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Got to say EG, this is so slow and round about, you have lost me on the point of this chain of questions.
Have you ever tried to teach 3 year olds? They would already be out the classroom and outside before
you finished the first point, lol
Maybe its because you know so much and I know and understand so little.
Have you ever tried to teach 3 year olds? They would already be out the classroom and outside before
you finished the first point, lol
Maybe its because you know so much and I know and understand so little.
Luke 18:10-14
Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
The Pharisee stood and prayed about himself like this: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people: extortionists, unrighteous people, adulterers – or even like this tax collector.
I fast twice a week; I give a tenth of everything I get.’
The tax collector, however, stood far off and would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, be merciful to me, sinner that I am!’
I tell you that this man went down to his home justified rather than the Pharisee. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.
So you have passed from death to life because you asked God to be merciful to you, sinner that you are.
Jesus and the rest do not matter.
Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
The Pharisee stood and prayed about himself like this: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people: extortionists, unrighteous people, adulterers – or even like this tax collector.
I fast twice a week; I give a tenth of everything I get.’
The tax collector, however, stood far off and would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, be merciful to me, sinner that I am!’
I tell you that this man went down to his home justified rather than the Pharisee. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.
So you have passed from death to life because you asked God to be merciful to you, sinner that you are.
Jesus and the rest do not matter.
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Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
As for me believing Jesus is GOD HIMSELF? Jesus Himself wouldn't even make THAT claim!
Nah! There's only ONE jesus who thinks THAT!:
2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he AS God sitteth in the temple of God, SHEWING himself that he IS God.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man (wisdom of man) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
As for me believing Jesus is GOD HIMSELF? Jesus Himself wouldn't even make THAT claim!
Nah! There's only ONE jesus who thinks THAT!:
2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he AS God sitteth in the temple of God, SHEWING himself that he IS God.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man (wisdom of man) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
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I was just asking @NayborBear because of some of what he writes and his tone... but he is not familiar with them.
I see you are.. not a good bunch... and they have lots of influence as mainline Christian falls apart.
I see you are.. not a good bunch... and they have lots of influence as mainline Christian falls apart.
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Here if you go to his about page there is a link there.
https://christianchat.com/members/rebuildjesusschurch.291533/#about
https://christianchat.com/members/rebuildjesusschurch.291533/#about
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It’s not that I do not trust you. Its just that the quotes you gave in the post I responded to taken by themselves and not in context could be possibly interpreted differently than you are interpreting them. So I want to see the context
After all, for example, it is written that without holiness ( which is a fruit of grace) no man will see the Lord. And the scriptures also say if we claim to abide in Him, we ought to walk as He walked.
These are all post/after regen of course 🙂
After all, for example, it is written that without holiness ( which is a fruit of grace) no man will see the Lord. And the scriptures also say if we claim to abide in Him, we ought to walk as He walked.
These are all post/after regen of course 🙂
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The above reminded me of a bungee jump and the guys saying, just jump, nothing else is required.
Now it is true you jump and trust, but everything else around keeps you safe and is safety checked and put in place etc.
You could describe it all in detail each thing and how it works and who does what or just say jump.
So much confusion is caused because in context we call out, and the Lord fills in the rest over time.
And His promises are met 100% in His people.
Now it is true you jump and trust, but everything else around keeps you safe and is safety checked and put in place etc.
You could describe it all in detail each thing and how it works and who does what or just say jump.
So much confusion is caused because in context we call out, and the Lord fills in the rest over time.
And His promises are met 100% in His people.