Not By Works
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I was crap at algebra and math at school.
Beleive it or not I'm qualified as an accountant and now work as a Finance Director.
When I was expelled from school the head of year told me I would amount to nothing and would be a bum because I didn't work hard.
He had no idea what was going on behind the closed doors of my life and trust me it was shocking.
So I did a business study course and found that I clicked with accountancy.
I worked hard and harder. The reason being is because I wanted to prove him wrong and me right.
I used to think to myself "I am going back to see him and tell him "Yes I'm a bum but a professional bum who earns 3 times more than you"
I never did it but I realised that I was actually working to prove myself, that I'm not actually a bum and I will show you.
Ring any bells?
I actually thank God because even with that attitude he has used my skills to help quite a few beleivers whom have been in a dire financial mess and I've never asked for a penny.
Im not telling anyone this to make me look good (trust me I know my heart and nothing is good about it)
What I'm trying to say is that my focus was wrong, I will work to prove it to you.
If work to prove then I am trying to prove something "It's all about what I have done to prove myself"
Not sure I've made my point but gonna click post quick reply and hope I make some sense.
Beleive it or not I'm qualified as an accountant and now work as a Finance Director.
When I was expelled from school the head of year told me I would amount to nothing and would be a bum because I didn't work hard.
He had no idea what was going on behind the closed doors of my life and trust me it was shocking.
So I did a business study course and found that I clicked with accountancy.
I worked hard and harder. The reason being is because I wanted to prove him wrong and me right.
I used to think to myself "I am going back to see him and tell him "Yes I'm a bum but a professional bum who earns 3 times more than you"
I never did it but I realised that I was actually working to prove myself, that I'm not actually a bum and I will show you.
Ring any bells?
I actually thank God because even with that attitude he has used my skills to help quite a few beleivers whom have been in a dire financial mess and I've never asked for a penny.
Im not telling anyone this to make me look good (trust me I know my heart and nothing is good about it)
What I'm trying to say is that my focus was wrong, I will work to prove it to you.
If work to prove then I am trying to prove something "It's all about what I have done to prove myself"
Not sure I've made my point but gonna click post quick reply and hope I make some sense.
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1 John 5: [SUP]11 [/SUP]And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. [SUP]12 [/SUP]He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. [SUP]13 [/SUP]These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life,[SUP][d][/SUP] and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
Do we listen to you, who appears to lack faith, or listen to the apostle John, Who proclaims that the knowledge that we HAVE (present tense) Eternal life as a possession, is the means to continue to remain in faith?
I think I will chose John.. I pray that does not offend you. if it does. please forgive me.
Do we listen to you, who appears to lack faith, or listen to the apostle John, Who proclaims that the knowledge that we HAVE (present tense) Eternal life as a possession, is the means to continue to remain in faith?
I think I will chose John.. I pray that does not offend you. if it does. please forgive me.
The funny thing (sic) is that NO one pays attention to the fact that we all say a believer will bear fruit or have at least 1 work which proves faith.......We both teach that and yet they accuse us of saying we do not have to do anything, live anyway we want, sin like the el diablo...the bible is clear...
SAVED unto works
NOT
SAVED by works
it is by faith and faith alone period.......
SAVED unto works
NOT
SAVED by works
it is by faith and faith alone period.......
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I think the problem is to many people do not understand what it means to "be like Jesus"
I remember one time someone asked, what will heaven be like. the pastor said it will be like being in church every day all day.. That turned many people off. Because again, Most people think church is supposed to be this staged "worship" service, and not a body of people having a relationship with God first, and each other..
I remember one time someone asked, what will heaven be like. the pastor said it will be like being in church every day all day.. That turned many people off. Because again, Most people think church is supposed to be this staged "worship" service, and not a body of people having a relationship with God first, and each other..