Not By Works

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PennEd

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Your response makes the Scripture True -

‘Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,

And their sins be forgiven them.’ ”
- Mark 4:12
That's funny, because every time I see one of your responses I believe YOU make this Scripture true:
2 Peter 2:4-11 New King James Version (NKJV)
Doom of False Teachers
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to [a]hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— 9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of [b]dignitaries, 11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.
 

Lightskin

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I am not your son pal.......do not address me as such.....and make no mistake, you are about as anti truth as they come.....wrap your head around that truth.....get right before you crack your knees before GOD <--HIS NAME IS JESUS
That “son” nonsense is an attempt to elevate himself above you. Psychology 101.

I’d respect him more if he just came out with his best Foghorn Leghorn, “listen to me, boy.”
 
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Nothing wrong with that. But remember that a sandwich aint gonna help no one in hell. So we need to preach the Gospel as well

That is often overlooked by the 'social gospel' advocates, not saying you have, but many have indeed.
Teaching is what I do, hence the bible studies that I publish, and the house I have established in Medellin, as a place to teach the local population. Not all of us are called to teach, but we are all called to do good works.
 

PennEd

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El Shaddai did. :)

And man as well, as I have been serving as such in a couple churches for over 15 years now.
Tell us how exactly El Shaddai told you that you were an elder and a teacher. I CERTAINLY believe that men may have puffed you up with those titles, but I wanna know how God did. In a dream? In a fortune cookie? A vision perhaps?
 

Lightskin

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"Cease listening to instruction, my son,
And you will stray from the words of knowledge."

- Prov 19:27

I speak as an elder, and a teacher of God's Word.

If you were my son, you wouldn't be allowed to disrespect others as you do. And that's a fact.
He’s not disrespecting you; he’s sharing the same passion Jesus displayed by turning over the tables in the temple. That’s not disrespect, it’s righteous indignation.
 

Lightskin

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Your response makes the Scripture True -

‘Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,

And their sins be forgiven them.’ ”
- Mark 4:12
Do you deny Jesus is part of the Trinity.
I suggest you look very intently at the Scripture you just shared.
 

Lightskin

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Teaching is what I do, hence the bible studies that I publish, and the house I have established in Medellin, as a place to teach the local population. Not all of us are called to teach, but we are all called to do good works.
If you teach that we are saved by grace through faith then I’ll donate to your ministry.
 
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If you teach that we are saved by grace through faith then I’ll donate to your ministry.
Of course I teach we are saved by favor through belief. And then through that belief, we must then begin to yield good fruit, which is good works, otherwise the belief is dead, hence, "belief without works is dead". We are to be rich in good works, helping the poor, helping orphans, helping widows, helping the elderly, doing good whenever possible.
 

fredoheaven

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Thanks for your reply. However, as I've shared several times here, and been teaching at churches and Bible studies for years... Repentance, at least according to the Scripture, requires a "change of action", a "turning from sin."

So many have been taught only the modern watered down English definition of the word "repent", and miss the full meaning of this necessary aspect of our salvation.

Knowing even a little about the Greek and Hebrew; and having close older friends who were actually born and raised in Greece and Israel, who know the languages; and finally having the Holy Spirit to guide me into all Truth; I have come to understand very clearly what "repentance" means. :)

Did a pretty in-depth series on Repentance last year, in which we set aside tradition and carnal understanding, and look at what God means when He says "Repent." - Repentance (part 3)

:)
No, repentance doesn't require something to be called repentance but it results is a change of action, that a big difference. I guess you have not yet done a big deal using scriptures about the definition as you are going in circles. I just thought you did an in-depth study so you could share your thoughts here but taking me into your video wouldn't do to me. :cool:
 

Lightskin

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Of course I teach we are saved by favor through belief. And then through that belief, we must then begin to yield good fruit, which is good works, otherwise the belief is dead, hence, "belief without works is dead". We are to be rich in good works, helping the poor, helping orphans, helping widows, helping the elderly, doing good whenever possible.
Several times now you have used the phrase “saved by favor” rather than saved by grace through faith. Is there a difference?
 

fredoheaven

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Knowing even a little about the Greek and Hebrew; and having close older friends who were actually born and raised in Greece and Israel, who know the languages; and finally having the Holy Spirit to guide me into all Truth; I have come to understand very clearly what "repentance" means. :)

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I ask, how old are your friends? If your friends are of ages 300BC to 330AD then most likely, they would understand biblical Greek:).