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dcontroversal

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Just a thought. Maybe new members should be restricted from posting pics and videos until they have 100 posts. This will give some kind of idea of who the new people are we are dealing with.
I have said this numerous times.........
 

VCO

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Your choosing your way,

But i am tryimg to show you why i believe my way

The fact you will not even discuss it makes me wonder why your so afraid?

It could be why I was 29 and still did not understand the first thing about Born Again. I did not want to admit that the Church I grew up in, the Lutheran Church, had a Insufficient Doctrine of SALVATION. They had the false idea to say a sinners prayer, to willing Receive JESUS as LORD, was works righteous, and was to be AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS. They NEVER DID realize that You cannot say a sinners prayer, as a CONFESSION except by the HOLY SPIRIT IN YOU.

1 Corinthians 12:3 (HCSB)
3 Therefore I am informing you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is cursed,”
and no one can say,Jesus is Lord,” [as a confession] except by the Holy Spirit.

That particular Lutheran Church was extremely Denominationally Prejudice. When I changed Churches to a evangelical Bible Teaching Church, my Mom said, "So you are leaving thee Faith." When I said "Mom, there will be other denominations in Heaven." She actually said, "I don't know about that!" I am sure that some people in the Congregation, THOUGHT I WAS A HERTIC, because I Changed churches. In that Lutheran Church sermons were only about 10-15 minutes long. THAT WAS A STARVATION DIET, for my Exceeding Hungry young spirit. THAT IS THE MAIN REASON WHY I LEFT. I needed a Church where they spend about an hour expositing the WORD of GOD. But the decision to change Churches, was extremely difficult. That is because that last hurdle was an extremely high hurdle, I had to decide that I needed to leave my Mother's denomination.

That is what I suspect you are most likely dealing with, trying to share the Truth with Leastamongmany.
 

Leastamongmany

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Usa
The work of salvation was done at Calvary,Jesus paid the whole debt for every soul at His time and thereafter! Nobody,unless they have zero I.Q. believes we can earn Redemption! The walk after has to be maintained by the keeping of the word of God! If you do not keep His word,you sin;sin separates from God. The wages of sin is death,spiritual death! The only sure saying is God is Eternal,the Alpha,and Omega,the beginning and the end!
 

FollowHisSteps

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The work of salvation was done at Calvary,Jesus paid the whole debt for every soul at His time and thereafter! Nobody,unless they have zero I.Q. believes we can earn Redemption! The walk after has to be maintained by the keeping of the word of God! If you do not keep His word,you sin;sin separates from God. The wages of sin is death,spiritual death! The only sure saying is God is Eternal,the Alpha,and Omega,the beginning and the end!
Once you know the level of love and life in Jesus, why would you return to evil deeds. Just remember this, evil is death, not a nice small thing, but death.

We are free in Christ to worship and serve him. But many are happy to accept there position yet do nothing or even know that there hearts can lift in worship of Him.

So friends, he has saved you confess this. You will begin to feel the reality within, praise the Lord
 

OneOfHis

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Yet to be proven WHO is born again and walking in God's way! He who PERSEVERES TO THE END SHALL BE SAVED!

Proven to who?
Me?
You?
I suppose...



Proof to God?
He needs no proof.
He knows His own.

Proof to Eg?
No, we can know we have eternal life.
 

fredoheaven

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The work of salvation was done at Calvary,Jesus paid the whole debt for every soul at His time and thereafter! Nobody,unless they have zero I.Q. believes we can earn Redemption! The walk after has to be maintained by the keeping of the word of God! If you do not keep His word,you sin;sin separates from God. The wages of sin is death,spiritual death! The only sure saying is God is Eternal,the Alpha,and Omega,the beginning and the end!
His words also is eternal.
Hellfire is also eternal.
Also there is a sin not unto death...

1 John 5:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
 

mailmandan

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Proven to who?
Me?
You?
I suppose...
Proof to God?
He needs no proof.
He knows His own.

Proof to Eg?
No, we can know we have eternal life.
1 John 5:11 - And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God. :)
 

Leastamongmany

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1 John 4:20" If a man say, I love God,and hateth his brother,he is a liar; for He that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
 

VCO

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The work of salvation was done at Calvary,Jesus paid the whole debt for every soul at His time and thereafter! Nobody,unless they have zero I.Q. believes we can earn Redemption! The walk after has to be maintained by the keeping of the word of God! If you do not keep His word,you sin;sin separates from God. The wages of sin is death,spiritual death! The only sure saying is God is Eternal,the Alpha,and Omega,the beginning and the end!

You cannot KEEP HIS WORD PERFECTLY.

The Purpose of the LAW was not a LAW that You can KEEP, but to drive us to DESPERATION, to where we CLING to JESUS.

Romans 3:20 (ESV)
20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

For example:

1 Peter 2:13-17 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king. [if you are an American that means you do not speak evil about President Trump.]


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One mile over the speed limit - YOU SIN.


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Litter equals - YOU SIN.



Illegal Parking - YOU SIN.



Failure to pick up dog poop - YOU SIN.



There are looks of other ordinances of man, that I could post here, but you should get the picture.

TWO more:

To qualify for SINLESSNESS, you must obey this LAW.

Matthew 19:22-26 (HCSB)
22 When the young man heard that command, he went away grieving, because he had many possessions.
23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “I assure you: It will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven!
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”
25 When the disciples heard this, they were utterly astonished and asked,Then who can be saved?”
26 But Jesus looked at them and said, With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Ecclesiastes 7:20 (NKJV)
20 For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.
 

mailmandan

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Believers love because we have (past tense) passed from death to life. 1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. The love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us. (Romans 5:5)
 

OneOfHis

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1 John 5:11 - And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God. :)
Amen bro.

Praise God.

Without His promises how could we ever have assurance.
 
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The work of salvation was done at Calvary,Jesus paid the whole debt for every soul at His time and thereafter! Nobody,unless they have zero I.Q. believes we can earn Redemption! The walk after has to be maintained by the keeping of the word of God! If you do not keep His word,you sin;sin separates from God. The wages of sin is death,spiritual death! The only sure saying is God is Eternal,the Alpha,and Omega,the beginning and the end!
Talk about contradiction

1. You cant earn redemption
2. But if you do not do this, you will not be redeemed

How can people honestly look and not see what they ar saying?
 

fredoheaven

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1 John 4:20" If a man say, I love God,and hateth his brother,he is a liar; for He that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
Love One Another

(John 13:31-35; Romans 12:9-13)



11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 12Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

13Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. 14We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. 15Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. 16Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.17But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 18My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 19And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. 20For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.21Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. 22And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

1 Cor.13:13 And now abideth faith,hope,charity,these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Charity is love in action. Telling something the truth in love is good. Little chilren let us not love in WORD, neither in tongue. Quoting passages from the bible about love doesn't do anything. Sharing the love of God, the keeping hand of God when you placed your trust in Him will do. God loves you!