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was that you who were the one who tried to insult me for quoting scriptures before, a few weeks ago.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds/works of the law.....
and again the following is clear......only workers for and Cainologists reject it and or embellish faith
But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
and again the following is clear......only workers for and Cainologists reject it and or embellish faith
But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
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For the salvation losers and workers for.....
The following is a comparison between the bible and salvation losers......and make no mistake...this is exactly what they peddle and or how they butcher the word of God by their losable salvation....
Bible -->I will never leave thee or forsake thee
Salvation Losers ---->Jesus is a liar and will leave us and forsake us
Bible --->We are saved to the uttermost and kept by the power of God through faith
Salvation losers --->The power of God is weak and inept, we are not saved to the uttermost and GOD does not keep us
Bible -->Jesus begins, finishes and completes the work of faith in us
Salvation losers --->WE must maintain our faith because JESUS does not finish and complete the work of faith in us
Bible -->He that believes on the SON is having everlasting/eternal life
Salvation losers --->He that believes and MAINTAINS his belief on the SON is having temporal life based upon what he does or does not do
Bible -->Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without the deeds/works of the law
Salvation losers -->James out of context tells us we are justified by our works before God
Bible -->It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe
Salvation losers --->It pleased God by works, church membership, baptism, pew jumping, speaking in tongues, back flipping down the isle, saying 57 hail Mary's, taking the Lord's supper, keeping the sacraments and a dozen other religiously zealous man made efforts to save them
Bible -->NOTHING can separate us from the love of GOD
Salvation losers -->Numerous things can separate us from the love of GOD
Bible--->We are in the Son's hand, the Father's hand and NO AN can remove us from that position
Salvation losers -->The above is false, we can remove ourselves because God is weak and inept
Bible -->We are sealed unto the day of redemption
Salvation losers-->The seal of God can be broken because God is weak and inept
Bible --->Where sin abounds, grace abounds the more
Salvation losers--> We qualify, quantify sin and God's grace only covers those small sins when we mess up and for sure we have never lost it, but eternal security believers lose it because they believe they can live any way they want and live like the devil
Bible --->He that believes on the Son is not condemned
Salvation losers --> Believers are condemned all the time and returned to being goats after becoming sheep
Bible --> I will lose nothing, but raise it up the last day
Salvation losers -->God loses people all the time because he is too weak to keep them saved
Bible--> We are born again from above by INCORRUPTIBLE SEED
Salvation losers --> We are not born of incorruptible seed, because that seed can be corrupted and one die lost after being born again
Bible --> The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable
Salvation losers -->God's free GIFT of salvation can be revoked because GOD will break ALL the above promises and send one to hell after being saved
ETC.............I dare to say that salvation losers are false.....and what they peddle is not of GOD and as blasphemous as it comes......the above is a SMALL sample of scriptural promises that MUST BE DENIED, REJECTED and or SWEPT UNDER THE TABLE to peddle a dime store salvation that cannot be found in the bible and or a dime store salvation that devalues the work, promises and ministry of CHRIST!!!!!!!
The following is a comparison between the bible and salvation losers......and make no mistake...this is exactly what they peddle and or how they butcher the word of God by their losable salvation....
Bible -->I will never leave thee or forsake thee
Salvation Losers ---->Jesus is a liar and will leave us and forsake us
Bible --->We are saved to the uttermost and kept by the power of God through faith
Salvation losers --->The power of God is weak and inept, we are not saved to the uttermost and GOD does not keep us
Bible -->Jesus begins, finishes and completes the work of faith in us
Salvation losers --->WE must maintain our faith because JESUS does not finish and complete the work of faith in us
Bible -->He that believes on the SON is having everlasting/eternal life
Salvation losers --->He that believes and MAINTAINS his belief on the SON is having temporal life based upon what he does or does not do
Bible -->Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without the deeds/works of the law
Salvation losers -->James out of context tells us we are justified by our works before God
Bible -->It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe
Salvation losers --->It pleased God by works, church membership, baptism, pew jumping, speaking in tongues, back flipping down the isle, saying 57 hail Mary's, taking the Lord's supper, keeping the sacraments and a dozen other religiously zealous man made efforts to save them
Bible -->NOTHING can separate us from the love of GOD
Salvation losers -->Numerous things can separate us from the love of GOD
Bible--->We are in the Son's hand, the Father's hand and NO AN can remove us from that position
Salvation losers -->The above is false, we can remove ourselves because God is weak and inept
Bible -->We are sealed unto the day of redemption
Salvation losers-->The seal of God can be broken because God is weak and inept
Bible --->Where sin abounds, grace abounds the more
Salvation losers--> We qualify, quantify sin and God's grace only covers those small sins when we mess up and for sure we have never lost it, but eternal security believers lose it because they believe they can live any way they want and live like the devil
Bible --->He that believes on the Son is not condemned
Salvation losers --> Believers are condemned all the time and returned to being goats after becoming sheep
Bible --> I will lose nothing, but raise it up the last day
Salvation losers -->God loses people all the time because he is too weak to keep them saved
Bible--> We are born again from above by INCORRUPTIBLE SEED
Salvation losers --> We are not born of incorruptible seed, because that seed can be corrupted and one die lost after being born again
Bible --> The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable
Salvation losers -->God's free GIFT of salvation can be revoked because GOD will break ALL the above promises and send one to hell after being saved
ETC.............I dare to say that salvation losers are false.....and what they peddle is not of GOD and as blasphemous as it comes......the above is a SMALL sample of scriptural promises that MUST BE DENIED, REJECTED and or SWEPT UNDER THE TABLE to peddle a dime store salvation that cannot be found in the bible and or a dime store salvation that devalues the work, promises and ministry of CHRIST!!!!!!!
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More truth........
He that believes on the SON is NOT condemned <---no works mentioned
He that believes on the Son is having everlasting life <---no works mentioned
.....He that believes on the SON shall not perish but have everlasting life <-----No works mentioned
Of course workers for must embellish
He that believes on the SON is NOT condemned <---no works mentioned
He that believes on the Son is having everlasting life <---no works mentioned
.....He that believes on the SON shall not perish but have everlasting life <-----No works mentioned
Of course workers for must embellish
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I said John was not talking about two natures in 1 John 3 and you replied that "I didn't know what I was talking about" See post 101,655. Direct answer to my assertion that John was not talking about two natures in 1 John 3 was "pal, you don't know what you're talking about"
If I say 1 John 3 is not talking about two natures, and you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and then go on to argue about two natures, isn't that about the same thing as saying 1 John 3 is about two natures?
See, this is the problem. A lot of times your answers are out of context with what you are replying to. I'll say something, like 1 John 3 is not about two natures, and then you'll burst out with a "you don't know what your talking about". Then you'll say "I didn't say that."
If I say 1 John 3 is not talking about two natures, and you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and then go on to argue about two natures, isn't that about the same thing as saying 1 John 3 is about two natures?
See, this is the problem. A lot of times your answers are out of context with what you are replying to. I'll say something, like 1 John 3 is not about two natures, and then you'll burst out with a "you don't know what your talking about". Then you'll say "I didn't say that."
if you want to get technical about yes, but the actual definition of the word believe in the greek is to be persuaded of, to think to be true, to entrust.
so, the actual act of believing is a mental activity.
and, I borrowed nothing, my theology is very consistent .
saved by faith, then everything else is a separate conversation .
so, the actual act of believing is a mental activity.
and, I borrowed nothing, my theology is very consistent .
saved by faith, then everything else is a separate conversation .
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