the sand? (maybe anything that is not the Rock)?
5. This house that was built on sand...what happened to it?

If Jesus is comparing to methods of building and HE IS THE ROCK and that is the smart man and the smart man is building UPON THE FOUNDATION of the Rock....The Rock itself is NOT building the house...

Then anything else upon which our faith/house is built is NOT THE ROCK.

Easy. No Greek necessary.


Mathew 7:24-27
The Two Foundations
24“Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock.
25“And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock.
26“Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.
27“The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell—and great was its fall.”
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False.....conflated truths, twisted contex, denial of perfect tense Greek verbs does not equal a correct message....forget it, you cafe blend Catholic dogma saves no one.....end if story....
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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GodsGrace101 said:
@dcontroversal doesn't like scripture...
It speaks against his personal beliefs that have nothing to do with mainline Christianity.
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You're a liar...I love the truth....and mainline Christianity has it all wrong...Dishonest people Fran have no weight when it comes to truth....formally banned members back pushing obedience to remain saved = deceit
 
GodsGrace101

GodsGrace101

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dcontroversal said:
False.....conflated truths, twisted contex, denial of perfect tense Greek verbs does not equal a correct message....forget it, you cafe blend Catholic dogma saves no one.....end if story....
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It'll be END OF STORY when you face God....
How about being HONEST just for once and face the music and dance....

Please exegete those verses...

Mathew 7:24-27
Thanks.
 
GodsGrace101

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dcontroversal said:
You're a liar...I love the truth....and mainline Christianity has it all wrong...Dishonest people Fran have no weight when it comes to truth....formally banned members back pushing obedience to remain saved = deceit
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Here we go again....

I'm dishonest
I'm a liar

I PUSH OBEDIENCE TO REMAIN SAVED!!!!

oH nO !!!!!
:eek:

Oh wait....that's right... in order to REMAIN SAVED ,,,we have to be DISOBEDIENT!!!

What bible are you reading anyway?
Get your facts straight.
END OF STORY.


Oh. And please address
Mathew 4:24-27 since you're sooooo good with context, verbiage, verb tenses and all that other stuff you love to mention...

BUT NEVER ADDRESS SCRIPTURE!


:sleep:
 
GodsGrace101

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UnderGrace said:
I thought you were all about the moral code, last time I looked it was a sin to lie.
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You learned well from @dcontroversal .

Again you make a comment and then RUN for the hills....

So tell me UG,,,
WHAT exactly did I lie about?

Oh, and BTW,,,because someone does not AGREE with you...
does not make them a LIAR.

You should learn this it would be easier to speak with you.
 
GodsGrace101

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UnderGrace said:
I thought you were all about the moral code, last time I looked it was a sin to lie.
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Why did you give me a thumbs down for post no. 92,505 ???

Is it not correct to ask someone to exegete a verse in the bible?
Isn't that what we're here for....to speak to each other about biblical matters?
 
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UnderGrace

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GodsGrace101 said:
You speak of salvation as if it's guaranteed to you and it is NOT. It is INDEED based on your obedience to God after your initial salvation.
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A sad, sad statement.

May God have mercy on you, you make God a liar, you put God in our debt for something He plainly tells is a gift.. Sad, truly sad.
 
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UnderGrace

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GodsGrace101 said:
You learned well from @dcontroversal .

Again you make a comment and then RUN for the hills....

So tell me UG,,,
WHAT exactly did I lie about?

Oh, and BTW,,,because someone does not AGREE with you...
does not make them a LIAR.

You should learn this it would be easier to speak with you.
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I have been a born again Christian for 35 years, I have been here since 2016 I think, please you have a non biblical narrative.
 
Lafftur

Lafftur

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GodsGrace101 said:
Here we go again....

I'm dishonest
I'm a liar

I PUSH OBEDIENCE TO REMAIN SAVED!!!!

oH nO !!!!!
:eek:

Oh wait....that's right... in order to REMAIN SAVED ,,,we have to be DISOBEDIENT!!!

What bible are you reading anyway?
Get your facts straight.
END OF STORY.


Oh. And please address
Mathew 4:24-27 since you're sooooo good with context, verbiage, verb tenses and all that other stuff you love to mention...

BUT NEVER ADDRESS SCRIPTURE!


:sleep:
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GG101,

There is no Matthew 4:26 or 27. I think you made a mistake when referring to the scriptures.....:unsure:
Matthew 4:24-25:

And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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GodsGrace101 said:
It'll be END OF STORY when you face God....
How about being HONEST just for once and face the music and dance....

Please exegete those verses...

Mathew 7:24-27
Thanks.
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you speak of honesty hahahhahahahaaha get your facts straight FRAN.....you were banned once amd now back in pretense peddling obedience....hahahha youbtake the cake for sure....I am not worried...I trust Jesus...he has saved me biblically by grace through faith......you on the other hand......bad day coming...!!!
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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#92,516
GodsGrace101 said:
Here we go again....

I'm dishonest
I'm a liar

I PUSH OBEDIENCE TO REMAIN SAVED!!!!

oH nO !!!!!
:eek:

Oh wait....that's right... in order to REMAIN SAVED ,,,we have to be DISOBEDIENT!!!

What bible are you reading anyway?
Get your facts straight.
END OF STORY.


Oh. And please address
Mathew 4:24-27 since you're sooooo good with context, verbiage, verb tenses and all that other stuff you love to mention...

BUT NEVER ADDRESS SCRIPTURE!


:sleep:
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No honesty.....at all....tell us all why you were banned the first time and how being disobedient while peddling obedience = saved?
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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GodsGrace101 said:
You learned well from @dcontroversal .

Again you make a comment and then RUN for the hills....

So tell me UG,,,
WHAT exactly did I lie about?

Oh, and BTW,,,because someone does not AGREE with you...
does not make them a LIAR.

You should learn this it would be easier to speak with you.
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You know good and well what you lied about unless you are delusional and or have no honesty or integrity.....we for sure know the last part is true.....!!
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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UnderGrace said:
I have been a born again Christian for 35 years, I have been here since 2016 I think, please you have a non biblical narrative.
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Just think....she has been here at least twice under different banners.....and was banned once we know of....I do not see how one can be banned, come back and peddle obedience while being disobedient......
 
TruthTalk

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GodsGrace101 said:
So tell me UG,,, WHAT exactly did I lie about?
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You deceived the authority of this Christian Forum; you were banned and returned to this forum against their rules. Everything you say should be brought into question because you lied about who you really are just so you could get your own way and return here after being banned.

Be reconciled to God and to this beautiful forum and then maybe people will believe you maybe.

Has anybody anybody told you what lying is? "Like not telling the truth."
 
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dcontroversal said:
Just think....she has been here at least twice under different banners.....and was banned once we know of....I do not see how one can be banned, come back and peddle obedience while being disobedient......
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Do as I say, not as I do.....classic
 
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