Not By Works
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Ok my conclusion to be followed.. lols The start of this debate It is by convivtion we know we are saved.
If ya aint got convivtion ya aint got the spirit...
iy youve got the spirit you can not be lost...
Why is this ......................
No one can come to the son unless youve been handed over by the father...
If ya aint got convivtion ya aint got the spirit...
iy youve got the spirit you can not be lost...Why is this ......................
No one can come to the son unless youve been handed over by the father...
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Ok my conclusion to be followed.. lols The start of this debate It is by convivtion we know we are saved.
If ya aint got convivtion ya aint got the spirit... iy youve got the spirit you can not be lost...
Why is this ......................
No one can come to the son unless youve been handed over by the father...
If ya aint got convivtion ya aint got the spirit...
iy youve got the spirit you can not be lost...Why is this ......................
No one can come to the son unless youve been handed over by the father...
If you dont feel the need to follow God and do good works for His glory...,,you might not be an adopted child of God
However we become children of God because of what Jesus did and His love and mercy.
We don't earn or deserve it.
..that should make us humble and willing to forgive others even when they don't deserve it.
.it helps us love others even if they hate us.
Cool....I know last summer toward fall was bush hogging a 50 acre field with weeds, grass and brush about 7 to 9 feet tall and seen more than one praying mantis like 6 to 8 inches long.....was surprised at the size....first time I had seen some that big....must be Fukushima Daiichi radiation HAHAHHAHHAHAH
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I get your first part makes sence to me but works not keeping us saved im struggling with.. ok i get they dont get us salvation directly i get that... works should not be about doing thm for reward i get that too..
What i dont get is the bible referring to repentance as a works.. and something we must do or be be condemed..
I know you dont see repentance as a works and so do some leading teachers on tbn network... alll tho i do think this one is a bit ignorant sometimes..
perry stone...
I like sometimes where he preaches from in jeruselem etc but he talks really fast and leaves not understanding him..
my other complaint is i find him speaking to me like im stupid sometime....
I dont know why he believes repentance is not a works but he does..
Maybe repentance is an act of faith .?
What i dont get is the bible referring to repentance as a works.. and something we must do or be be condemed..
I know you dont see repentance as a works and so do some leading teachers on tbn network... alll tho i do think this one is a bit ignorant sometimes..
I like sometimes where he preaches from in jeruselem etc but he talks really fast and leaves not understanding him..
my other complaint is i find him speaking to me like im stupid sometime....
I dont know why he believes repentance is not a works but he does..
Maybe repentance is an act of faith .?
I think repentance is an act of faith. An example of a work is bringing soup to a neighbor when they are sick. Good for the neighbor. (Good work)
But why are you bringing the soup to the neighbor? is it so he sees you as good, or so that he might owe you something, or is it out of genuine love and a concern for the neighbors current condition that requires nothing in return?
Neither one sends you to heaven or condemns you to hell. But it is a good work none the less.
One might be of God, the others are definitely of man. (The difference between living in the spirit or the flesh).
You see a non believer could bring soup to a neighbor out of love and expect nothing in return also, but does a non believer have Christ, no, and won't end up in heaven as a result of that.
And a saved person ( you, me and most on CC ) could bring the soup wanting something in return (sin/flesh). Yet they/we know Christ and are still going to heaven.
It's all about whether we believe then know Christ through accepting forgiveness of sins and then receiving the free gift of the Holy Spirit then the new life begins and He works in and through us
I went off a bit there Jimbo, sorry. I can get carried away.